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  • leonid
    I am leonid
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Oct 2008
    • 8080

    #46
    Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

    Someone stepped kanon for FFR? I didn't submit my chart because it heavily relied on holds and mines and I couldn't figure out a good way to make it not dull without

    Here's the chart for comparison (left one is the main chart)
    Last edited by leonid; 07-10-2016, 01:01 AM.



    Proud member of Team No

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    • MikeShinoda12345
      *\(^o^)/*
      • Oct 2008
      • 1890

      #47
      Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

      Woahhhhh okay I'm not so hot about Kanon or whatever the d5 song was but Zauberkugel is both EXTREMELY fun and really surprisingly hard
      Zauberkugel and SFS are both some of my favorite files ever tbh

      edit: also, can d4'ers really hit Zauberkugel's down jack? Am I just bad at jacking? Cause o_o
      Last edited by MikeShinoda12345; 07-10-2016, 01:23 AM.

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      • ItsOnlyDanO
        Stuck in the past
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Oct 2013
        • 1168

        #48
        Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

        the jack is at ~154bpm so make of that what you will

        certainly caught me off guard when i first saw it
        Ghosts appear and fade away.......

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        • XelNya
          [Kaho]
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Sep 2012
          • 3369

          #49
          Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

          Originally posted by bmah
          Dating Start!
          - song: Nice upbeat song from Undertales. I don't care too much about the game, but I'll admit this is a cute song.
          - chart: Pretty tricky for D1, but the file is well-stepped. Hope they fare well.
          I can agree with this objectively

          But subjectively

          yeah cool song's cute catchy, I fuckin' love the Undertale OST, but geez, why did silvuh leave the repeat, it drags super hard in a file I find boring and uneventful as it is x.x'

          But I wanna chalk that up to song choice and not anything silvuh did "wrong"

          Also think the 192nds should have been jumps or maybe even hands and not colored because while yeah it's cool, it's kinda lack luster in usage there imho

          PS: I better not get banned for this post. (Yes this needs to be said.)

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          • TC_Halogen
            Rhythm game specialist.
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2008
            • 19376

            #50
            Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

            jeez, don't be that fragile lol

            you're very clearly showing an opinion, you're not being rude in the slightest.

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            • SKG_Scintill
              Spun a twirly fruitcake,
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Feb 2009
              • 3876

              #51
              Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

              don't be fragile? wow AJ
              wow





              Originally posted by bluguerilla
              So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
              ___
              . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
              . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
              .

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              • XelNya
                [Kaho]
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Sep 2012
                • 3369

                #52
                Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

                Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                jeez, don't be that fragile lol

                you're very clearly showing an opinion, you're not being rude in the slightest.
                There is a very good reason that's there. ^_^

                That said I do know he also charted Heartache and I'm super curious how it came out in comparison to mine I'd finished before knowing he had, and I think you guys had it slated for use in the official

                I could be wrong on that tho

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                • ZanmatoFusion
                  FFR Player
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 38

                  #53
                  Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

                  Originally posted by MikeShinoda12345
                  Kanon is unnecessarily awkward and tbh not super fun, though probably a lot of effort was put in (color notes ._.)
                  Stress Free Style is lol
                  Edit: Okay I played Stress Free Style a little more and this is so so fun omg
                  I 100% completely agree. In regards to the unnecessary awkwardness of the file. I have been playing this file non stop all night, and while I am very much irritated at the chat, I am more irritated at myself. However, I couldn't help but play the file in my head and via the in-game bot to see that as of late, it seems step artists, when stepping a higher difficulty file, just step them in regards to being "ridiculous." I.E. - Being a dick step artist.... /plainlyput.

                  I'm sorry but the song itself is mere garbage. It has a very nice tone to it from the beginning but then moves on to just be noise. For once I'd like to play a file that is musically easy on the ears and not the hands so to speak.

                  Whilst this is my pure 100% opinion to which I am entitled to, I know it takes a lot to create a file of this caliber (sp?). I just feel it was not necessary to; A- Make it this awkward, or B- use it as a file for a tournament. /opinion.

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                  • j-rodd123
                    End of the road
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3692

                    #54
                    Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

                    guys dont say a chart is bad, walrusizer is just gonna come and call you bad for your opinion

                    Originally posted by FictionJunction
                    wow

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                    • ZanmatoFusion
                      FFR Player
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 38

                      #55
                      Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

                      We are entitled to an opinion. I haven't spoken out about "bad" files the entire duration of this tournament. However, this one I had to.

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                      • j-rodd123
                        End of the road
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3692

                        #56
                        Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

                        i know i was just making a joke cuz i called the chart from last round d5 bad and some random user walrusizer apparently thinks if you call a chart bad it means you are bad at the chart yourself
                        Last edited by j-rodd123; 07-10-2016, 07:04 PM.

                        Originally posted by FictionJunction
                        wow

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                        • DarkZtar
                          (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 668

                          #57
                          Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

                          Originally posted by ZanmatoFusion
                          it seems step artists, when stepping a higher difficulty file, just step them in regards to being "ridiculous." I.E. - Being a dick step artist.... /plainlyput.
                          1. There are plenty of songs that can organically produce charts of 80+ difficulty. I personally don't see many charts <90 that feel unreasonably catered to being more difficult than the song warrants. It's already been mentioned that Kanon's difficulty was likely on the lower end of the spectrum that the song warrants.

                          2. Even then considering the conservative layering (for the most part), the burst patterns are very friendly. Like trust me as someone who likes putting in annoying patterns to fuck with people, Kanon's patterning is friendly as hell.

                          If anything Nathan was too nice when making the chart :v)

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                          • blanky!
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 164

                            #58
                            Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

                            Originally posted by DarkZtar
                            If anything Nathan was too nice when making the chart :v)
                            when in doubt pussy out

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                            • Walrusizer
                              D7 Elite Keymasher
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 1080

                              #59
                              Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

                              you are bad for your opinion
                              is expressing my inability to create a creative signature an act of creativity in and of itself?

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                              • ZanmatoFusion
                                FFR Player
                                • Jun 2016
                                • 38

                                #60
                                Re: Official Tournament Round 3 Files

                                Originally posted by DarkZtar
                                1. There are plenty of songs that can organically produce charts of 80+ difficulty. I personally don't see many charts <90 that feel unreasonably catered to being more difficult than the song warrants. It's already been mentioned that Kanon's difficulty was likely on the lower end of the spectrum that the song warrants.

                                2. Even then considering the conservative layering (for the most part), the burst patterns are very friendly. Like trust me as someone who likes putting in annoying patterns to fuck with people, Kanon's patterning is friendly as hell.

                                If anything Nathan was too nice when making the chart :v)

                                Red -> You have played 99% of the songs in-game as we speak. Are you really telling me there are charts sub 90 that are NOT stepped harder than they should be? Over 1800 songs in game, and everyone of them was stepped as they "should" be? Or that they were stepped to not be "intentionally" "dick-ish?"

                                Green -> I don't personally care if the chart was stepped easier or harder than what the song sounds like. What I personally am "opinionated" about is the fact that there are awkward patterns that really distract away from the sound of the song itself. For instance; the patterns at combo 649 (Triple Jacks) is extremely awkward on the 2nd triple jack. (When the song is not on mirror) When it is on mirror, the 1st one seems a bit awkward as well. Another section would be the little mini "burst" (if you will) in the middle of the trill towards the end of the song. We saw the same transition ridiculousness in the R1 D6 file. Some of the patterns, while stepped and judged and accepted, whether they are "correct" (what is correct?) or not is irrelevant. It still tends to amp up the difficulty slightly due to the awkwardness of a file, thus making it seem like it is intentional.

                                Blue -> The burst patterns are most certainly not friendly. I was/am a burst oriented player. I've favored songs like 44 Edit, All of the Birds Midair (etc.) files, Obscene Amount of Steam, Passage D, No Purpose Flour, and the list goes on. A lot of those files have extremely awkward hand positioning for bursts. Yet are easily done. Does not make them easy nor does it make them hard. They are AWKWARD.

                                Regardless, I feel the file isn't up to "snuff." ilikexd has stepped some incredible charts. He is one of the best Step Artists as of late in my honest opinion only have what (1?) file rejected, that's it? He has a ton of files I thoroughly enjoy. This one, however, I am not a fan of. That is my opinion.

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