TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

[choof]

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i could do it if its actually bothering you

it doesn't bother me but I'm afraid to admit just how much time I've spent staring at it while I was making those wall posts

[choof]

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tl;dr: imo freezin is PR

yeah can we not blue hunt right now, thanks
litodude

[FreezinIce]

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You included a reference to a game and some specifics, but you're also saying it's similar to what roundbox is saying.

Thus

Is not your own thought.

nope not doing this dude try again

now make a case thats actually original since you seem to value it so much

[choof]

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I don't know why you're doing what you're doing but you could have easily presented that post as "freezin is prolly town here check these posts"

this isn't a matrix6, we don't know what roles we have and there's really no way to determine the setup unless we have hard evidence

even if an innocent child gets killed, we don't know what the other two prs are

so let's not go this route

[FreezinIce]

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lol lito

dude

why would you even do this

[Litodude]

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tl;dr: imo suns is wolf


current thoughts

suns/yoshl/charu/choof+UTR are my top wolves, which unfortunately are the most active talkers with the most coherent trains of thought. although freezin and haku are idiots, i think they’re town idiots



wow sunfan trying to steal credit for my choof townread, and charu sheeping onto that this is bullshit

good to see that choof rolled town
welcome back

yeah ok my first post on choof was more of a "welcome back nice to see you can type angrily still" but yeah
choof is town lock it in

i’m suspicious of the above banter between suns/yoshl/choof because choof was ‘towncleared’ by my most suspect for a good bussing, though i will say choof’s post here is human:



you don't get to make bad posts, tryhard posts, and try to cop-out by saying "lol it's just me being crazy." that doesn't cut it bub. yeah this is a game and you are free to play the game your way but this game is ultimately about winning and what you are doing, if you actually are town, is playing against the team's modus operandi. you are objectively a detriment, and if you continue this play style, you will always be a detriment to which ever team you are placed on. you will be a detriment to the town; townies WILL lynch you because you are scummy. you will be a detriment to the wolves; townies will lynch you because you are scummy. I'm not sure what kind of illusions of grandeur you have going on up in the attic but I can assure you that whatever they are, they will not pan out like you want them to.

that’s actually level-headed reasoning

choof effort posts after that though, imo, and earlier ‘town read’ bussing by yoshl/suns, make me think they’re the wolves and are still currently my strongest ‘reads’.

this is making me think Haku is just crumbing from the pressure as a wolf here tbh
I'm not going to vote him but that is really not a good reaction and I don't really see this as a normal Haku response given that Charu/Grad/Yoshl were all going to vote for him at the start of this phase

railing on haku here is stupid he’s a shit player move on guy

two different takes are really neat there, thanks
that's a good point, Jake

saying irl names on a forum is equivalent to your white boss putting a hand on your shoulder saying, ‘look, x let me be honest’ when they’re lying



I think null is the correct place to put charu based on those posts yeah
inDheart for the point Jake made

this was weak as fuck

consistently trying to win my favor in the multitude of posts that address me doesn't sit with me well (go read suns' posts)

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if i had to say ‘leaning’ once in my twg career it would be on charu. if i replace charu with shadow wolfe gameplay style it’s almost lock step: highly active, and contributing to discussion, but i often glaze over the posts and feel like nothing of value was lost or gained. I am never comfortable if i can't firmly state whether or not i think someone is human/wolf because there's too much to test.

gradient is a question mark and i appreciate the more recent posts that were level-headed but skipped over all the posts that were antagonistic toward freezin. i sensed frustration in his posts, which could be suspect, but this is where my gut feeling states VT because it was tonally more legitimate than not. gradient i never played with so i can’t read, but past performance isn’t indicative of current and future ROI, so i’m judging everything based only on contributions ITT, which have screamed human af to me.

yoshl has avoided most of my subtle accusations, and i had earlier pinned the haku anger as possibly feigned; retrospectively, it could be the same as gradient+freezin, so i will again pause this line of thinking and figure out a better approach moving forward.

indheart is also a q. he has facilitated conversation by with posts that ask for clarification on other’s assessment, but IRT anything substantial i probably skipped over it because there was too much to read sorry. (as i finish writing this i want to place him in UTR category. and again, i’m never comfortable if i can’t firmly state whether or not a person is human or a wolf)

i can’t read on anyone else that’s UTR, but this is my best attempt:

i have nothing new to say about light knight other than a comment on the explanation he gave: it’s understandable, as he and i approached that thread around the same time and i also said, ‘holy fuck what the fuck with all these damn posts’ but i don’t want to discount the earlier lurking.

raeko is kind of a q, originally suspect, but posted before i woke up earlier in the day so i couldn’t continue that line of thought for UTR stuff. raeko always posts enigmatically and i can’t make a clear read

tokzic is shitposting his way out of this phase, save a vote on suns that doesn’t seem to be serious. if i take it into a hypothetical scenario in which he just leaves it there throughout day nearing eod and quantifiably put his vote there to make it suns(2+1(me)) freezin(3) then maybe there would be something fishy about that. regardless, the shitposting is annoying as fuck

there’s always a raeko+tokzic dynamic between games so i’m unsure if that’s just because of a long standing friendship or wolf


freezin thoughts stated above

haiku is dumb af shitter posts

i will take into consideration that suns mentioned haku wrote that post pre-game and reread the thread to reassess my verdict on his humanness, but i really would prefer not to because reading his posts are a fucking eyesore, and also i prefer not to take advice from someone who i think is a wolf



introspectively i might be biased in judging players more strongly toward wolf correlated to the amount they post, but again, i don’t want to ignore my first suspicions equally for inactive and feigned-inactive players, as wolves in a non-MW game would often try to make themselves as inconspicuous as possible.

[Charu]

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@Charu

Can you address Sunfan for you bussing me because it cannot be true based on my own flip so, I'm assuming it's 100% wrong from your perspective as well.

That doesn't solve your slot, but at the very least, it should make you go "why is this happening".

Okay, are you actually a wolf?

There's no way you can know it's 100% for me. Not even assuming, you can't assume that at all.

...

But to answer your question, he knows I bus when I see a partner flub really really bad (I've expressed this outside games constantly). I'm guessing he's showing that you and me can't be partners? I'm actually not sure what he was trying to say in that post of his to be honest.

[choof]

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i'm gonna ctrl+f "original" and if I have more than 10 hits including this post ur'e all gay

[FreezinIce]

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now my secret plan to partially get scumread by people to ensure i wont die in the night is scrapped DAMN

[choof]

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i’m suspicious of the above banter between suns/yoshl/choof because choof was ‘towncleared’ by my most suspect for a good bussing, though i will say choof’s post here is human

I'm gonna just go ahead and say that you've never played with me and my wolf and town games are so significantly different

sunfan has a fucking soulcrushingly good read on my wolf game, I don't think I can count the number of times I've been killed in live twg and in forum twg because of sunfan's read on me. it's fucking bananas

[Litodude]

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not including rbx until he's done with his shit

[Charu]

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that’s an open invitation to answer the question to everyone else: did u read the link and know IC chooses when to out themselves, or is this semi-‘insider’ knowledge that i’ve deduced, that accurately allows me to confirm freezin’s role?

Honestly, yeah, I didn't read that the IC could choose in this setup.

But don't take dumb tells to heart. People have abused that prior games.

[choof]

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fun fact: I tried doing the ctrl+f "orioginal" thing and it parsed all of the quotes because they say "originally posted by" lmfao

[choof]

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I got 58 hits everyone in this game is gay

[Hakulyte]

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Okay, are you actually a wolf?

There's no way you can know it's 100% for me. Not even assuming, you can't assume that at all.

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But to answer your question, he knows I bus when I see a partner flub really really bad (I've expressed this outside games constantly). I'm guessing he's showing that you and me can't be partners? I'm actually not sure what he was trying to say in that post of his to be honest.

Bussing involves 2 wolves. I know that we're either W/T or T/T. lvl1 logic here.
My assumption is based on my own flip, not yours. I know 100% my own role.
It doesn't matter if you don't believe me, but that makes me able to stay that I know we're not W/W.