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  • hi19hi19
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    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2005
    • 12194

    #931
    Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

    Originally posted by Killionz
    This is tricky, and the solution to this would be extraordinarily variable, but after talking to a few people, and looking over some things, it would almost be better off divided up like this:
    D1: 10-25
    D2: 26-35
    D3: 36-45
    D4: 46-55
    D5: 56-65
    D6: 66-75
    D7: 76-85
    D8: 85+
    Ironically, I feel this is a far worse solution. There are SO many more people playing in the 56-75 range than in the novice divisions. It's pretty easy to improve in the D1/D2 skill level, but improving once you hit FMOs is a lot slower.
    Under this system, D5 and D6 would be even bigger than they are now, I'd reckon, meaning extra work for the additional division, and the end result is worse.

    Also I think this is where they "you're funny" comment comes from. Because this has been suggested every tournament, and it really doesn't work.
    If there were to be an extra division, you'd have to squash it in between the current bottom of D7 and current mid-D6, and move current D6 and D5 down a bit, I think. It definitely wouldn't be a nice clean "every 10 difficulties" split like you have.
    Last edited by hi19hi19; 06-25-2016, 09:54 PM.


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    • Deidara837
      For a New Beginning
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jun 2008
      • 1751

      #932
      Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

      Divisions are arbitrary by nature though
      That's why this issue can't be fixed by agreeing upon X number of divisions or where the cutoffs should be

      So only a drastic format overhaul would get to the root of the problem

      But at the moment, this method provides a framework for a standard elimination tournament, and a completely different format might not even be an improvement, just different thing with its own problems

      _9th OT: D2 - 13th Place
      10th OT: D5 - 45th Place
      11th OT: D6 - 12th Place

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      • hi19hi19
        lol happy
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Oct 2005
        • 12194

        #933
        Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

        The fairest way to do this is just have one division, and if you're not good at the game (i.e. high D7) then goodbye. This is the o!m system, basically.
        The current division system was put in place to give novices a chance to participate, and ironically leads to players in the novice divisions complaining about it every tournament.

        Whoo FFR!

        EDIT- I should really finish my project with AJ asdfjk;asdf but I'm lazy
        Last edited by hi19hi19; 06-25-2016, 09:58 PM.


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        • psychoangel691
          Retired Staff
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Dec 2004
          • 10438

          #934
          Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

          Originally posted by hi19hi19
          meaning extra work for the additional division, and the end result is worse.
          I just want to note that I really don't have any issues with doing extra work for the tournaments, I really enjoy putting this all together. The issue is adding another division isn't going to solve the problem and imo there has to be a line drawn in adding divisions. I know how much it sucks being at the bottom, I've been bottom D5 forever but if I want to win I'm going to fight for it because I'd love to be better at this game.

          I guess I can't understand this mentality here on FFR where a lot of people seem like they don't want to push themselves to improve. Yes this tournament is hard, and it's going to push a lot of people to their limits. I bet you we're also going to see a lot of people who boost up and improve a lot during this.
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          • Cold Kitten
            i love (purple things)
            • May 2009
            • 1341

            #935
            Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

            Originally posted by Killionz
            Because I made a suggestion? I don't expect anyone to listen to me, care, or really hear me out, but I'm getting my voice out there about all of this. I think that this is a very intelligent debate, with good suggestions, and I love debating with people on this. However, you, have added nothing intelligent to this. So if you'd like to hop in on this and discuss how you feel, go right ahead. If you're going to chip in two words, that have no relevance to what I said, I could really care less about what you have to say.

            However, everyone has an opinion, as do I, so thank you for hopping in.
            you complained about a AAA fest in d6. these difficulties would, for the most part certainly be followed by AAA fest.


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            • Walrusizer
              D7 Elite Keymasher
              • Aug 2014
              • 1080

              #936
              Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

              ewwww effort how dare you force people to actually try how dare you
              is expressing my inability to create a creative signature an act of creativity in and of itself?

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              • Killionz
                FFR Player
                • Oct 2015
                • 12

                #937
                Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                Originally posted by ll sephirothll
                stop fighting. the game is shit and dead and i dont understand why you guys even made another official lol
                Hey, no more trolling man, that's not intellectual discussion.

                What did you have for dinner? I had some bomb-ass Sloppy J's & pork beans.

                I'm out for now -

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                • Killionz
                  FFR Player
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 12

                  #938
                  Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                  Originally posted by Walrusizer
                  ewwww effort how dare you force people to actually try how dare you
                  How about for each division, an excite bike marathon is implemented, and each round, the marathon increases by an hour.

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                  • Walrusizer
                    D7 Elite Keymasher
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 1080

                    #939
                    Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                    Originally posted by Killionz
                    How about for each division, an excite bike marathon is implemented, and each round, the marathon increases by an hour.
                    yes
                    is expressing my inability to create a creative signature an act of creativity in and of itself?

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                    • Kanzas
                      Buh
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 1459

                      #940
                      Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                      Originally posted by Killionz
                      How about for each division, an excite bike marathon is implemented, and each round, the marathon increases by an hour.
                      You'd have to play like, what, 370~ times per hour?
                      That's absurd


                      Do it


                      Edit: Got a new USB Logitech k120 kb, so let's see how this works out!
                      Last edited by Kanzas; 06-25-2016, 10:10 PM.




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                      • TC_Halogen
                        Rhythm game specialist.
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                        • Feb 2008
                        • 19376

                        #941
                        Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                        Originally posted by hi19hi19
                        EDIT- I should really finish my project with AJ asdfjk;asdf but I'm lazy

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                        • hi19hi19
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                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 12194

                          #942
                          Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                          Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                          Don't u fucking me mister


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                          • hi19hi19
                            lol happy
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 12194

                            #943
                            Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                            lol


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                            • Soundwave-
                              Carry your failures proud
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 644

                              #944
                              Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                              Also can we talk about how 9 out of 41 doesn't make a AAA-fest like there's still 32 spots where you can not AAA kbye.
                              Originally posted by [11:38 PM] Hakulyte
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                              • bmah
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                                • Oct 2003
                                • 8448

                                #945
                                Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                                Originally posted by psychoangel691
                                I guess I can't understand this mentality here on FFR where a lot of people seem like they don't want to push themselves to improve.
                                I'm guessing it's because people are too hung up about absolute equality in regards to skills and divisions, which is impossible to achieve when you set up multiple divisions. Perhaps every tournament should have some sort of quick preamble in regards to the nature of a multi-divisional tournament and the fact that it will inherently result in varied degrees of skill within each division. If people don't understand this, the only thing they'll be thinking about is how "rigged" it is, a kind of thought that trumps above all else, including suggestions to improve.
                                Last edited by bmah; 06-25-2016, 10:35 PM.

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