The Christians are Evil?

[xiron]

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I fail to see the good Christians have done, aside from the usual, helping neighbors and the basic things any other person can do, Christians are a bunch of hypocrites IMO. How can you praise God one minute, and call someone a N*#$# of chink the next minute? Not to mention all this missionary bullshit, they call it "spreading the word of God" but theyre just like Jehovas Witnesses (no offense, just making an example XD). They go over to other countries and tell them their God is wrong and theyll go to hell if they dont choose God, who are we to say that Buddah isnt the TRUE God? Who are we to say that Allah doesnt exist?

Saying that all Christians are hypocrites and that all of them spread "missionary bullshit", as you so eloquently put it, is exactly like saying that all Musilms are terrorists, or any other stupid stereotype. That's exactly what it is. A stereotype, a label. Not every single Christian in the world is hypocritical, or intent on spreading their religion. I, being a Christian, prefer to keep my religion to myself most of the time. Sure, there are some who do all the things you mentioned, but the vast majority don't.

[MalReynolds]

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Actually, in Dueteronomy, it says "A man shall not lie with another man as he shall lie with a woman" or something to that extent. And, that can't happen, unless Man B has a Mangina.

Besides, all the gay bashing stuff in the Bible is the Old Testament (Before Jesus/tolerance)... So... Yeah.

Mal

[GuidoHunter]

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The Catholics (which my father is) have offended me by making a homosexual a head priest.

Hwaa? Where did you hear about this? I can't actually believe that this happened, so I'd like to see a source.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[QreepyBORIS]

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Mal, all the stuff pertaining to homosexuality in the Bible is in Leviticus, I am fairly certain (I saw it in context).

But if the Christians are going to follow obscure Bible verses (like the ones pertaining to homosexuality), why don't they follow all the verses in Leviticus as law? Who's up for some animal sacrifice? Child beating, anyone?

[xObserveRx]

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I honestly think most religion bashing comes from people of other religions.

I'm catholic, and i'm not ashamed to admit it. Sure I think my religion has done some really retarded things in the past. They also haven't updated themselves since like the 1700s, and so we look really dumb trying to stay in touch with the present.

I think arguments over religion start with the religious people, not the people who are athiests. Athiests say things and we religious folk get upset about them, and start arguing. No matter who is right, we'll never admit it. Anyways, just wanted to say that.

A lot of people think it is Athiests who start all the crap, I will admit some young stupid people do, but most of the time it's just the religious people diving in there to defend their beliefs.

[GuidoHunter]

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I'm catholic, and i'm not ashamed to admit it. Sure I think my religion has done some really retarded things in the past. They also haven't updated themselves since like the 1700s, and so we look really dumb trying to stay in touch with the present.

COUGH VATICAN II COUGH.

Seriously, man, it was probably the biggest reform in the history of Catholicism. Catholics today are typically pretty liberal, and John Paul II did wonders in "updating" us. Of course, the Church is never going to do anything to change our core principles, like support abortion or anything like that, but I would hardly consider us out of touch or outdated.

It makes me sick that people knock Catholicism because of what it did waaaaaaay, way back when. Does it matter? Not in the slightest when you consider what we're like today.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[MalReynolds]

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Leviticus is the old testament.

Mal

[xObserveRx]

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It's like this:

Back in the day white people forced our religion/beliefs/morals on other people.

Nowadays white people force our hands into other countries supplies such as oil...

How've we changed?

[jewpinthethird]

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How've we changed?

Now we have cool gadgets that we buy off Japanese people.

[Chromer]

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Mal, all the stuff pertaining to homosexuality in the Bible is in Leviticus, I am fairly certain (I saw it in context).

But if the Christians are going to follow obscure Bible verses (like the ones pertaining to homosexuality), why don't they follow all the verses in Leviticus as law? Who's up for some animal sacrifice? Child beating, anyone?

I always questioned getting beatings when I did wrong as a child but of course it says in the bible, "Spare the rod, not the child," or something like that. Man, if kids should get beat for doing wrong what about adults? A belt hurts man. But I'm Black so I should be used to it.

[Hr2]

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I just wish that Christians (the ones I know, I guess my family is technically Catholic, but we don't go to church or anything, and I'm definately not a believer, I'm talking about the ones who preach.) would stop taking everything so literally, and telling me how I think. I remember one of my friends telling me that I believed there was such thing as god inside me. I told him no I didn't, and he said "every atheist denies it but its true.", statements like that I just can't stand.

I have no problems with religion, its just evangelism I hate. I won't bug you about your religion, and you don't bug me about my lack of one.

[eVILPeeR]

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The Christians who force their beliefs onto others are the ones that bother me. Yes, Christians are just normal people and are definitely not "evil". A Christian is somebody with a different set of morals developed from a different set of viewpoints they created with their own faith in a supernatural being known as God.

Does he exist? It doesn't matter. It's all up to you - and it's your choice. Choosing to be Christian is definitely not evil, and the religion is far from that aswell. Just because some stupid things that were decided by people whom are now hundreds of years old, that were made under completely different circumstances.. environments.. communities.. etc etc, doesn't mean the same affects of those decisions apply now. When someone bashes Christianity and uses what Christians have done in the past as an excuse to bash them, they're only looking for an easy way to piss somebody off.

It's a silly idea to think Christianity is wrong. They do plenty good for others, and contribute to society.

Although, it's the people who over-exaggerate the religion and really absorb themselves into it a bit too much that bother me. I know too many good Christians to say that all Christians are evil, and the ones that I don't like I don't converse with. Simple as that.

[Fighterforce32]

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For some reason when I read the parts where it mentioned the 12 year old kids that are mad because they think God cursed them with loving caring parents who don't want them to have sex at the age of 12. That they feel that they should retaliate. That part got me very angry for some reason. I know a lot of stuck up kids who are like that in my school. Just about 2 years older though at the most. Most are 13. Then they curse at the Lord God and same his name in vain amd act like they couldn't care less about when they die and when theres an afterlife. Sorry, I know it's hard to follow my ways of typing. It barely makes sense. But you get the general idea of it. Most kids don't think. They act as if they can screw up their life without consequense. Sure, God won't come down from the heavens and smite you to the ground. But when you die you'll get your just reward. That just gets me mad.

[justaguy]

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The Christians who force their beliefs onto others are the ones that bother me. Yes, Christians are just normal people and are definitely not "evil". A Christian is somebody with a different set of morals developed from a different set of viewpoints they created with their own faith in a supernatural being known as God.

Does he exist? It doesn't matter. It's all up to you - and it's your choice. Choosing to be Christian is definitely not evil, and the religion is far from that aswell. Just because some stupid things that were decided by people whom are now hundreds of years old, that were made under completely different circumstances.. environments.. communities.. etc etc, doesn't mean the same affects of those decisions apply now. When someone bashes Christianity and uses what Christians have done in the past as an excuse to bash them, they're only looking for an easy way to piss somebody off.

It's a silly idea to think Christianity is wrong. They do plenty good for others, and contribute to society.

Although, it's the people who over-exaggerate the religion and really absorb themselves into it a bit too much that bother me. I know too many good Christians to say that all Christians are evil, and the ones that I don't like I don't converse with. Simple as that.

this'll probably be the first time i'll agree with you, lol. people that disrespect other's views of religion and force their view upon another need a punch in the jaw. i absolutely cannot stand dogmatic people. i've been bothered on about 5 different occasions regarding "why i'm wrong about there not being a god" and "i'm not disrespecting your views, i'm doing it to help you because i care about you". now sure, they think they're right and all, but they don't have to shove their shit down my throat.

yeah, i can't go around christian bashing because i have a bunch of christian friends. the one's that've bothered me in the past about my choices regarding religion i have taken the opportunity to block them and never talk to them again, works wonders.

to people that like to flaunt their own opinion regarding religion: shut the fuck up, don't do it, everyone entitled to their own opinion. half of you ******s probably do it without realizing too, i know someone that does it without realizing it to me, they think they're helping me. keep your views to yourself, don't get up in other people's faces about religion, it's not something that should be discussed if you have different views.

to the people with an opinion: you aren't wrong, you aren't right

i choose to keep my opinion regarding religion to myself most of the time. people that flaunt their opinion come off as extremely ignorant to me because they don't have a fucking clue. someone said to me "i can't see it, i can't hear it, i can't smell it, i can't touch it, but i know it's there." i took it upon myself to call them completely ignorant and never talk them about religion again.

as for my opinion: i'm in decisive. being as stubborn as i am, no one will be able to change that, whoever they think they are. until i've seen something with my own eyes, or have been given a damn good logical explanation, i've not come to a conclusion.

that's my 2 cents bitch

[Varia]

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Oh, come on. The violent past of Christianity is completely irrelevant. The girl was talking about present-day Christianity and how it's talked about (in such a community) today.

You still can't deny the good Christians have done. Sure, there were some really bad ideas in its name five hundred years ago, but that's obviously not the point of her post.

Because that definitely had nothing to do with how Christianity was shaped over the years. Where would Christianity be today if it hadn't done those horrible things back in the past? It used fear tactics on a gullible population to increase its numbers. It still uses that same tactic, but in a much less violent way. They don't kill people if they say "No" anymore.