Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

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  • adlp
    FFR Veteran
    • Jul 2006
    • 1757

    #76
    Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

    Originally posted by DaBackpack
    I actually sampled criminology literature on the topic, the most recent and most cited ones (from Google Scholar and my affiliated campus libraries)

    both in frequency and in citations, publications with the "little correlation" conclusion are more than those with the "concealed carry and gun violence are correlated" hypothesis

    And most research with the "correlative" conclusion had been refuted in more recent works

    my survey was less than systematic which is why I asked if there were any breaking studies or w/e

    I'm not going to compile a literature review on the topic but I actually wanted to see if rigorous investigation supported these claims, at least through a cursory look through the literature

    EDIT: After such a statement I should probably substantiate those claims at least a little, but I'm tired and am not gonna do it unless people will actually read it

    I do encourage people interested to conduct similar searches through academic journals instead of public news outlets
    criminology and criminal justice is my major and this is a dumb statement to say. this is a good writeup

    Last edited by adlp; 06-21-2016, 10:56 AM.

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    • DaBackpack
      ~ お ま ん こ ~
      • Mar 2014
      • 918

      #77
      Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

      Originally posted by adlp
      criminology and criminal justice is my major and this is a dumb statement to say. this is a good writeup

      http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/...nter-Final.pdf
      I would not call the Crime Prevention Research Center an authority on the matter

      They have a strong pro-gun bias and their founder is one of the main researchers who advocated for concealed carry in the 90's

      his research has since been disproved repeatedly

      I trust the findings I found before because they came from several different journals

      so, I'm skeptical


      Originally posted by Moogy
      no one cares
      Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
      there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
      that's kind of a sad statistic

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      • DaBackpack
        ~ お ま ん こ ~
        • Mar 2014
        • 918

        #78
        Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

        I might take a look later and find out how they are getting the results they claim though


        Originally posted by Moogy
        no one cares
        Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
        there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
        that's kind of a sad statistic

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        • Arch0wl
          Banned
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Dec 2002
          • 6344

          #79
          Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

          Originally posted by rushyrulz
          The ad hominem attack was the straw
          I have not made an ad hominem attack, much less multiple

          your post is a civility norm proposal, not a true/false criticism.

          if you mean ad hominem like how I think you mean, refer to: http://laurencetennant.com/bonds/adhominem.html
          Last edited by Arch0wl; 06-21-2016, 11:43 AM.

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          • top
            Banned
            • Apr 2012
            • 1907

            #80
            Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

            Is this why he was banned? Can u really call that flaming? Feels a bit off if ya ask me

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            • Frank Munoz
              Muein
              • Nov 2007
              • 2047

              #81
              Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

              Originally posted by top
              Is this why he was banned? Can u really call that flaming? Feels a bit off if ya ask me
              Top really I can not believe you like/
              for real?
              if you aren't even going to use baseline levels of competence to make a reply, just don't. no one needs to hear what you have to say. they're probably even better off for not hearing it.

              the likelihood of you saying anything valuable after this without even knowing the subject matter you're addressing is nonexistent


              this isn't a cynical reply i'm mocking arch's own words please see my sarcasm <3<3<3.
              Last edited by Frank Munoz; 06-21-2016, 02:01 PM.
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              • choof
                Banned
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Nov 2013
                • 8563

                #82
                Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

                why the fuck is arch0wl banned

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                • xXOpkillerXx
                  Forever OP
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4207

                  #83
                  Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

                  Lol people want to carry guns. That's so funny

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                  • Frank Munoz
                    Muein
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 2047

                    #84
                    Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

                    "don't reply again"

                    "get the fuck out. you are completely and utterly full of shit."

                    "fuck you"
                    Unknown and Unofficial
                    may the good arrow guide you

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                    • xXOpkillerXx
                      Forever OP
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4207

                      #85
                      Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

                      Originally posted by Frank Munoz
                      "don't reply again"

                      "get the fuck out. you are completely and utterly full of shit."

                      "fuck you"
                      You can't quote without sources !!

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                      • top
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 1907

                        #86
                        Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

                        When i read those particular sentences in the midst of the argument i took it like he was bashing the opposing argument not the person...

                        Out of context tho i guess..

                        Grow balls

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                        • choof
                          Banned
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 8563

                          #87
                          Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

                          Originally posted by Frank Munoz
                          "don't reply again"

                          "get the fuck out. you are completely and utterly full of shit."

                          "fuck you"
                          hey man if you're being a shitlord you deserve quotes like this
                          but pls show me where he said this
                          arch0wl generally has more tact than this so if you're putting words in his mouth it's ujst because you're stuck in bitchmode

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                          • choof
                            Banned
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 8563

                            #88
                            Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

                            Originally posted by Arch0wl
                            because I'm going to say no, you didn't. don't reply again if you haven't referenced them.

                            "I don't disagree that we can't rely on strict pacifism to deal with this threat" yeah this is not a concession at all. this concession is taking you from "human vegetable-tier intelligence" to "capable of reading words on a screen."



                            utter bullshit.

                            you claim to have enough knowledge about guns to make this prediction, and yet

                            1. you said "I don't like guns"

                            2. you admitted that going to a place with concealed carry would be a "culture shock"

                            yet you claim to have the firearms competence to successfully predict the outcome of a firefight


                            get the fuck out. you are completely and utterly full of shit.
                            yea okay
                            he's obviously telling you to get your shit straight so you are at fault here for not coming in with an open mind and cherry picking shit to respond to

                            so yea

                            get the fuck out

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                            • choof
                              Banned
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 8563

                              #89
                              Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

                              you got the power of the internet at your finger tips and yet you seem to not want to use it

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                              • DaBackpack
                                ~ お ま ん こ ~
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 918

                                #90
                                Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

                                Originally posted by choof
                                yea okay
                                he's obviously telling you to get your shit straight so you are at fault here for not coming in with an open mind and cherry picking shit to respond to

                                so yea

                                get the fuck out
                                that doesnt give him freedom to say shit like that to ppl tho


                                Originally posted by Moogy
                                no one cares
                                Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                                there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                                that's kind of a sad statistic

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