TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[thesunfan]

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ya missed a few colors there bud but otherwise thanks for doing the lord's work (trademark)

[Prophylaxis]

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Questions I am asking myself:

1. Is there scum on the Witch wagon Yesterday? If so, who is it? What about Shado's alignment?

2. We /know/ for a fact that EoD1 was basically a feasting ground for the wolves - town/town/town wagons. Therefore, scum in {roundbox (67), thesunfan (260), XelNya, TWG Jade Harley (77), Hakulyte (272)} is /incredibly/ likely. Just, who is town in that grouping and who is scum?

3. Haku is either the scum on the sunfan wagon or the sunfan wagon is composed of all townies, which maybe makes sunfan scum?

3. Ditto with Jade. MML is either scum or wagon is composed of all townies?

Food for thought here. I have never tried wagon analysis on this site so I have no idea how good it is, but meh.

I'm kind of at {Xel/Jade/????} here solely because Jade looks like scum from wagon analysis.

[Prophylaxis]

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ya missed a few colors there bud but otherwise thanks for doing the lord's work (trademark)

What are your thoughts? I'm especially interested to hear what you think of the town/town/town wagons D1 (obviously you guys don't know I'm town but yeah).

I wish I could edit those colors in, lol.

[Prophylaxis]

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I really want to say scumteam is Xel/Jade/xx(MML, sunfan? Proph??), but one of Xel's posts really threw me off on this

Shado's view of the gamestate feels similar to mine.

I dunno. I really want to trust AA especially given that he flipped town. But some of Shado's posts remind me of myself when I get pressured at times. ??

If I could have like a random cop check on any player I'd check Shado since if I know his alignment I think I could solve the game, but we're in my/lylo now.

[thesunfan]

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god my wagon looks terribly townie LOL

[thesunfan]

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always me, too

[thesunfan]

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gonna play some civ 5 I'll do the wagon shit later

[Prophylaxis]

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Thinking about it again I really think that Jade is just scum in all worlds?

The Witch "re-evaluation" EoD, looking back, feels incredibly opportunistic. It was like, early game, "hey everyone's townreading Witch so I will too!" and then, at EoD2, "I'm going to just start scumreading Witch". Lo and behold, Witch flips vig. I dunno, it reads and feels quite agenda-y to me rather than an organic sequence of thoughts. Like, I'm not super super quick to re-evaluate on my townreads but the way Jade did it doesn't reflect well on them, IMO.

Not to mention they're one of the SUSPICIOUS SIX (someone come up with a better name for this please) at EoD1.

My only concern about this is that I haven't really found anything /explicitly/ scummy from that slot. I dinged them about asking questions that have already been asked on Day 1, but they voted, and their responses to me last Night feel.. decent. It's just that I have a fair number of townreads and assuming that my view of the gamestate is at least halfway correct then PoE brings them down to the bottom.

Just spewing thoughts here but yeah.

[Prophylaxis]

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Gonna go attend a club meeting but will be checking back at various points throughout the day.

If people could actually comment on the wagon stuff and my thoughts that'd be great.

[inDheart]

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shado (1) - mml
not voting - xel, proph, wab, shado, jade, sunfan, haku

[Wineandbread]

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I want to say sunfan's scum, but I have no idea what he's doing if he is. We're at MYLO. I feel like scumfan could just push for a lynch on me and the game would be over, so his posts today confuse me and make me hesitate in reading him.
I think Xel is almost always a wolf here. I'd vote him now, but I'd feel a lot more comfortable voting at EoD to prevent a wolfjack of my wagon if I'm wrong.

It's da long con

How about the last wolf?

[Wineandbread]

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Oh nvm answered later

Ugh I'm gonna multiquote starting now but I actually hate the multiquote system on here

[Wineandbread]

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This is the post.
Why would he include MML if they're partners?
Who's rabbit? If it's jade, why does he include jade?!
If this is to intentionally distance himself, it's really well done because it legitimately confuses me

Maybe he doesn't think MML is his partner?
Weren't you also scumreading Jade?

You're going to arrive at the following conclusion because you're gonna read me wrong

you are gonna vote me

and this I know

despite all AA said

despite shado's response to me floping being absolutely awful, there's no town game where he gives up like that

you will see my lack of immense participation, and the lengthy "fluff" content of my one good post, you will say I sheeped to seem town

this is the conclusion you will come to

because you won't sheep. I went with AA's read because I actually looking into Shado's posts myself. I neglected to answer any questions of witch because I was afraid of fucking it up

witch softed it so slightly, I caught it and flopped on who I thought the vigi was (originally thought it was Haku actually) it was in their d1 posting, I quoted it in my larger post

There was no reason to cfd at EoD

there was no reason for AA to doubt himself

there's one answer I feel is correct

and if I have to explain that answer, you are lost

By answer you're referring to Shado? You mentioned only entertaining Shado or MML. Do you think Shado/MML is W/W or W/T?

Also


Whenever someone points out themselves that they've done their town tell it makes me feel like shoving a bottle of whisky up my ass so I can experience literally any other feeling then the pure anger that masive wolf slips like this induce upon me.


Maybe I'm too triggered over Haku's bullshit


I'll review it tomorrow after I wake up to find that even if someone else votes Shado here we still haven't instalost yet.

People often do refer to their own play when they want to imply they're town though, maybe not so explicitly.

Do you really think Haku/sunfan/Shado is the wolf team?

[Wineandbread]

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Catching up and rereading, but to be honest, the Witch vig flip kind of destroyed my motivation to play the game since I think there is a solid chance we lose the game now unless we lynch scum right after the other.

It's just. I have NO IDEA who the scum are. There are still three wolves alive and aside from Xel no one stands out to me as explicitly wolfy.

Like, given that Witch flipped town and AA flipped town, I don't think my view of the gamestate is terribly off, but we have had NO WOLF FLIPS SO FAR and I /need/ those in order to actually scumhunt well. This is terribly frustrating because, wagon analysis is shot, and interaction analysis is shot - there goes 2/3rds of my way to analyze the gamestate, leaving only behavioral analysis which I am not very good at.

Blegh.

Time to roll the dice yolo
In all seriousness, at this point in the game I think it is better to have confidence in a read and be wrong than show uncertainty. So to that point, do you think Xel is the best lynch today?

Do you think Xel/Shado could be partners? I know you are mostly reading Shado as town, but just humor me.

I get where you're coming from, and the short and serious answer is that Hakulyte is the exception to a lot of rules in my book

ook

4 -- Witch of Certainty -- MixMasterLar (36), TWG Jade Harley (84), AragakiAyase (185), ShadoWolfe (175)
3 -- ShadoWolfe -- thesunfan (142), XelNya (28), Wineandbread (15)
2 -- XelNya -- Prophylaxis (41), Witch of Certainty (65)
1 -- unvote -- Hakulyte (199)

shado (4) - sunfan, aa, xel, wab
xel (3) - proph, shado, woc
woc (2) - mml, jade
unvote - haku

4 -- DaBackpack -- roundbox (67), thesunfan (260), XelNya (94), AragakiAyase (263)
3 -- Witch of Certainty -- TWG Jade Harley (77), mellonxcollie (76), Hakulyte (272)
2 -- Prophylaxis -- Charu (313), ShadoWolfe (248)
2 -- TWG Jade Harley -- Prophylaxis (75), Witch of Certainty (94)
1 -- thesunfan -- MixMasterLar (131)
1 -- Charu -- DaBackpack (128)

4 -- thesunfan -- AragakiAyase (209), Charu (234), Hakulyte (240), Prophylaxis (47)
1 -- mellonxcollie -- ShadoWolfe (217)
1 -- XelNya -- TWG Jade Harley (53)
1 -- Charu -- DaBackpack (128)
1 -- DaBackpack -- thesunfan (171)
3 -- unvote -- Witch of Certainty (68), MixMasterLar (123), XelNya (86)
2 -- not voting -- mellonxcollie (61), roundbox (44)

4 -- TWG Jade Harley -- MixMasterLar (67), Charu (147), AragakiAyase (44), Prophylaxis (14)
1 -- XelNya -- thesunfan (50)
1 -- Prophylaxis -- ShadoWolfe (79)
1 -- Hakulyte -- Hakulyte (56)
6 -- not voting -- DaBackpack (77), mellonxcollie (9), roundbox (33), TWG Jade Harley (18), Witch of Certainty (19), XelNya (22)

Fixed the remaining colors
ofc I'd take your magenta for my name instead but let's just go with this for now

Questions I am asking myself:

1. Is there scum on the Witch wagon Yesterday? If so, who is it? What about Shado's alignment?

2. We /know/ for a fact that EoD1 was basically a feasting ground for the wolves - town/town/town wagons. Therefore, scum in {roundbox (67), thesunfan (260), XelNya, TWG Jade Harley (77), Hakulyte (272)} is /incredibly/ likely. Just, who is town in that grouping and who is scum?

3. Haku is either the scum on the sunfan wagon or the sunfan wagon is composed of all townies, which maybe makes sunfan scum?

3. Ditto with Jade. MML is either scum or wagon is composed of all townies?

Food for thought here. I have never tried wagon analysis on this site so I have no idea how good it is, but meh.

I'm kind of at {Xel/Jade/????} here solely because Jade looks like scum from wagon analysis.

1. I think Shado is on there (it was entirely too easy after the things AA said for most people to vote witch here I think) However, if you recall Shado pushed for Xel at eod.

2. This isn't really helpful as you're only leaving out two names from that list. If you boil your statement down to "there is at least one scum in these 5 names" you are automatically correct by maths. I strongly encourage you to consider me town if it helps simplify your analysis.

3. Can I hear your reasoning behind why you think an all-town wagon makes a person more scum-like? Also you seemed to prefer Jade as scum rather than MML, is this correct?

Probably won't be around for the rest of the day
Btw all this talk about witch has made Heart of Witch stuck in my head, so thanks for that

[Wineandbread]

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Please indulge with me