TWG 150: Undertale Postgame

[thesunfan]

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I kinda wanna give MVP to charu honestly, for causing so much shit early on that everyone thought about charu too much

I'd give it to Flowey, I think that they played essentially perfectly this game.

[Makilaz]

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Idk friend, I get that focusing solely on meta can be gross, and yes it did ultimately lead me to the wrong decision, but I was literally harping that there was always at least one between Napsta and you based on that. I don't particularly think that it led me too astray. A lot of why I was reading you scummy was centered around how you continued to read Napsta and how you pushed back on me. I think some part of me initially also didn't really like the bomb claim, although I tried not to focus on this, and when I looked back at your reaction to sans claiming bomb, you just laughed in his face, so that was good.

All in all, I'd read san's reads list the same way almost every time. The events of this game still reinforce my opinion that he will always bus hard, because its what happened.

I mean yeah sorry I misread you, I was really trying, and I know you were too, but its both of our faults here.

you realize how infuriating it feels to be scumread as hard as you read me for seemingly really bullshit reasons that were out of my hands and weren't even true, i hope (allegedly being a partner and getting bussed)

[Charu]

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I would probably say "If you bus me I'm claiming seer with a red on you"

Ooo, feisty!

Add this in your meta pile then, hee hee hee

[Makilaz]

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i mean i feel bad for yelling at you as much as i did but dear lord you got me so riled up i couldn't contain it

[thesunfan]

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OH, THAT REMINDS ME

Dummy said I would make a random kill like killing Toriel.

Honestly, no, it wasn't random.

It was a safe kill, but it wasn't random.

I pretty much proposed to the team "'ey... maybe a PR is just hanging back first phase and not saying anything?"

Toriel fitted that bill, so... off she went.

I can accept being wrong about the exact reasoning, but when I think of a kill you would've made, Toriel was always at the top of the list.

[Makilaz]

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if you had approached this objectively and said "there's always one between plane/napsta for <reasons that have nothing to do with meta>" i would've been much more likely to reevaluate napsta earlier than i did

it pretty much got to the point where it felt like you were arguing that you were right because of course you were right and how dare anyone even consider the fact that you're wrong, and circular reasoning is one of my major pet peeves

[thesunfan]

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you realize how infuriating it feels to be scumread as hard as you read me for seemingly really bullshit reasons that were out of my hands and weren't even true, i hope (allegedly being a partner and getting bussed)

I mean, of course I do, welcome to TWG.

[thesunfan]

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if you had approached this objectively and said "there's always one between plane/napsta for <reasons that have nothing to do with meta>" i would've been much more likely to reevaluate napsta than i did

I feel like I did a lot to show that the meta was essentially foolproof. If Charu buses often because he likes being correct -> his townreads are 100% correct -> it should follow that his scumreads are at the very least mostly correct.

[Charu]

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It's a good thing I made that reads list, huh?

They were, more or less, as accurate as I could make 'em.

*wink*

[thesunfan]

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unless dummy got nightkilled instead of temmie so papyrus could still pretend he was the medic but i guess we'll never know now

because Napsta was not the roleblocker, its pretty easy for Papyrus to kill Temmie and claim he was roleblocked. Its what I would've done. Again, there's no way to know, though

[Charu]

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Remember when you were gloating about how I was red checked too?

I'm surprised I played that phase out without bursting into laughter. OH

By the way...

I was NEVER angry, hee hee.

[Makilaz]

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because Napsta was not the roleblocker, its pretty easy for Papyrus to kill Temmie and claim he was roleblocked. Its what I would've done. Again, there's no way to know, though

i brought this up in a later post when i remembered who was who

[thesunfan]

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Can we talk about that. I think he should get an infraction or something for that.

...really? I'm actually pretty shocked to hear this. It was nothing personal. At that point of the game, I knew you were a wolf, and when I know people are wolves (or have to pretend that they are) I spend a lot of time talking to them when I really shouldn't be (I spent a lot of time talking to Sans, more than I should've). When I know you're a wolf, I don't really have any reason to care about anything you post. I feel like I didn't do anything wrong, maybe if you explain to me why you think it is a punishable action.

[Charu]

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are you fucking kidding me, fuck you greg i'm not reading that wall of text

PS, this is me whenever I see a mega post of death in any TWG game. Replace the name with whoever posted a wall of text.

[Makilaz]

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I feel like I did a lot to show that the meta was essentially foolproof. If Charu buses often because he likes being correct -> his townreads are 100% correct -> it should follow that his scumreads are at the very least mostly correct.

the meta was not foolproof because it led you down the road to thinking i was napsta's partner and given how hard you were gunning for me in the final day i know for a fact you would've insta'd me eventually

why did you give papyrus a free pass, was it because charu nullread him instead of bussing him?