TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

[roundbox]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

juckter - Zenith, psychoangel, mellonxcollie, Hakulyte, roundbox
dfr - Precarious, XelNya, Charu, juckter
mellonxcollie - dfr
psychoangel - MML
unvote - shadowolfe

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[danceflashrevo]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

This was a clear OMGUS push, including the needless sarcastic flourish ("You decide on FFR TWG CLIX!!"). The problem is, it was based on something completely removed from the actual game. At that time, Charu had been townreading me frequently and aggressively. This wasn't a simple misread; it had been a theme of just about all of Charu's gut reads/roster runs to that point. That suggests that DFR had not been actually following the thread at all. Now, that's somewhat understandable. People get busy. The games here move insanely fast. BUT rather than simply saying "I've been busy, I'll catch up" (as DFR has had no problem doing a bunch of other times in this thread), he instead chose to make a roster run that was not based on actual work/reads. This suggests he simply wanted to make reads in order to create the illusion of towniness, and combined with his accusation get the pressure of a vote off of him. But making reads based on nothing is anti-town, and given its implications, also dishonest.

I wanted to put content. I also had misread charu saying town/wolf for some reason a lot (not evidenced in my posts but I really did, though I don't expect you to believe me). And yeah, that's really really lame of me to misread that coupled with being legitimately busy and wanting to post content and not having the time to read through the entire thread. I hadn't had a town or scum lean on you and misremembered charu's views of you. I didn't make any indication whether or not you were scum or town on it either, simply brought it up. So I wouldn't say I made a read from it. Really it's just poor play by my part and really embarassing but I'll just have to suck it up and continue trying to convince you all that I am town.

(I'll also note that DFR town-read Haku and nulled a floundering Juckter, which will be pertinent in a moment).

called this would happen lul. i wouldn't say I nulled him, i only did at the end. please scum read me on my shit reads.

A town player, when facing a mislynch, should try to leave some information behind, because the mislynch will at least clear them and show that they were acting in good faith. The information may or may not be correct, but at least we would know it's not deliberately deceptive. However, DFR still provides no reads. People think I post empty mechanics, but this post offers nothing that we couldn't have worked out ourselves. There are no reads, no real insights, no comments or observations on what led to this point. A wolf can do this too, after all; while it will be discredited with the flip, it's a good way to simulate towniness and perhaps push off the lynch.

Right, I had no useful information to leave behind. My reads are shit, it'd be wrong anyways. The only useful information that I can give is that I'm town and I'm a waste of a lynch or shot. I gave most of my insights and I really haven't had any conclusion on the majority of the leftover players, which is bad play on my part. Sorry. And yeah the post offers something you could've worked out yourselves. EVERYTHING THAT I POST COULD BE WORKED OUT YOURSELVES BECAUSE I'M BAD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING EVER GOD DAMMIT. It's hard to be original and I don't have a great track record of being great on my own. At this point I was just trying to give off as much as I could. Also weird that you include this little bit about yourself, seems kinda... unnecessary?

As EoD continued and it became clear that DFR wasn't outright doomed, there were some weirdly prescient, defensive posts.



This is a somewhat odd concern, and seems to foreshadow Juckter's flip.

are you serious? i think that's a legitimate concern, you know, because you'd be lynching a townie on a shit read he had. (I'm a he btw).

Then, right after Charu posted a suggestion to Shado to shoot Haku, DFR posted this:



This is the same DFR who had been townreading Haku fairly consistently. If a wolf DFR knew scummate Haku was going to be shot, then it's time to distance.

sorry that i made a joke. will think about not posting jokes next time.

The only payoff is if the suddenly distancing DFR could get clear of the carnage.

I think he's smarter than that, he was hella awkward at EoD and that just made his chances worse.

There are still no reads, nor any posts meaningfully engaging in the game. There are occasional defenses when problems in DFR's profile are raised (see mellon's post #1841 and the conversation that follows).

Trust me I'm trying, at this point I still feel I need to defend myself and help people know my role. And yeah garbage player is still garbage, I'm just trying to be more active, which I feel like I've done decently if there's not a Clemson football game happening (clemson won in ot btw holy shit what a game).

But now that people are townreading DFR to some degree, he is content to sit back. This is despite the fact that we have a wolf and an SK still out there. We have a reason to continue searching. Players interested more in personal survival than ferreting out anti-town look particularly bad now, because survival is at a special premium for both wolf and SK. Neither can die and still win the game.

Don't jump to conclusions about my work ethic buddy.

To me, DFR profiles as a strong wolf read, stronger than when I initially voted them, stronger even than during EoD. Could I be wrong? Sure.

But I doubt it.

danceflashrevo

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[danceflashrevo]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

Who would you say the weakest player in the game is? Not based on town read but in general.

[Charu]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

Oh now you fight back...

Cute

[danceflashrevo]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

Oh now you fight back...

Cute

I'm sorry did you want me to defend myself to something that I didn't see?

[Charu]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

No, I'm referring to this post.

[Charu]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

Who would you say the weakest player in the game is? Not based on town read but in general.

!!

[Charu]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

Only when someone decides to go in depth with you in a different light do you respond in such a way.

Rather curious...

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

For now I'll say I think it was Precarious who went full-on OMGUS with the whole "Zenith is my best SK read" when I had said at the start of the phase that he was a very good one for me.

This doesn't help his case in any way, it'd help solidify mine. Take that as you will Precarious.

[Charu]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

For now I'll say I think it was Precarious who went full-on OMGUS with the whole "Zenith is my best SK read" when I had said at the start of the phase that he was a very good one for me.

This doesn't help his case in any way, it'd help solidify mine. Take that as you will Precarious.

Sorry Pre, but I gotta agree with this.

But secretly, y'know what I really wish for, hee hee hee

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

Another thing, Isolating someone like Precarious for example is hemorrhaging in the sense the majority of posts are unnecessarily long.

[danceflashrevo]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

Charu I don't necessarily follow but whatever tickles your tendies in such a curious manner go for it I guess

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

Holy shit I found something incredible about Precarious.

It wholeheartedly now warrants this: Precarious

You're definitely anti-town in this game (not sure which but I don't give a shit, you're not town).

[Charu]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

Uh... Zenith?

[Charu]

Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

Mind, erm... oh I don't know...

EXPLAIN BEFORE JUST RANDOMLY CALLING IT OUT AND VOTING!?