Re: TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread
I confused which weekend it is; gonna leave for DnD in half an hour or so; won't be active tonight.
I feel bad because I haven't really provided as much this phase as I would have liked and I'm not going to be able to.
I think raeko, like Charu said, is almost always a wolf here. raeko
Haku, you told me that there are some accusations I should just ignore. I think that that's really, really dumb. Like, one of the dumbest things a player can do. I have been defensive, it is because I have had to be imo. The reason you have not seen me play like this is because I have not had to be defensive before with you in a game when I am town, I think. I have been trying to reason with you for a really long time now, and you're shooting down everything I'm saying. You cannot complain about people not listening to you when you are not listening to the people who are being reasonable when responding to you.
You have accused me of being not inquisitive (as has raeko). I have probably put more work into this game than anyone other than you, Freezin might rival that but that's not really the point here. I think this part of your accusation is just factually incorrect. I have reread the thread multiple times and explained my progression when asked. I have considered multiple worlds in many scenarios. I think the accusation that I have not been asking questions/trying to solve the game just is wrong, which I guess I've already said.
In the event that raeko is town (god forbid) and she is lynched today, you NEED to reevaluate your world tomorrow/this night phase. Charu is always town imo and I know I am. You might be right on lito. If she flips town, wolves WILL leave you alive if you are town because you will probably lose the game for town tomorrow by voting Charu/me.
If raeko is a wolf, and she gets lynched here, which is what should happen imo, I expect you to reevaluate, so that's fine.
If I get mislynched here, you ARE NOT ALLOWED to swap Yoshl/roundbox in for my slot in your reads and just say "well I was wrong on sunfan but my world still hasn't been broken." I could see you doing this easily. You have not reevaluted for a long, long time now, and if you don't do that coming into tomorrow if a town gets lynched here, I do not see how town wins this game.
If a town is lynched and you do not reevaluate your reads, town is going to lose.
If you cannot reevaluate on me, which honestly it feels like its gotten to that point, I think Charu has done extremely townie things as well. He has never been this serious as a wolf in his life. He probably never will be. Him voting himself and ragequitting the thread after interacting with you happens 0% of the time as a wolf. Please look at what he has done if you cannot look at what I have done and see that it is townie.
I understand that it looks like I am giving the blindreper treatment to lito here. He should be a top suspect if we go into tomorrow and it is lylo imo. I wanted to lynch raeko first and foremost yesterday, I was forced to lynch inDheart to save a townread of mine. You have accused me of not evaluating other worlds, and regardless of whether or not I am guilty of this (which I don't think I am but w/e), you are guilty of this.
The fact that Charu and I cannot be town together in your eyes is extremely worrisome. The fact that lito and I cannot be town together in your eyes, or even w/t, is extremely worrisome.
I understand that you have picked a world, but you've been in that world a long, long time, and there is a real chance that I get lynched here and you lose the game for town as a result.
I think you are town. I agree with you that you probably never get killed by the wolves for a multitude of reasons. You need to reevaluate your reads. The onus is not on Charu, lito and myself to break your world. The onus is on you to prove that that is the world.
I would not normally respond to someone posting in the manner that you have been anywhere near as much as I have been, but I feel something emotional here. I feel like your frustration about not being listened to is genuine. wabby mentioned talking about your play in the postgame, which is something I intend to do at length. If you do not listen to me now, I ask that you listen to me then.
Its been a hard game for you emotionally, especially if I am right and you are town. Getting shit on by people isn't fun. I've been there. But don't let the emotion associated with that lose the game for town.
Parting here, I might stick around for a bit longer depending on how long Pete showers for.
I am town.
I think Charu/Haku/Freezin/wabby should never be lynched here. I think the only person that has any wolf equity is freezin but he would have to be having the best wolf game I've ever seen him play by a long shot. I don't think he has it in him after rolling scum last game, I really don't. Honestly I think town needs to pick between raeko/myself today.
I think roundbox has been the most townie outside of that. Probably never gets lynched here anyways.
I think lito/yoshl shouldn't be lynched today because of the choice town has, I think they both have potential to be scum, yoshl moreso than lito because of overall gameplay. I can see Yoshl dreading the wolf slog here pretty easily. I really wish I could have expanded on this more today.
I have pretty much already talked about why I think raeko is a wolf. If I had to guess a team right now it would be one of lito/yoshl leaning towards yoshl, raeko and roundbox. I do not feel great about that team, but its what I would guess.
Will be here for a few more minutes. Will try to get away from the session towards EOD if I can.
I confused which weekend it is; gonna leave for DnD in half an hour or so; won't be active tonight.
I feel bad because I haven't really provided as much this phase as I would have liked and I'm not going to be able to.
I think raeko, like Charu said, is almost always a wolf here. raeko
Haku, you told me that there are some accusations I should just ignore. I think that that's really, really dumb. Like, one of the dumbest things a player can do. I have been defensive, it is because I have had to be imo. The reason you have not seen me play like this is because I have not had to be defensive before with you in a game when I am town, I think. I have been trying to reason with you for a really long time now, and you're shooting down everything I'm saying. You cannot complain about people not listening to you when you are not listening to the people who are being reasonable when responding to you.
You have accused me of being not inquisitive (as has raeko). I have probably put more work into this game than anyone other than you, Freezin might rival that but that's not really the point here. I think this part of your accusation is just factually incorrect. I have reread the thread multiple times and explained my progression when asked. I have considered multiple worlds in many scenarios. I think the accusation that I have not been asking questions/trying to solve the game just is wrong, which I guess I've already said.
In the event that raeko is town (god forbid) and she is lynched today, you NEED to reevaluate your world tomorrow/this night phase. Charu is always town imo and I know I am. You might be right on lito. If she flips town, wolves WILL leave you alive if you are town because you will probably lose the game for town tomorrow by voting Charu/me.
If raeko is a wolf, and she gets lynched here, which is what should happen imo, I expect you to reevaluate, so that's fine.
If I get mislynched here, you ARE NOT ALLOWED to swap Yoshl/roundbox in for my slot in your reads and just say "well I was wrong on sunfan but my world still hasn't been broken." I could see you doing this easily. You have not reevaluted for a long, long time now, and if you don't do that coming into tomorrow if a town gets lynched here, I do not see how town wins this game.
If a town is lynched and you do not reevaluate your reads, town is going to lose.
If you cannot reevaluate on me, which honestly it feels like its gotten to that point, I think Charu has done extremely townie things as well. He has never been this serious as a wolf in his life. He probably never will be. Him voting himself and ragequitting the thread after interacting with you happens 0% of the time as a wolf. Please look at what he has done if you cannot look at what I have done and see that it is townie.
I understand that it looks like I am giving the blindreper treatment to lito here. He should be a top suspect if we go into tomorrow and it is lylo imo. I wanted to lynch raeko first and foremost yesterday, I was forced to lynch inDheart to save a townread of mine. You have accused me of not evaluating other worlds, and regardless of whether or not I am guilty of this (which I don't think I am but w/e), you are guilty of this.
The fact that Charu and I cannot be town together in your eyes is extremely worrisome. The fact that lito and I cannot be town together in your eyes, or even w/t, is extremely worrisome.
I understand that you have picked a world, but you've been in that world a long, long time, and there is a real chance that I get lynched here and you lose the game for town as a result.
I think you are town. I agree with you that you probably never get killed by the wolves for a multitude of reasons. You need to reevaluate your reads. The onus is not on Charu, lito and myself to break your world. The onus is on you to prove that that is the world.
I would not normally respond to someone posting in the manner that you have been anywhere near as much as I have been, but I feel something emotional here. I feel like your frustration about not being listened to is genuine. wabby mentioned talking about your play in the postgame, which is something I intend to do at length. If you do not listen to me now, I ask that you listen to me then.
Its been a hard game for you emotionally, especially if I am right and you are town. Getting shit on by people isn't fun. I've been there. But don't let the emotion associated with that lose the game for town.
Parting here, I might stick around for a bit longer depending on how long Pete showers for.
I am town.
I think Charu/Haku/Freezin/wabby should never be lynched here. I think the only person that has any wolf equity is freezin but he would have to be having the best wolf game I've ever seen him play by a long shot. I don't think he has it in him after rolling scum last game, I really don't. Honestly I think town needs to pick between raeko/myself today.
I think roundbox has been the most townie outside of that. Probably never gets lynched here anyways.
I think lito/yoshl shouldn't be lynched today because of the choice town has, I think they both have potential to be scum, yoshl moreso than lito because of overall gameplay. I can see Yoshl dreading the wolf slog here pretty easily. I really wish I could have expanded on this more today.
I have pretty much already talked about why I think raeko is a wolf. If I had to guess a team right now it would be one of lito/yoshl leaning towards yoshl, raeko and roundbox. I do not feel great about that team, but its what I would guess.
Will be here for a few more minutes. Will try to get away from the session towards EOD if I can.
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