Okay, after a sudden side effect of morning coffee, I'm back in bidness. Gonna pick at the MML lynch and see where things go.
AA-
Please explain what went on in your head between your MML vote
and the lynch? You leaned back and forth on him, said you were happy with your vote, then called for a CFD. That's a pretty solid escalation.
Proph-
I was worried from your actual MML vote post, but you actually explained your actions pretty well after that.
inD-
I scrolled back a bit through your posts and didn't see a clear reason why you were fine voting for MML. If you could elaborate on your read, I'd appreciate the research shortcut.
Freezin-
Originally posted by FreezinIce
I'd kill mml if it means taking me out of a kitb
I get that there were cancer load times at eod, and I'm definitely guilty of getting ninja'd by tons of posts, but you were way out of kitb range when you insta'd. Did you have any sort of read on MML that made the vote easier for you?
inD-
I scrolled back a bit through your posts and didn't see a clear reason why you were fine voting for MML. If you could elaborate on your read, I'd appreciate the research shortcut.
the main thing he had going for him being towny was that one post where he explained his comment about seeing a wolf between you and charu - "charu looked bad out the gate" without much prelude or additional detail is the kind of comment he makes as town because he gets to feel comfortable dumping on things. i brought that post to AA to see if he was considering it when he was saying mml seemed his usual abrasive self, but AA apparently wasn't talking about that post (and i thought it was fairly mild fare regardless)
we kind of reached that he didn't seem to be on his town game as much as we thought when he didn't have a good/expected response to AA's vote, even calling it a shitvote 1 minute to eod
I hate how cedo's slot is just useless right now, there's nothing to get out of it
charu kill could potentially look good for him, as he showed strong conviction about something that is now demonstrably false, and charu's meta read on him feels trustable
freez iso looks really disappointing to me, i didn't see him say anything about cedo besides slank and then he ended up with self pres onto mml who wasn't in his slank poe to my knowledge
i get self pres but it wasn't onto a wagon he might have been okay with earlier
Clearly my initial read on charu was wrong. Definitely tunneled on that for too much of the day.
Originally posted by inDheart
meno/freez voting mml for self pres instead of each other?
also this seems like a case when a cfd has actually happened on FFR which in itself is peculiar and not something i remember from recent times
Originally posted by thesunfan
votecount
cedo (2)- dfr, freezin
meno (2)- Charu, MML
MML (1)- AA
unvote- proph, heart
That was the votecount I based my cedo vote on. We were on the next page before I realized that dfr had moved his vote.
Originally posted by meno_rocks123
Oh shit, I wasn't putting a majority on cedo? MML
I'm into self-preservation.
The only person I can verify as town is myself, so lynching anyone else has a higher odds of hitting a wolf than just accepting my fate. You'll have to pick Freezin's brain if you want to figure out why he hopped on.
Originally posted by AragakiAyase
I also did some thinking about the setup, and this is what I've concluded:
if we have a 1-shot BP, they should always out here. They pretty much will never die so it's very safe agree
if we have a doctor, they should never out unless they get a save that can confirm stuff for us. agree
if we have a cop, I think they should out if their check is living so we can narrow the pool to 5/7 Not sure about this one. I think it would be ideal to have the cop around as long as possible. With two successful checks, we win tomorrow even if both wolves are still alive. Perhaps we can all leave peeks instead of pushing the seer into the open?
if we have a tracker, only out if they have a good result I went back and forth, but I agree on this as well. If tracker has a positive result, the person is either a doctor (25%) or a wolf (75%).
if we have a JK, same thing I guess, although given the death I don't see how there could be useful info. JK I could go either way on. I'm having trouble thinking far enough ahead to figure out all of the implications. Definitely roleclaim before being lynched, though.
Originally posted by AragakiAyase
I hate how cedo's slot is just useless right now, there's nothing to get out of it
Cedo didn't vote yesterday (insta happened 1 minute before eod yesterday, so that's not an excuse). If he's not even showing up to vote and he's town, that's dangerous.
Originally posted by danceflashrevo
I dont think wolf aa would kill charu but i don't like aa aorn
Do you have any specifics why you don't like aa right now? I'm still generally townleaning aa.
Originally posted by TWG Mad Dummy
Like if he's a wolf this game, where would I even begin to look?
I should go read a wolf aa game just so I can get an idea of what wolf aa might look like.
Originally posted by AragakiAyase
lylo/mylo
I swear, every damn page there's new terminology I haven't hit yet. Lucky for me, I found some dude's spreadsheet or I'd be lost af.
I wanted to trust you on your MML read, Aragaki, and I was kind of unconfident strongly pushing Freezin when
1) I know nothing about Freezin
2) It was 1 AM at night and I was barely coherent
3) I literally just caught up with the game thread, and making a push when I just barely caught up seems foolish.
what do you actually think of freez to be able to say this?
speaking of which i think it's freez/cedo who haven't checked in
Which post are you referring to when you say this?
Originally posted by TWG Mad Dummy
5 minutes
willing to vote cedo/freezin/..mml i /guess/
pretty sure my reads suck anyways, i'll improve them tomorrow
He had mml sitting on his list of people he was willing to vote earlier.
Originally posted by TWG Mad Dummy
I wanted to trust you on your MML read, Aragaki, and I was kind of unconfident strongly pushing Freezin when
1) I know nothing about Freezin
2) It was 1 AM at night and I was barely coherent
3) I literally just caught up with the game thread, and making a push when I just barely caught up seems foolish.
This post generally clears it up imo.
Originally posted by inDheart
the main thing he had going for him being towny was that one post where he explained his comment about seeing a wolf between you and charu - "charu looked bad out the gate" without much prelude or additional detail is the kind of comment he makes as town because he gets to feel comfortable dumping on things. i brought that post to AA to see if he was considering it when he was saying mml seemed his usual abrasive self, but AA apparently wasn't talking about that post (and i thought it was fairly mild fare regardless)
we kind of reached that he didn't seem to be on his town game as much as we thought when he didn't have a good/expected response to AA's vote, even calling it a shitvote 1 minute to eod
That was the votecount I based my cedo vote on. We were on the next page before I realized that dfr had moved his vote.
The only person I can verify as town is myself, so lynching anyone else has a higher odds of hitting a wolf than just accepting my fate. You'll have to pick Freezin's brain if you want to figure out why he hopped on.
and then do you have a particular reason for it being mml you moved to?
why do you mention dfr by name? he'd moved to freez; had you meant to be voting with him?
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