TWG CLXXVII-The Resident Evil Game(mini version)

[inDheart]

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I am really frustrated that the sheriff said that they were ok with being hanged. I do not get that and I feel like it is a let down. My best guess is that she checked on ind and got that he was a STARS member, which does not really mean much if the serial killer picked to be safe from that. (The other mafia is already safe from it.)

I am wondering if raeko could use her power and also kill. Because the other mafia could not kill; it had to be raeko.

Also I feel bad for being so wrong in raeko at first. I think I gave her too much credit when she was mostly being very quiet. Curry voting for her yesterday is a good sign for him, and I believe at least one person called out ffa's lean on raeko being weird, so I will look for that.

I don't think people really commented on my ideas on why olimar may not be SK or mafia. (They were at the start of a big post.) Do you think I am wrong in them?

i don't think she checked me, because she posted more overt reads on other people when i read back. if she did, i think she'd have a way of conveying that info but i don't remember any earlier d1 posts about me from her

second thing is probably something to PM blind about

speaking of ffa's leans being weird, his clearing of xel was also a suspicious read he had to me (he said it was for xel's one-liners), but i dunno if he would do the exact same thing with both his partners. there's a reads list he gives where he goes over both of these things iirc

i would just have to reread your thoughts because i apparently forgot them - do wish he'd respond to qs from yesterday, and he also left thread really close on the lynch and didn't actually vote. what do you think of his agreement with you on roundbox?

[inDheart]

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also i think roundbox is at least not mafia now?

@roundbox, i guess i'm interested in what post or two you liked from raeko

[Zoshi]

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Just a note, I’ve not caught up on anything from the update, I’ve just been subbed into a mafia championships game and that’ll take the majority of my twg time now but I’ll still be participating here obviously, just expect activity to be less.

I want to have a look and see if funny could have hinted at any of their results, but I’ll be doing that when I finish work in like 30mins

[roundbox]

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I am really frustrated that the sheriff said that they were ok with being hanged. I do not get that and I feel like it is a let down. My best guess is that she checked on ind and got that he was a STARS member, which does not really mean much if the serial killer picked to be safe from that. (The other mafia is already safe from it.)

this tbh

I do not think you explained why you would not do a kitb despite suspecting Cel more on d0 at all. Just saying you like me and my vote and then ignoring that, will not fly with me.

most of it is just personal preference, I've never been an advocate for KITB because of the result being so wishy-washy if town is flipped from it. KITB remove a little bit of accountability for some peoples' votes

[roundbox]

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also i think roundbox is at least not mafia now?

@roundbox, i guess i'm interested in what post or two you liked from raeko

if you want to go hindsight mode, her going under the radar at EOD and then popping up with a few posts toward the end was howling hard
this was hindsight though and I did not notice this at all while playing

[inDheart]

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if you want to go hindsight mode, her going under the radar at EOD and then popping up with a few posts toward the end was howling hard
this was hindsight though and I did not notice this at all while playing

i meant earlier because i thought you said in your reads you found some posts that were not-wolfy. was curious about those

[star-crossed]

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So, I will reiterate and elaborate on my thoughts on Olimar. I think these are the main relevant quotes.

Sorry to break up all these reads, but how does this "The Organization" (third party) work? Do they win with the wolves or humans; what is their win condition?

Olimar is a super transparent player, it likely means he's genuinely confused about the setup

Most nsmers don't know about pr hunting or how to initiate it

But given how some of his questions can be answered by reading I think he's third party trying to mask his questions about the role specifically as more general setup questions

It checks out

Also, what happens when Clair finds Chris? Do they win independently?

I'm just trying to decipher the game into lingo that I'm more familiar with:
-3 wolves (master, Birkin, roleblocker)
-10 humans (seer, guardian, Clair & Chris (special wincons?), confirmed, and 5 vanillas)
-1 third party (wasn't sure if it was a fool or not, or how they win really)

Yeah, please don't. I have a job and cannot post during school hours. The game says no ootc, which bion means no ootc, and for someone who just made a fuss at me in discord about doing that several games ago, you should know better. >:/

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Despite my little interactions here, reading through the thread Noc reads pretty town for me right now, based on past interactions with him (both as wolf partners and as humans).

Like I said, olimar tends to be transparent. But he's also pretty smart and I think he could've figured out the answers to those questions

So I guess I'd say they were questions he had but he rushed to ask them to cover up instead of reading more thoroughly

my only 2 scum reads are celery and olimar which is disappointing but I'm guessing the rest of scum are hidden in inactives

I'm going for celery over olimar because wolves take priority over third party imo

I don't think olimar is mafia because:

1. I think the mafia in general are motivated to try to look for the serial killer during the day because it is a way of looking like they are helping the town, without having to lie or look bad for susing town players. So I think in most cases, if a mafia is arguing that someone is the serial killer, they probably actually believe it. Calling another mafia the serial killer, could be a good way to make it seem like you are not both mafia, but it is also more convoluted than just calling them suspicious in general, and still draws attention to that person in a way that is probably not good for the mafia.
2. To me when flash flash is describing olimar as "transparent" and giving information about the type of person he thinks olimar is, I feel like flash flash was being genuine. Since most of us do not really know olimar, I do not think flash flash trying to introduce him as, basically, smarter than he looks, is a good strategy if they are both mafias. If flash flash is worried that olimar being a "transparent" person means he will make a mistake as a mafia, I think the tactic of calling him a serial killer specifically, is a strange way to go about it.
3. When olimar said "the game says no ootc, which bion means no ootc, and for someone who just made a fuss at me in discord about doing that several games ago, you should know better. >:/", I think that was something that would not be smart to bring up if they are both mafia. It makes it obvious that flashflash may not be being genuine by trying to ping olimar, since he "should know better." olimar still says flash flash seems town later in the same message, but still.

I don't think olimar is the serial killer because:

1. It is my understanding that whoever the serial killer was had to tell blind before anybody could post, about what special power they should get. I think if it was not clear to them already how to win from their role message, that's the best time and place to be asking, as opposed to asking everybody.
2. If olimar was pretending to be confused about how to win, it is still probably not a good strategy, because everyone will be associating you with the third party in their mind, because you're talking about it so much.

[star-crossed]

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i don't think she checked me, because she posted more overt reads on other people when i read back. if she did, i think she'd have a way of conveying that info but i don't remember any earlier d1 posts about me from her

second thing is probably something to PM blind about

speaking of ffa's leans being weird, his clearing of xel was also a suspicious read he had to me (he said it was for xel's one-liners), but i dunno if he would do the exact same thing with both his partners. there's a reads list he gives where he goes over both of these things iirc

i would just have to reread your thoughts because i apparently forgot them - do wish he'd respond to qs from yesterday, and he also left thread really close on the lynch and didn't actually vote.

The reason I thought it could be you was that, from funny's response to the "I wouldn't kill active people" conversation, she did not seem to be paying that much attention to what was going on... Since you were the main person she mentioned suspecting besides flash flash on D0, I thought she likely would have wanted to see about you, because of that. If she thought you were innocent, that could be why she moved onto the "theory" about Cel/raeko rather than keeping pursuing her lead on her not liking your D1 reads. I thought it may be why she wanted to know others' thoughts on you as her last post, too. But I am just speculating. If not you, maybe it was curry she looked into; or maybe she got blocked (I will ask about if that is possible).

what do you think of his agreement with you on roundbox?

When I read it I was kind of flattered. It kind of annoyed me that a lot of people basically said that I seem town but did not respond too much to my actual ideas.

[star-crossed]

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speaking of ffa's leans being weird, his clearing of xel was also a suspicious read he had to me (he said it was for xel's one-liners), but i dunno if he would do the exact same thing with both his partners. there's a reads list he gives where he goes over both of these things iirc

There is the reads list where he has a lot more townreads than scum ones, so I don't think it is weird for him to like both of his partners. I kind of wonder if he accidentally said you were scummy because he knows you are. I am more suspicious of that and of the "town" for xel, which as you said was pretty random. Notably, later on ffa says his only real scumreads were Cel and olimar, so I think that is a good sign for Cel.

"I'm a dastardly wolf and I will be much less suspicious if I say I have TWO town reads rather than just one! Mwahahaha!"

yeah no

To me this sounds like something flashflash really believed. Plus I think it is more risky in a game with a serial killer to stake your pride/life/etc. on somebody being town, if you know they are not.

what are your thoughts on a team of funny/raeko/celery

too soon?

I think it is more likely he would only say one mafia here than both, so that is also good for Cel. And it is kind of a sign that flash flash wasn't thinking of his reads on Xel & raeko in the same way, because he clearly claimed to feel more strongly about the Xel one.

[Zoshi]

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so i think mellon was a vigi shot, i dont think sk would have killed gun. so what happened to sk kill

[Celirra]

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so i think mellon was a vigi shot, i dont think sk would have killed gun. so what happened to sk kill

Why do you think Mellon was vigi'd? I agree gun wouldn't be sk target yet

[Celirra]

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Plus vigi might still be saving shot
Or maybe vigi is one of the inactives and just didn't shoot cause they're afk(?)

[Celirra]

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@ Star re: olimar; I think I agree with you here at least about him not being sk, and I see the argument for him not being wolf but gonna need to mull it over

The issue I have though is that his posting hasn't been towny; I hope if he is town he took the night phase to try to figure out what's going on and to have some good stuff for us to go off of

[Celirra]

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Also goodluck with championship game zoshi but pls don't forget about us if you can help it

[Zoshi]

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my issue with olimar is that when questioned on his actions and people relating it to sk behaviour multiple times, he kind of disappeared and didn't do anything... and has continued as such unfortunately.

well if gun was the wolfing, then that means mellon was sk/vigi. I mean, I guess sk could be wolf hunting, but I just felt mellon was very lynchable. She was my second after funny.