TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

my concern with shado is that he cherrypicked, everything else seemed pretty ok but cherrypicking is something I do as a wolf a lot because I know I can get away with it because usually people don't cross reference

Oh ffs AA I wasn't cherrypicking. I literally quoted the quotes relevant to where you were acting weird and said why I thought they were weird. You're accusing me of cherrypicking because I didn't include inD's answer. Idc if he answered yes, no, or "I think you're the moon", I care about the behavior you exhibited in the parts that I quoted, which is why I quoted them.
I'd still like an answer to the previous question btw

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

his mind does seem to be different than last game where it was very mechanically focused d1

Is this referring to me?
I had spent all night that night (and much of the following day) looking for ways to exploit the setup. In that game, I had stopped posting mechanicallly because the possible existence of sabo wolf and doublecross wolf throw a wrench in any massclaim or allegiance advertising we could do to tilt the setup a bit. Why would I carry on down a dead end I had reached in the game past?
I think the 2nd and 3rd (or 1st and 2nd if we hit a non-green on lynch) nightkills give us more info than anything else in this setup, based on whether or not wolves can target Adversaries or directly kill targets, so the only thing mechanics-related thing I have for you is that we're gonna have to wait a bit before being able to use mechanics to deduce anything.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

I think wolf haku doesn't come out of the gate with suspicion on me/sunfan, especially since last turbo I dunked him in the first phase

This is a good point

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

maybe AA and jrodd are both town too
I like both of their posting thus far, but I expect to like it no matter what
game's probably easy from there if they're both town

why is this

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

That quote isn't key at all. My issue wasn't whether he felt pocketed or not, but that your response to him saying your early townread was unnerving him was to rather forcefully ask that same question. Idk, maybe it's weird to me because I don't actually see what you gain from an answer to it.
Actually, why did you ask it so insistently? What were you hoping to gain from his answer?

I asked insistently because I always want my questions answered as a general rule

I wanted to gauge his level of paranoia and how much he felt unnerved by my posts

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

that said his followup here compared to there is very weak

How's that? My followup there was to disappear for a day. My followup here is to get right back on the game as soon as I got up and had a cup of tea.. What do mean by this? cause it sorta seems like you're trying to paint a bad picture of me based on untrue statements and misinformation

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

shado when you get to this can you try pushing me? should make it clear if you're a wolf or not

... Again, how? If I wasnt going to push you, you asking me to would force me into making a push I didn't believe in, which would lead to contradictions that you could exploit.
And if I was going to push you, then your post is meaningless drivel designed to make you look like you're generating info

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

why is this

my d0 is weak and I think you're both capable of fooling me for, at minimum, the length of d0

I'm more confident that jrodd is town than you, but I'm often wrong on him early

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

my d0 is weak and I think you're both capable of fooling me for, at minimum, the length of d0

I'm more confident that jrodd is town than you, but I'm often wrong on him early

I'm going to count this as a town statement. I'm going to pray you post more like this.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

Shado why is me being forceful wolfy?

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

How's that? My followup there was to disappear for a day. My followup here is to get right back on the game as soon as I got up and had a cup of tea.. What do mean by this? cause it sorta seems like you're trying to paint a bad picture of me based on untrue statements and misinformation

I'm talking about V I don't understand how you get that this is about you

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

... Again, how? If I wasnt going to push you, you asking me to would force me into making a push I didn't believe in, which would lead to contradictions that you could exploit.
And if I was going to push you, then your post is meaningless drivel designed to make you look like you're generating info

It seemed like you had a certain degree of conviction as to my scuminess, and seeing how you'd continue that push would give me insight to your mindset

Ofc if you didn't want to keep pushing me then it's moot

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

Just got caught up. I gotta go for a little over an hour but there's a fair bit on mellon/haku that I wanna look at when I'm back.
I'm inclined to think Mellon is town, but we'll see. I've played two (3?) with her as wolf and each time all she did was drop in once or twice a phase with some thoughts and get dismissed to fly UTR. She's actively posting and reads pretty genuine so far, so I'm leaning her town. Sunfan seems to have taken an observer role after all the self-meta posts, which is more of what I expected from the getgo. I'm not convinced he's town but nothing he's said has struck me otherwise.
I'd like to see AA respond to my posts before making a better judgment on him, but I'm not liking him so far.
K bb in 1-2hrs

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

K bb in 1-2hrs

Phase ends in 1.5 hours, but okay.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

Phase ends in 1.5 hours, but okay.

No, it ends tomorrow.
Right?