TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

**danceflashrevo** · 10-8-2016, 12:31 PM

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oh, ty

**FreezinIce** · 10-8-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Charu

Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!

Anytime bro. Always happy to contribute to the revising of opinions.

**Charu** · 10-8-2016, 12:48 PM

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After 18 pages, Botchi makes an appearance (Holy shiiiiiit)

His first post he dismisses the Freez and Gradiant scrap as a TvT. Eeeh... I don't agree (of course), but I don't really see anything in this post to tell me anything. Null read for you.

DFR throws some reads this page too. Says Xel is sound town and gives a neutral stance on Pre. I understand the concern as well, but guys, please read him early game. It wasn't strictly mechanical talk. There was a reason for it! (I feel like Pre brings this up later too, lol)

Aah, there we go, the confusion is now let up from mellon! My question still stands by the way, have you played with Freez before? If there's any info you can give that pertains of intrepreting his posts thus far, that be great.

Ah, Xel gives some reads too! Lists me and Gradiant as town. (With reasons given for Gradiant).

Very much would love to know how he reached the inDheart one though, lets see if he says anything later about it.

...Pretty much it. More banter happened, but nothing to read players with.

(Also, if you've been waiting, then lol. I'm still at work, so bear with me!!!)

**mellonxcollie** · 10-8-2016, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Charu

Also, mellon is defending Freezin it looks like. Eeeeh... I think she's misunderstanding the situation. I got ask though, so I guess I'll ask now in this long series of posts.

"Have you played with him before?"

Out of everyone here, I think you're the only person to answer the question, haha. If you say yes, can you give me an example why you're interpreting his post as "joking" when he was prodding Gradiant? If felt very much the opposite at that point.

I have played with him before. I honestly have no idea why I interpreted it that way, I realized I misinterpreted it immediately when I reread it.

It might have to do with the fact that it happened so early in the game. Nobody is usually taking anything too seriously right at the start, and I assume a lot of posts are just going to be jokes and shit posts.

I think the fact that I had a cold, was on drugs for the cold that were messing with my focus, and also smoked weed might have contributed to that misunderstanding a bit too rofl

Cool play by play posts btw, I'm digging them

**Charu** · 10-8-2016, 12:59 PM

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The start of another arguement. Pre vs Backpack!

Originally posted by juckter1

Kay, I've read stuff now.

Shado I forgot about previously, but now I've read him, he seems okay. I don't think his jump on Freeze was as artificial as other people are saying, the thing that I found the most odd is that he seemed to abandon it really quickly. His other stuff is fairly agressive and he's actively engaging people, which may or may not be his style regardless of alignment but I like it. Don't see him leaning towards any alignment right now

mellon is probably town based on tone alone

I'm not familiar enough with memes to read XelNya right now

I'm not good enough at the game to form reads on people I didn't mention on this or my previous post

Despite him disappearing, I really dig this post. It matches my point of view very hard. Town points for you.

Originally posted by Hakulyte

I believe Precarious said something about trying to change his meta for posting more in this game?

Originally posted by Hakulyte

To be accurate:

It's page 2 in Sign ups thread.

Originally posted by Hakulyte

Looks like I proved myself wrong on my own.

gj Haku

meta =/= post count

lol Hakulyte. Strangely enough this makes me town read you further.

Huh... I actually be wrong about inDheart. It's been awhile, but he's going against the (apparent) town consensus of having Freez be null/town. I already said you weren't going to get more town points from doing this, but... I think going at it again after this long deserves some town points.

**mellonxcollie** · 10-8-2016, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by Charu

Aah, there we go, the confusion is now let up from mellon! My question still stands by the way, have you played with Freez before? If there's any info you can give that pertains of intrepreting his posts thus far, that be great.

It's been a few years since we've played, so I'm not sure how much insight I could give but I can try. are there any specific posts you were referring to?

**Charu** · 10-8-2016, 01:12 PM

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Backpack drops some reads. Still reading freezin mysteriously town with no explanation still.

Originally posted by ShadoWolfe

By previous post, you're referring to this:

, right?

It's been awhile, are those reads on Gradiant, Freez, Haku, and Charu still up to date with your thoughts?

Wolf getting worried, or shadow being proddy? Vote now on your phones! (Null post regardless)

Originally posted by juckter1

Charu isn't likely to change until much further into the game, Gradiant still with the agressive posting which I townread him for, and Haku hasn't said anything that changed my read in either direction.

Freez is weird, his reason for voting Gradiant is like, objectively bad, but I can't see why a wolf would play like he has so far. I can't read him well right now

Fucking beautiful post. Sounds very pure and the thoughts are very fair. (Even questioning himself about Freezin's motives).

Pre comes in and dumps some reads (and explanations). Either I'm reading wrong, or he's reading shadow as a possible wolf canidate. Reasons given are unique as they are the first I've seen given.

I like his thinking process. I would be more careful, but I think your early game has proven that your nicely written posts here is genuine.

Originally posted by Precarious

Your "read" was saying two people read town. No reason why--just they are. So terrific. Why?

And here's your post history for the game so far. Other than the embedded quoting my response and the two line quote above, every single post you've made--all 20 of them--have been one line throwaway efforts. And that's also the problem I have with just evaluating activity by post count. You've said nothing today (other than with regard to our little fight here). You tiptoe around Charu (since attacking someone who's effectively confirmed town is dangerous) with brief little posts, then try to call up your history when you're challenged on it. Again, check the link. It's empty. Other than the post I quoted, not a single post before you challenged me even pertains to the game. And your response to me isn't good either--it's aggressive, then tightens up and backs off defensively right at the end, like you're afraid to press the issue now that it's actually been raised. Needling me is fine, but standing on your previous record like you've actually been working is hilarious. And dishonest.

DaBackpack

I actually dig this post and vote. I agree with his assement of backpack's non-existant reasons of his reads. I don't know if he finally explains after all these pages, but we'll see.

**roundbox** · 10-8-2016, 01:13 PM

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It's the weekend my dudes
Time to eat lunch and post!!

**Charu** · 10-8-2016, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by Hakulyte

Can you develop on that?

Another first from Haku. I love how he boldly questions Pre. That takes some town guts.

Originally posted by Charu

To be completely fair. The fact he's been posting is enough to tell me he's not likely a wolf.

lol, this is probably still the case by the way. He could just be the SK for all I know for the lack of "reasons" he's giving.

Originally posted by DaBackpack

wow

Tsk tsk, that's not a reason, backpack. Wolf point to you.

Originally posted by DaBackpack

you're essentially using the supposition that I'm a hypocrite as a reason to vote me which makes no fucking sense from a logical perspective

To be honest... he's in the right about your "reads" at this point in time.

Also, not sure if Gradiant misunderstood Pre's post or what.

**roundbox** · 10-8-2016, 01:32 PM

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where do I even start

I guess I'll just mark down notable interactions from every player instead of combing their entire post history

**Charu** · 10-8-2016, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by ShadoWolfe

Two things:

1: I'm surprised that nobody has commented on my garfield picture. It's shocking and hilarious at the same time. Fucking uncultured fucks.

2: Precarious... "You tiptoe around Charu (since attacking someone who's effectively confirmed town is dangerous)" seems like a slip. It's human nature to include unrelated things into a conversation if they're one our mind. I could be talking about tacos, but replace the word "taco" with, "car", if I've been having car troubles. I liked the rest of your post, but could you explain your reasoning on the Charu bit? I, for instance, haven't talked to our birdfriend at all, except for making "brief little posts" about his birdiness. How does DaBackpack differ from anyone else in that regard?

Are you actually reading the game at this point, or are you suddenly forgetting what has been said thus far? He fuckin' explained ages ago, jesus christ.

...juckter afterwards screams out that he can't read Freez... lol, okay. Pretty null statement.

Originally posted by juckter1

Uh, are you suggesting dbp is feigning activity? If I'm misinterpreting your post then that's fine, but I doubt he's trying to pretend to be active. Out of the iso you provided around half of the posts are shitposts and the remaining posts, even if they're short, are actually pushing on something and are actual content.

This just feels like you're trying to justify omgus for some reason

I feel like I'm one of the few that understand pre right now, FUCK.

That's exactly what he's suggesting and that's exactly why he voted for backpack. Come on dude, don't lose your town points you just earned!!!

Pre tries explaining (again) to juckter about why he posted what he posted. I can't give you any more town points bro, stop it.

And I haven't really touched on this bit, but it looks like throughout this mess, Xel is expressing he wants to lynch Haku.

I mean COME THE FUCK ON BRO, do you see these yummy interactions? Comment on those, don't be just saying "I want Haku, mmm". That's creepy and stalkerish (and actually can be read as wolfy, do you want me to add you to the shady pile?)

Originally posted by Hakulyte

Here's a quick ninja of ShadoWolfe who's about to mention reads.

1. inHard (inDheart) - Most likely Town
2. Hakuright (Hakulyte) - Most likely Wrong
3. R.e.ally Xi (R.E. Aryxi) - Low Activity
4. SurelyWolfe (Shadowolfe) - Null (not sure what to think of you vs FreezinIce)
5. danceflashgun (danceflashrevo) - Low Activity
6. Charuzard (Charu) - Most likely Town
7. Greatiant (Gradiant) - Most likely Town
8. FreezeInIce (FreezinIce) - Null town-lean? (not really familiar with how you play)
9. DaKnapsack (DaBackpack) - Null town-lean?
10. PriCARius (Precarious) - Null wolf-lean?
11. boundrocks (roundbox) - Low activity
12. ho246 (botchi246) - Low activity
13. Sell?Nah (XelNya) - Null town-lean?
14. Lucker1 (Juckter1) - Null (not sure how to read you)
15. melanxcholy (mellonxcollie) - Null town-lean (not really familiar with how you play)

This is actually an empty post in desguise, but I appreciate the effort Haku, I really do, haha. Now if you could just explain your reads somewhere down the road, maybe I'll take this list more seriously. (Do you even make reasons afterwards?)

Originally posted by FreezinIce

Bruh you channeling your inner shado with these misquotes?

Charu's original point was my posts were emotional and questioned my intentions. Not...whatever you just said. But are you starting to feel a bit heated with all this mudslinging?

If your coming after me bring some legit material next time

Back to this arguement, DOES ANYONE SEE THIS BLATANT 180 EMOTION CONSTANTLY? Seriously, it's pissing me off. And now he's throwing Shadow in there to throw even more confusion. Either he's reading people are starting to see him as possible scum, or he WANTS people to see him as scum as well.

FUCK SHIT COCK

...However, shadow makes a lovely reads list, lets take a look, shall we?

He's reading inDheart as wolf... possibly due to the reasons I was giving at the very start...

...

Actually no, that's not his reasons at all. His reason for reasding him wolf is because he was shit posting and commentating on how weird the freez thing was.

Mmmmmm... MMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Shadow my boy, you ARE a wolf, aren't you?

...Anyways, lets keep going with his reads.

...

Everything else looks fine until up to Freezin (lol). Now he lists him as null leaning wolf. Gives an explanation, BUT ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU JUST GAVE A WOLF READ FOR TO INDHEART!?

WHAT THE FUCK!?

He dismisses backpack too, so much as to call him town for apparently... mind melding? Excuse me sir, but if that's what you're thinking, then WHY ARE YOU STILL LABELING HIM TOWN? WHAT IS THIS PILE OF CRUD!?

Also, nice easy bake going for low hanging fruit for juckter my man. That's real stylish of you. My word man, MY WORD, and you thought you caught someone red handed? I think I found two wolves in a single phase and it's only the first one!

Wowie!!!

...Everything else seems normal actually, just those two stick out like very sore thumbs. What the fuck.

**inDheart** · 10-8-2016, 01:43 PM

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sorry for the delay, i'm still kind of cleaning up my cookwares

Originally posted by Charu

inDheart being the first to make the shitpost sees the bomb, but instead of immediately flipping out or questioning it (or really just be baffled), calls it a "convincing case" when all I really did was just say what I was and told other PR's how to play this specific game. Of course in TWG there's multiple ways to interpret something, but I get the feeling here that his response was more of a reflexive action more than an actual genuine response.

How curious...

i don't see a reason to be baffled though? i don't really see bodyguard as an incredibly dangerous claim to make, because then the only reason to off you is if you're lying, and town would have to agree on that during the day. you're inviting a counterclaim for sure, and that hasn't happened.

maybe this is my town of salem conditioning speaking, but let's suppose you didn't claim, and someone discovers your night immunity. or actually, if any night kill misses, bodyguard has to be the target's claim. the way town of salem used to be (maybe still is, i dunno), if someone finds out you're night immune, you die, because the vast majority of roles with that property are antitown. (interestingly it was really easy to make people ignore how exactly one would figure out someone else's night immunity.) that's why i would worry so much about you being sk, because that's the other thing that's night immune (though it's a roll here).

so claiming outright like you did has the advantage of no one really misinterpreting the result they get, should they hit someone who's night immune. that's pretty much where my head was then.

**Charu** · 10-8-2016, 01:47 PM

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Beginning of this page is more or less banter and more of Freez and Gradiant... but...

Originally posted by FreezinIce

I like how you angrily try to justify your revenge vote

lol ur dumb, he already did you jerk nugget... and that was 10 or so pages ago.

...

That's pretty much it with this page. Just the two of them going at each other. Reads have not changed. I guess I'll note Xel points out something, but do take note he doesn't get engaged into the conflict(s) that are happening.

**Charu** · 10-8-2016, 01:52 PM

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Still the same shit.

DFR comes in and gets involved with the conflict. He gets another town point from me.

Wow, he even gives (admittedly a crude) reads list.

Originally posted by danceflashrevo

13. Sell?Nah (XelNya) - town. i've liked his content thus far

Wondering if this is the same read now as it is on this page. I haven't seen much of Xel yet. Just a whole bunch of hovering and not getting involved with the conflicts going on.

Pretty much it for this page.

**roundbox** · 10-8-2016, 01:56 PM

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actually fuck this let's go from LEAST POSTS to MOST POSTS

botchi

I've played wolf with botchi before and saw plenty of his early games as wolf where he kinda just imploded.

Originally posted by botchi246

oh my lord, if i see another got damn post wall i am going to spontaneously explode!!! (i just tend to gloss over a lot if the posts are too damn long or the thread becomes long post after long post rip)

im still thinking that this gradiant freeze thing is a town vs. town. Gradiant is doing a sick job of countering freeze and explaining his reasons, which is protown. Freeze, even though i havent played with you before, I like how you are responding to gradiant, your tone is very town although at this point it feels like you both are beating a dead horse.

indheart vs. shado: i think that this could be a town vs. wolf(or sk possibly, who knows). I think that shado is getting some cabin fever with so few people actually active in this game and is lashing out through his posts ( is this true shado?). maybe he is just bored.

i feel like this post is important becuz it brings to light that shado is being pretty rude here to indheart on purpose. i want to side with indheart on that shado is building on a shaky foundation, but its d0 and thats to be expected.

also, again screw you charu, your first long post definitely set the tone and now there are so many dumb long posts. not that the content of the teh posts is dumb (well some XD), but the presence of them.

i do no think haku is a wolf this time around, he doesnt seem to be destroying himself as much as usual, and thats usually protown imo.

i know that there are a lot of names missing from this list, but if your name is not on here, you are null for lack of posts or null for lack of content

This post looks nothing like implosion, and looks very much like a town botchi. I feel like he would crumble a little bit as Serial Killer too, but the thoughts in here are pretty decent reads. People who become suspicious of botchi in later phases are dumb as sin so here's my eventual middle finger for when I'm dead and you're trying to lynch him in a future phase