Don't really think I've been overwhelmingly positive about roundbox so idk what you mean by that. I also notice that you seem to be singling me out for allegedly bringing up a lynch out of nowhere, but completely ignore how roundbox pretty much did the same thing with me (with a dash of OMGUS to boot), exemplified by this quote:
Originally posted by roundbox
as for hunting wolves
curry hasn't done much in terms of reads fluctuation or affirmation, his only real concern today was a few quips for night kills and a posting of a reads list which didn't really have any development over the course of the day nor did it really diverge with anything from a previous day
this wasn't out of nowhere, you just missed the post
Originally posted by Curry and Rice
PART 1:
Looking back, I think roundbox not voting to save FFA was because he thought that he would probably be lynched anyway the next day and didn't want it to be obvious that he was trying to save his partner. In light of the funny wagon and flip, he looks even worse from that, and his comments/reactions at the beginning of the day after that didn't help either (calling the game a "dumpster fire" and complaining about how the "game is proceeding in SK's favour" reads like venting after his partner died).
why would I not vote celery d1 to save my "partner"
you can check me on this, but historically my d0s go one of two paths:
1. I'm really confident in one person that nobody else gives even slight indication to
2. I have no idea what the hell I'm doing
(you can guess which one this game falls into)
Originally posted by Curry and Rice
If funny's a wolf, we know who to look at. Otherwise, I think this gives you slight human points. No way you'd want to stop the lead vote when there's a chance it could turn to you.
don't forget you made this read about me as well
also, I'm really confused why you're reading into the dumpster fire comment as alignment indicative
all the PRs were dying left and right
and yes, the last living wolf is going to openly communicate their frustration that an SK was gonna win the game
(no, not me)
Originally posted by the sun fan
I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer
I still like my tinfoil thoughts on celery
zoshi COULD be serial killing since his spiel with FFA simply makes him a non-wolf partner
still not gonna explore that avenue until later
did this get zoshi killed
lmfao
Originally posted by the sun fan
I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer
Also doing some quick skimming through the last couple pages of that game of yours you linked led to these gems:
Originally posted by roundbox
wow LMFAO this was a typo, he's towny fmpov if you read my post
I don't want to lynch him today
I don't fucking know what to do right now tbh
Originally posted by roundbox
sorry haku I think you've bee doing a good job but I still don't like your slot
townreads on everyone else is really fucking my head right now
I don't think you could get much closer to that type of behavior right now if you tried. Starting from the end, I went back to Page 70 and you seem pretty similar between these two games.
I think Cel is the least likely to be a mafia, between ffa pushing Cel as mafia throughout the day and not choosing to help Cel get on the subject of stuff besides manti by asking Cel questions, raeko's defense of Cel but unwillingness to fully side with Cel, and Cel starting the votes against ffa at the very end. This is one of the only things I feel very confident on. I will not vote for him today.
The main reason I have to think that olimar is not mafia, is the fact that ffa consistently pushed olimar as a serial killer suspect. Because serial killer reads are something that mafia can give genuine thoughts on and show that they are solving, I see it is much more likely ffa believed this, rather than tried to make somebody he knew was mafia and on his team look bad in this convoluted way. The only points toward him being a mafia, I feel, is raeko saying she felt kind of scared of voting him on D1, and possibly the fact that he kept defending ffa. I do not actually think that as the serial killer, he would talk about it the way that he has to us - which I think is the best lead I have on anybody, in terms of not being a serial killer. While I would feel very annoyed to lose to the person who is obviously trying the least out of everyone, my best guess at this point remains that he is a town. The raeko comment is kind of haunting me, to the point that I wish I had not even noticed it, because I don't feel that that one comment should hold more weight than how ffa acted through all of D0 (and seemed like he would have kept with if he had lived).
ffa had an awkward/silly push on roundbox from early on D0 that he did not keep up with, as I have said. rb specifically drew attention to ffa's read on raeko being for a silly reason. rb was around at the end of D0. rb had made a negative comment toward Cel earlier in the day that might help him defend trying to make more of a push on Cel to save ffa (something to do with the Manti stuff); however, he commented on Cel's stronger anger toward Manti, in a pretty neutral way, right at the end of the day when it may have been advantageous to him as a mafia in saving ffa, for him to speak more negatively of Cel. He chose not to vote anybody, but did say he would vote for Cel if somebody else switched to Cel, to avoid a kitb. He seemed very much a deer in the headlights for reasons I do not fully get.
roundb not voting for Curry (or even olimar) on D1 while he and funny, who he was townleaning, could be hanged confuses me a lot. Unless I am not understanding the vote timings and such, it seems like he is overemphasizing this woe-is-me narrative of "I am forced to kill funny to save myself" while not actually trying very hard to make an alternative possible. mellon on D1 voted funnygirl over roundb after a short conversation with him that is shading him about him being quiet here and there. I can kind of see raeko doing that just because funnygirl was susing raeko, though, and not necessarily because rb was mafia.
In summary, I feel the way the dead mafia talked toward him was pretty awkward - they both poked at him but did not follow through with it in any meaningful way (and with raeko actually helping to save him on D1 from dying). What looks good, is that he called out ffa and raeko on D0 as a connection, and that it seemed like he could have made Cel look worse to save ffa on that day as well. But probably the most important thing I would need to understand to feel better about him, is more about what his mindset has been at the ends of the Days, in retrospect.
I am getting to Curry next but I will post this now to give others the chance to respond...I think I have been writing and thinking this over, for over an hour at this point anyway.
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