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  • Charu
    Snivy! Dohoho!
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Mar 2006
    • 6207

    #1576
    Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

    mellon has at least shown willingness to share, show what she's thinking, and has promptly defended herself.

    ...Of course it's not a big town read for her by any stretch, but compare to you, you look like my late night tired sessions on Rocket League.


    Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
    Charu the red-nosed Snivy
    Had a very shiny nose
    And if you ever saw it
    You could even say it glows

    All of the other Snivies
    Used to laugh and call him names
    They never let poor Charu
    Join in any Snivy games

    (Click the arrow to see the rest)


    Originally posted by Vendetta21
    All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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    • Charu
      Snivy! Dohoho!
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Mar 2006
      • 6207

      #1577
      Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

      Holy shit Haku


      Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
      Charu the red-nosed Snivy
      Had a very shiny nose
      And if you ever saw it
      You could even say it glows

      All of the other Snivies
      Used to laugh and call him names
      They never let poor Charu
      Join in any Snivy games

      (Click the arrow to see the rest)


      Originally posted by Vendetta21
      All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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      • psychoangel691
        Retired Staff
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Dec 2004
        • 10438

        #1578
        Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

        Originally posted by mellonxcollie
        I think this was in response to me saying that DFR's push against me felt forced. In that response he's saying that he really just wanted to pressure vote me but felt like he needed to make a bigger post with reasoning against me after being prompted by Charu. at least this is my understanding.

        site is loading like trash right now or I'd pull it up.

        Also I'm working on my own post but going very slow due to site and doing other things at the same time. sorry
        Ah alright, I overlooked it or didn't go far enough back I guess. Still feels too worried to me, but DFR is not likely the person I'd gun for a lynch today.
        Originally posted by Charu
        My dick is good, thank you very much. It gets love and attention no matter what <3 <3 <3
        Originally posted by DaBackpack
        also a fucking helicopter is the absolute last place I'd go to find out how big my dick is
        Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
        Dawg you don't even know. It's so fuckin' small I can use a pen cap to jack off

        Originally posted by hi19hi19
        yeah I'mma go for the Rave7 route she's just perfect, stiff on the top, thin in the middle, and has a BIG THICC END that I can just jack on all night UwU best girl

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        • _Zenith_
          Accuracy Player
          • Mar 2011
          • 4629

          #1579
          Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

          Originally posted by Charu
          Holy shit Haku
          +1





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          • Precarious
            Unacceptable
            • Mar 2014
            • 208

            #1580
            Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

            Originally posted by danceflashrevo
            About damn time more than one person voted for me.

            1. inDheart
            2. Hakulyte
            3. _Zenith_
            4. shadowolfe
            6. Charu
            7. Gradiant
            8. FreezinIce
            9. psychoangel691
            10. Precarious
            11. roundbox
            12. MixMasterLar
            13. XelNya
            14. Juckter1
            15. mellonxcollie


            This leaves 3 wolves and an SK between:
            haku - Still think town
            zenith - Has had great insight to things, def town.
            psychoangel - Null still.
            precarious - I thought I would've seen more interaction between him and charu since charu is scum reading him. Maybe I missed it? Maybe precarious is trying to ignore it? You decide on FFR TWG CLIX!! <credits roll>
            roundbox - I thought his push on me was kinda weak.
            mml - I liked the botchi spot, MML hasn't shown as town as botchi due to hastiness and fallacies but I'd still town read.
            xelnya - Still thought he's been town. I've liked his activity and tone.
            juckter - I thought he was town, activity died down due to IRL stuff. Null aorn but he should be posting again soon tm.
            mellon - Hasn't really contributed as much as I would've wanted yet. I thought I saw a deflection in one of her posts but I'm 99% sure I was wrong.

            My not towns assuming juckter keeps my town after he starts posting: psychoangel, precarious, roundbox, mellon.

            Aye that's 75% wuff fmpov.

            Sorry this is low effort, I admit, but I have to work on calc hw.
            This OMGUS attempt on me might have been slightly more convincing if Charu hadn't town read me on about 30 different occasions. This reads like someone desperate to get the heat off of them, and who hasn't been bothering to follow what's actually been going on. (The needless sarcasm only reinforces that--people often take that tone to diminish the credibility of whoever they're arguing with). Your wolf list also includes the only other person to push you, which sort of reinforces the notion that you're uncomfortable with pressure.

            I feel pretty good about my vote at this point.

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            • XelNya
              [Kaho]
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Sep 2012
              • 3369

              #1581
              Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

              Originally posted by Charu
              mellon has at least shown willingness to share, show what she's thinking...
              And I did this in my longer posts without being pressured into doing it.

              Examples:

              Originally posted by XelNya
              Note: I wrote this last night using my phone to read. The numbers are the post I am responding to / discussing / idea shooting on.

              I will not add links in before posting this. This will be a literal copy paste.

              1153:

              RB I don't think shooting you has any value both mechanically nor overall. You haven't done anything scummy imho. You're not like HOLY FUCK TOWNIEST OF TOWNS but certainly every person on that list (except maybe mellon) gives us more information to work with than you. Short hand is shooting you is not in best interest of town.

              1154:

              I really don't think me being in that list is nearly as important as your post in specific makes it sound. I earnestly have to think that maybe you're borrowing something out of Haku's entrance to the game though if you're still actually thinking Charu is a good shot. I am not a mechanics oriented player by any stretch (in fact I think this is a rare post where I feel comfortable even touching on them slightly) but there's only one fucking time I think shooting Charu is acceptable, and that is an absolute train wreck of a counter claim that makes him look like text book shit. You can call this sucking up to the bird if you'd like but no really, if I were the vigi I'd heavily consider shooting YOU for suggesting this.

              That said if SK kills him in the night (LOL) feel free to without question use that shot on me. I deserve it at that point.

              1156:

              The issue is that more players are feeling you're town than the ones who see you as scummy or null. Shooting you would benefit maybe me and another player. I again don't object to shooting you, but in terms of what gives us the most to use, the only person on that list worth shooting maybe a little less is mellon.

              Short hand is I still am watching you, but everyone else seems to think you're fine. We'll roll with that unless some others drift or I can make a better case about it. Which actually I can't because even I have to admit I think you're doing a lot better.

              1165:

              Actually this post is part of the reasoning I'm more comfortable not putting you into that list dude.

              1157 / 1162:

              LOL CHARU CALM DOWN.

              on DFR voting Mellon /post 1177 makes me bring this up:

              I feel the pressure on mellon is a tad less genuine. Is that just me? Like it's not quite "bad" pressure, but it does feel really forced to meet the requirements of pleasing our feathery friend.

              1180:

              I also agree that lynching shado here is bad. Best thing we can do is discuss and take advantage of his shot as best we can. I'm actually curious since you're a really mechanic focused player, who would you shoot right now? Your opinion is probably a different than mine.

              I wanna touch on this post again later, most likely. Naggeth remind me maybe if you feel obligated. <3

              1184:

              Read list go over party time extravaganza xel get on with it and stop typing things I feel I have to read because they might be important oh god no why is this joke in here come on xel yer supposed to be serious now wtf mate you bastard is there a typo in here I imagine there is other than a lack of any deviation of punctuation what so ever:

              Haku: I agree with your statement about early game but not quiteeeeee for the same reasoning. I don't think the interactions with me are QUITE one sided as earlier they were more both, but him riding me is fine I think. His posting has GREATLY improved lately so even I'm beginning to see it as he just sucks more dick than a penny whore at entering a game.

              Zenith: ... We have seen a deal of reads and discussion from him. People just kinda aren't interacting with him the best? HEY ZENITH ANSWER THE QUESTION I ASKED @1180?

              DFR: I actually am not too sure I agree with leaning him town instead of null, for reasoning I said earlier about the mellon push. (Which btw I didn't mention, was a somewhat MEH push.)

              Charu is a snivey. Not a useless fucking charizard.

              Precarious: I kinda am not fond of the mechanics focus, but to that end it is a very different POV than say me, who uses their gut more than any issues with mechanics.

              Bitchy: I need to see a d1 post before I'll throw him out of the null pile.

              Me: You have to tread through shit sometimes. TOUGH. SHIT. FREN.

              Mellon: agree her response to dfr is ok

              Oh, and I'm not forgetting anyone. I left one out and roundbox is either absent or I'm actually wrong, and did forget someone.

              1188:

              Man as far as aggression goes, I haven't gone that direction in a while. My issue lately with that is that it turns into just me trolling them and people brushing it off (as they should maybe, I dunno.) So I'm playing this super middle ground place where my trolly stuff is in the jokes. Except when telling wolfe how to play his role. (HAH.)

              1193:

              Read list go over party time extravaganza xel get on with it and stop typing things I feel I have to read because they might be important oh god no why is this joke in here come on xel yer supposed to be serious now wtf mate you bastard is there a typo in here I imagine there is other than a lack of any deviation of punctuation what so ever: V2

              Haku: I think the best way for you to solidify a read on Haku is to ignore any notions of post counts meaning anything and just dig through pure content and ignore the question of Mechanics. Haku's been gone from TWG outside the turbo for a while (I THINK?!) So I'm not sure apply mechanical analysis of what he'd play like is quite the best idea? I dunno if that makes any sense but that's kinda why I'm in the state on him I'm in.

              Zenith: I can see this for what I stated in the last one.

              Wolfe: Not rly worth doing this one a second time.

              DFR: I feel it's more of a loss of momentum? I'd love to see him just SPAM thoughts on the whole game in one great wall of post.

              Charu is a snivey. Not a useless FUCKING. CHARIZARD.

              RB: Just noticed I think juckster missed him actually. I forget he's here WHICH IS DUMB BECAUSE I KNOW HE MADE GOOD D0 POSTS AHHHHHHHHHH. I'll prob spend the night reading them or doing this at work on lunch.

              Botchi: see above

              Juck: Fair POV, but do you think with more activity he'd be a stronger town or do you think maybe he's feigning?

              Mellon: I think Mellon tends to be one of the more quiet players (especially compared to say funnygurl?) Not sure if that's true 100% or if that helps.

              Me: o.o

              1199:

              OH SHIT WOLFE WITH THE FIRE. Would love to see a good response to this tbh. Hopefully here when I got to post this.

              Guess I'll drop a list (Least lynch-able -> I'd lynch / shoot)

              Charu
              Wolfe
              Precar
              round

              haku
              juck
              dfr / mellon

              botchi
              dbp

              I'd probably lynch from the bottom, and shoot from the middle here. Reasoning is I cannot stress that I accept I am probably wrong here somewhere. I think shooting from the null pile then lynching a player is the most optimal because we can adjust better. (Assuming we plan on using this shot today.)
              Originally posted by XelNya
              Holy fuck Charu



              You should try one of my quote heavy rereads of a person and see if that helps you (assuming you can get to a PC because it's SO MUCH easier when you have context for the quotes.)



              How he transitioned to playing good is curious tho



              lol



              I'm not sure I follow this properly tbh.



              My mind has changed on packback a bit in that he still hasn't come back the way I was speculating he would. I expected a hard hitting post when he came bnack and decided talking about something non twg related was better?



              We can talk about it more after you finish your full "proper" iso, but I am not sure what this pocket you refer to is about if I'm honest with you. I know it has to be me trying to pocket charu, but I don't think anything I said in this game leads to that possibility. If it's that i think discussing Charu is pointless, it's because it is till later in the game both logically and mechanically. And that'd really only be the case imho if charu either got counter claimed or was leading all the lynches and nabbed the cop or the vengeful / 1 shot.

              I dunno if that's important to say or not.



              Shooting Zenith is bad, you're much better off shooting me than Zenith, look at the work that man's putting in fam.



              Shooting Charu is a shit idea because of Charu as a player. If this were a discussion on Tokzic, I'd actually be behind you and saying do it. Maybe even if it was Xiz. But Charu is a player that despite trolling puts winning first, and I don't think what Charu said in post one as a scum oriented role is a winning tactic, and is such a small chance of being one, that charu would never take it, unless he REALLY wanted a challenging game. Also every possibility as a shot is again the wrong interpretation. It should be "what shot benefits the rest of my comrades, and when?"

              I think your best shots are in this pile AND ONLY this pile.

              5. danceflashgun (danceflashrevo)
              9. DaKnapsack (DaBackpack)
              12. ho246 (botchi246)
              13. Sell?Nah (XelNya)
              14. Lucker1 (Juckter1)
              15. melanxcholy (mellonxcollie)
              I'd only justify a Zenith shot is if he fails to deliver the rest

              And to be frank I think the best three are probably: dbp, me and melon pending dfr pressure response.

              I can go into the zenith being bad when I get home but let's just say he's taking the whole perspective of town in with his isos, no players are being left alone in other words.
              You've been told where I stand without me being pressured into it, more than once.

              I've even somewhat buried some thoughts into the game to

              Originally posted by XelNya
              One more before I go to shower:



              Huh, did you come to the conclusion I came to but haven't said yet? (I think someone else is there too, I'll have to recheck though.)
              WoO!

              Originally posted by XelNya
              I can hardly wait.

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              • Charu
                Snivy! Dohoho!
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Mar 2006
                • 6207

                #1582
                Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                It's between Xel and dfr for me. Mellon I guess is literally those two start giving me the best damn town responses they can muster.

                But I think it's pretty set for those two.


                Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                Had a very shiny nose
                And if you ever saw it
                You could even say it glows

                All of the other Snivies
                Used to laugh and call him names
                They never let poor Charu
                Join in any Snivy games

                (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                • Charu
                  Snivy! Dohoho!
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 6207

                  #1583
                  Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                  Oh, a post from Xel, lets see...


                  Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                  Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                  Had a very shiny nose
                  And if you ever saw it
                  You could even say it glows

                  All of the other Snivies
                  Used to laugh and call him names
                  They never let poor Charu
                  Join in any Snivy games

                  (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                  Originally posted by Vendetta21
                  All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                  • Charu
                    Snivy! Dohoho!
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 6207

                    #1584
                    Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                    Huh... why don't I remember these posts? Let me reread them in full I guess


                    Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                    Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                    Had a very shiny nose
                    And if you ever saw it
                    You could even say it glows

                    All of the other Snivies
                    Used to laugh and call him names
                    They never let poor Charu
                    Join in any Snivy games

                    (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                    Originally posted by Vendetta21
                    All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                    • Charu
                      Snivy! Dohoho!
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 6207

                      #1585
                      Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                      Huh...


                      Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                      Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                      Had a very shiny nose
                      And if you ever saw it
                      You could even say it glows

                      All of the other Snivies
                      Used to laugh and call him names
                      They never let poor Charu
                      Join in any Snivy games

                      (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                      Originally posted by Vendetta21
                      All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                      • Charu
                        Snivy! Dohoho!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6207

                        #1586
                        Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                        Well I stand corrected. I have no idea why that post escaped my thoughts. Probably because I just saw a giant block of text with no quotes and a post number thing that I didn't really want to look at.


                        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                        Had a very shiny nose
                        And if you ever saw it
                        You could even say it glows

                        All of the other Snivies
                        Used to laugh and call him names
                        They never let poor Charu
                        Join in any Snivy games

                        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                        Originally posted by Vendetta21
                        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                        • danceflashrevo
                          scumfan is scared of aa
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 488

                          #1587
                          Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                          it reads like someone who misread a shit ton of things

                          Why are you here?

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                          • ShadoWolfe
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 171

                            #1588
                            Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                            Real quick 'cause I'm running late.

                            I'll have my phone today, and will be reading anytime I get a chance to try to stay up to date, but I don't think I'll be able to respond that much. I'll declare my shot in the same post as my EoD vote. I've been re-reading since noon (it's 2:40 now), and have regained some feel for the game and a few pages of notes in the process. Right now, it's looking likely that I will shoot from the following:

                            2. Hakulyte
                            5. danceflashrevo
                            9. psychoangel691
                            13. XelNya
                            14. Juckter1

                            This list is still determinant on the posts of everyone throughout EoD, but I like it enough to find it unlikely that I'll stray from it.
                            Things to note about people off the list:

                            Precarious is town. His posts, his analyses, his tone, everything he's done is town and has helped town.

                            Zenith is really strong as a wolf, and has fooled me once before where I had him as one of my top towns, so it's important to keep an eye on him and not become too trusting as the game goes on. His posts to date have been good, though, so I'm not shooting him. In later phases, remember to keep an eye on him if I'm not around.

                            Roundbox has been playing a good towngame since EoD. I'm not too familiar with his town game, though, so I don't know if this fits within the scope of his meta. I did play with Wolf Roundbox in BOATS, though, and there are some similarities to be noted. It was interesting to see him reference that game himself, though, in bringing up the last time he did a "follow the vote". That could be an attempt to get in front of any correlation people could draw, but he's been contributing enough solid stuff to where I won't touch him.

                            MML had a really poor entrance, imo, where it seemed as though he was doing anything he possibly could to call everyone else into doubt in order to obfuscate his own role. Given that botchi was one of the two lynch options, and he had pressure on him, it is also possible that his entrance was merely an attempt to defend himself by calling out the people attacking his predecessor. This isn't enough to shoot him, since I can see him posting like that being motivated by either town or scum intentions. What's really saving him from being on the shootlist is that botchi actually looks good on re-read, so let's see how MML pans out.

                            mellon was on the list, then off the list, then on it, then off again. Her tone reads pure, and her logic is natural. The thing bothering me most about her is that she hasn't done much to date, and what posts she did have were mostly in regards to posts and players that had addressed her.

                            Charu's been posting a lot better in the last 24 hours. I like your prodding, birdfriend (despite your self-proclaimed hatred for me atm), keep up the detective work.

                            Okay now I'm late, but there's my thoughts to date.





                            Originally posted by Hakulyte
                            I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                            Originally posted by XelNya
                            " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                            Originally posted by YoshL
                            "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                            Originally posted by mellon_collie
                            "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                            • danceflashrevo
                              scumfan is scared of aa
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 488

                              #1589
                              Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                              @pre

                              Why are you here?

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                              • Charu
                                Snivy! Dohoho!
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 6207

                                #1590
                                Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                                Well then, Xel, it's not by a "longshot" then.

                                Probably even, with a slight edge on yourself actually.

                                I just remember the majority of your posts before then were very lackluster. That post was surprisingly juicy with your own thoughts.

                                ...

                                Why is this game hard?


                                Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                                Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                                Had a very shiny nose
                                And if you ever saw it
                                You could even say it glows

                                All of the other Snivies
                                Used to laugh and call him names
                                They never let poor Charu
                                Join in any Snivy games

                                (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                                All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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