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  • inDheart
    Picker @ JAX2
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2011
    • 505

    #2341
    Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

    Originally posted by mellonxcollie
    but.... he does....? and he's said this before countless times?


    who can?
    while i get manti's point about this post, i figure a bunch of us are inured to hearing the same types of excuses from haku by now and that's why this post happened

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    • roundbox
      fhqwhgads
      • Feb 2005
      • 2085

      #2342
      Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      I do see what you guys are saying, especially since he's dead and he was a wolf so maybe he was blue hunting.

      But I still see it as potential coaching since people are wary of reads lists that focus on inactive players more than wolfy actions (see: Shado's dumb vote on me). If he coaches a tiny bit in thread, they both gain town credit by people assuming any coaching would go on in wolf chat
      mm, I see what you're saying but I still think it's blue hunting so I'll have to disagree with the conclusion but not the premise

      Originally posted by inDheart
      bothered by this because obviously you've read the setup but it's like you know the 3p didn't choose wolf
      if anyone was ever considering the world of ind/haku as w/w, I don't think this is something a partner would bus someone over
      seems a bit too revealing

      Originally posted by Charu
      Why of course, holy glowing towny player. How dare us spread "junk" in your presence as it only hampers your scumhunting.

      So sorry, really am, apologies.
      was it ind who was talking about charu's snarkiness on d0? I think sunfan mentioned it too but I think this is the point in time where Charu has officially crossed into snarky territory
      what does it mean to you now?

      Originally posted by LightManticorex2
      If here's anything super pertinent feel free to line it up for me and I'll respond to it. I'm starting to feel like a lot of the points I'm arguing are getting rehashed and people are just ignoring it or reiterating their points while not accepting my responses..
      fwiw the only thing I feel like you've contributed other than argument defense is an iso on Charu
      I don't think you responded to the AA iso either

      oh hey he mentions it like 3 posts after this one
      whattya know

      Originally posted by AragakiAyase
      also wat @ the "same as manti" part

      her saying she's going to be gone has nothing to do with me asking charu what he thinks of her because that's independent of her reason for not being there
      it just didn't feel like you fully acknowledged it
      it's not important though

      Originally posted by LightManticorex2
      Backpack is spending a lot of time at the grocery store
      is your vote going to work its way into a convenient spot like Haku last phase?
      dare I say
      confirmation bias

      Originally posted by AragakiAyase
      doesn't change the fact that he's probably town
      ya

      Originally posted by inDheart
      where i'm at board wise so i can stop talking about dead people:

      haku - probably town from game approach, missed connections with shado, late d0 wagon that shado voted on to keep off his "townreads"
      yeti - interactions between her and shado don't read partnery to me
      AA - i do think his promise to post like a robot is getting across to me now in the sense of while he's present, it feels like he has less of a personal stake in the game, but his d0 stuff that i can remember is still pretty good, like i liked when he was talking to sunfan, and d1 as he sorts people more recently also seems good. subject to reread that i still keep meaning to do but i did like his post too where he just tried to answer my concerns before i look
      charu - honestly didn't give him enough of a focus today to see, i skipped a lot of his posts vs. manti because it seemed like they were just talking past each other
      rdbx - is catching up, so basically in progress
      raeko - also didn't focus in on much but did see her being consistent across the day, want to see what that becomes
      blind - i assume he's doing his thing whatever that may be
      manti - on reread of haku's iso he looked better to me in the accountability sense since he had a more established opinion closer to EOD that it seemed just didn't catch on. still being ok with either xel or blind dying reminds me of his "I am fine with both of these lynches and like the data that's being generated" disconnected-feeling post, and stating a preference for one over the other but then just voting outside anyway is just a thing that i wonder why it exists really

      edh is apparently happening at 11:30, which is annoying (i was pushing for after-EOD times) so ~100% attention will only be for the next 90ish minutes and then i might be stuck to following along
      all the reads below AA are like, really underdeveloped
      I really don't know who you're going to vote for unless you already have a vote
      if so then I don't follow


      questions for:
      indheart
      manti

      time to crystallize my thoughts into a reads post, coming right up!
      Originally posted by the sun fan
      I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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      • inDheart
        Picker @ JAX2
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Aug 2011
        • 505

        #2343
        Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

        Originally posted by mellonxcollie
        tbh I don't feel strongly about anyone at this moment. here is bare bones readlist subject to change at any time!!!:

        haku- town
        AA- town
        TWG Ike- town
        Ind- slight town
        Blind- mildly sketchy, but hard to tell because blind
        Xel- see above
        kirkfan- mildly sketchy, but need to see more posts in general

        Everyone else: null, or hard for me to read one way or the other (Charu, sunfan)
        is the "see above" pointing at your blind read?

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        • AragakiAyase
          Waifus
          • Apr 2015
          • 961

          #2344
          Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

          mellon whereeeeee

          at least a reads list

          pikakirby123 reincarnated





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          • TWG Ike
            FFR Player
            • Sep 2014
            • 8

            #2345
            Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

            agree with roundbox that most of InD's reads are meh

            the top 3 seem to be actual TRs and then the rest...?

            it's just kinda statements about ppl in the game's activity levels and you can't really deduce what he reads any of them as. which i guess could mean he has a fat pile o nulls

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            • mellonxcollie
              Sectional Moderator
              Sectional Moderator
              • Dec 2006
              • 1301

              #2346
              Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

              Originally posted by inDheart
              is the "see above" pointing at your blind read?
              yes it was
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              • inDheart
                Picker @ JAX2
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2011
                • 505

                #2347
                Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

                Originally posted by roundbox
                was it ind who was talking about charu's snarkiness on d0? I think sunfan mentioned it too but I think this is the point in time where Charu has officially crossed into snarky territory
                what does it mean to you now?
                yes

                i think that post is actually less snarky than some of his d0 stuff. he thinks those manti posts are obnoxious and that's how he's showing it. more of an annoyed vibe here

                Originally posted by roundbox
                all the reads below AA are like, really underdeveloped
                I really don't know who you're going to vote for unless you already have a vote
                if so then I don't follow
                neither do i and it's kind of a problem

                i haven't voted in general because i'm skeeved out by 4 antitown nightmare fuel rushes happening
                i think i would be voting manti because for as often as he explains his EOD it like, doesn't really assuage my feelings about it, but that's bad. he's also been playing so much defense that he didn't get to do much of his own today, i think, so hard to tell what he's thinking in detail (he did post saying active people probably town, for the general)
                i didn't really intend the list to be ordered but i could see myself voting any of the bottom 4 depending on what happens/what i see in reading

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                • inDheart
                  Picker @ JAX2
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 505

                  #2348
                  Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

                  Originally posted by TWG Ike
                  agree with roundbox that most of InD's reads are meh

                  the top 3 seem to be actual TRs and then the rest...?

                  it's just kinda statements about ppl in the game's activity levels and you can't really deduce what he reads any of them as. which i guess could mean he has a fat pile o nulls
                  yeahhhh

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                  • inDheart
                    Picker @ JAX2
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 505

                    #2349
                    Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

                    if i had like yesterday at my computer and made several better life decisions i probably would have been able to do the things i mention in the post in a reasonable amount of time

                    instead i'm stuck doing them now

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                    • inDheart
                      Picker @ JAX2
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 505

                      #2350
                      Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

                      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
                      here I'll pay attention to you

                      why is this different than backpack doing the same thing like 5 posts before ind started
                      liked this question, still do

                      from her list she has me at slight town and dbp at null, so it seems natural to ask in that position

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                      • roundbox
                        fhqwhgads
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 2085

                        #2351
                        Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

                        town
                        yeti - in addition to consistent mindmelds and agreements on points, I feel like the blue hunting that was very open and obvious from shado would be too much for wolf theater. I don't understand what problems people have with her, ind being uncomfortable is weird since he's never actually played in a game with her, and instead was observing.

                        dabackpack - backpack is too fucking emotional this game to be wolfing, his angry reactions feel genuine and his frustration of being unnoticed makes it look like a town who is getting drowned by a bunch of bullshit

                        blind - blind has sounded like blind this game, which means he's not being coached. the big selling point for his town game is his push on yeti, and the fact that he probably would have picked an easier lynch if he was a wolf
                        the role claim is fucked too
                        he's doing everything his town self does EXCEPT FOR SELF VOTING (thank you btw)

                        town by not being shady looking
                        AA - haven't seen anything out of him that has screamed anti-town, so I feel like this is a read that was earned by not looking like shit
                        this happened in the hydra game and I never ended up scumreading you but I feel like that's far into tinfoil territory this game
                        isos on ind and manti feel good too

                        town lean
                        raeko - I haven't spent a lot of time reading raeko's posts terribly closely, but there's nothing that seems too odd about her thoughts. she just seems disconnected this game, fishing for interactions but only AA and like one other person has bit
                        it doesn't feel like she's wolfing, but I have no solid evidence that she's full town
                        her frustration at getting 0 posts out on wifi felt like genuine frustration (which I feel like she wouldn't care too much as a wolf, she would just come back to it later)
                        shado's weak push on her also helps

                        nully
                        haku - Haku's day 0 was pretty weak, he was frozen at EOD. his comment on manti today was weird but I think his response to me was fine, fwiw.
                        he needs to elaborate on the ind wolf game, he has the burden of proof to show a commonality between the two games

                        scummy
                        Charu - I want ind to comment on his snarkiness (maybe he has while I've been writing this), but I feel like charu gets a bit overly snarky when he's dead confident about their alignment or at least his pursuit in their lynch
                        this coupled with my odd feeling on him at the beginning of the game remains a real noggin' scratcher

                        ind - has felt underwhelming, there's a chance his reads are just him not finding anything cohesive this game but I feel like his point on yeti is a cop-out, it just felt like a "it matches my reads list" vote

                        high scummy
                        manti - hasn't been doing much this phase, made an iso against Charu, mostly looking at his xel vote but not much else at what he's done
                        rest has been defending himself and kind of spinning in circles
                        him parking his intent to vote on backpack and it coming true feels like he could be confirmation biasing the shit out of this
                        Originally posted by the sun fan
                        I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                        • inDheart
                          Picker @ JAX2
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 505

                          #2352
                          Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

                          Originally posted by mellonxcollie
                          for the record I tried to make a vote, but I hardly read anything and just random.org'd it at like 6 PM from a Mcdonalds. It landed on AA. which would have been LMAO but FFR doesn't like shitty Mcdonalds wifi apparently and it kept eating my post. The thread loaded fine I just couldn't post for some reason. So anyway that would have been my vote if y'all want to analyze that but it was just randomed (I also kept myself in to be selected for true randomness and chaos)
                          think this paragraph is towny combined with the previous bit about promising to try to get online

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                          • roundbox
                            fhqwhgads
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 2085

                            #2353
                            Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!



                            just kidding, reposting this because nobody reacted to it and it made me sad
                            Originally posted by the sun fan
                            I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                            • inDheart
                              Picker @ JAX2
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 505

                              #2354
                              Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

                              with that yeti read and some of his post responses i think roundbox is trying to passive aggressively roast my nuts over having yeti as a wolf ever

                              tbh when i read that shado post i wasn't reading it with roles in mind, it seemed like he could have made a sick nasty catch that the list was essentially "sort by post count", plus i think it also technically had too many names for the eternalisk thing anyway but i forget

                              somewhere in my iso it hits me because someone else says it

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                              • inDheart
                                Picker @ JAX2
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 505

                                #2355
                                Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

                                Originally posted by roundbox
                                town
                                yeti - in addition to consistent mindmelds and agreements on points, I feel like the blue hunting that was very open and obvious from shado would be too much for wolf theater. I don't understand what problems people have with her, ind being uncomfortable is weird since he's never actually played in a game with her, and instead was observing.
                                this is basically no fair and you know it, you're not fucking entitled to discredit a read for saying i have 0 meta

                                Originally posted by roundbox
                                scummy
                                Charu - I want ind to comment on his snarkiness (maybe he has while I've been writing this), but I feel like charu gets a bit overly snarky when he's dead confident about their alignment or at least his pursuit in their lynch
                                this coupled with my odd feeling on him at the beginning of the game remains a real noggin' scratcher
                                interdasting, i don't associate snarkiness with him interacting specifically with his scumreads but i assume you mean it for conf bias reasons

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