TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

his post railing tokzic before the day started was phenomenal

Yeah don't you think that Tokzic kamikazed, and it's possible a wolf Roundbox would take the opportunity to nail his partner who he knew was going to die?

[dLGN]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

dabackpack [10:54 PM]
rzr is 100% town because whenever I would ask him questions, he would ask me questions in return

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AA and Xiz both answered my questions

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and then dropped off

^^interesting lines

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

the list I provided, that one of those people at least is a wolf, is 100% undeniable

[dLGN]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

Yeah don't you think that Tokzic kamikazed, and it's possible a wolf Roundbox would take the opportunity to nail his partner who he knew was going to die?

what the fuck? the wolves don't get that information before the rest of us, which is why you or whoever actually is a wolf didn't do the same

what the fuck is your logic right now?

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

dabackpack [10:54 PM]
rzr is 100% town because whenever I would ask him questions, he would ask me questions in return

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AA and Xiz both answered my questions

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and then dropped off

^^interesting lines

grats you found a read from days ago

[dLGN]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

answer my question

why do you think CURRENTLY that I think you're a wolf?

that's the dumbest fucking question ever. rzr caliber.

i'm not a wolf. i don't really care what reason you just made up.

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

Hiya, I'm dead and here is my gosh darn death post.

[dLGN]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

cheers charu ^_^

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

what the fuck? the wolves don't get that information before the rest of us, which is why you or whoever actually is a wolf didn't do the same

what the fuck is your logic right now?

ok look

Tokzic died
Tokzic could NOT have possibly died in the space room.
Tokzic could ONLY have died in the Kidz Room.

V ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS GOING IN THE KIDZ ROOM.

TOKZIC GOING IN THAT ROOM MEANT HE KNEW FULL WELL WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

THE WOLVES KNEW.

That post doesn't clear roundbox because, if he's a wolf, HE KNEW THAT TOKZIC WAS GOING TO DIE.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

Yeah don't you think that Tokzic kamikazed, and it's possible a wolf Roundbox would take the opportunity to nail his partner who he knew was going to die?

popping in to say that I didn't consider this scenario where tokzic kamikazes. I'm almost sure tokzic did kamikaze because I see no reason why charu would have taken the kids zone, so my guess is what happened last night is:
V goes into kids zone
tokzic goes into kids zone
tokzic/V die, kids zone seals
charu goes into space space, dies when it is frozen and sealed

also now that charu has flipped town I think xel is looking really bad, his posts this game have been more excuses than actual scumhunting

I think I also forgot to post my conversation with xel, here it is

aragakiayase [7:19 PM] 
Hi


----- December 7th -----
xelnya [2:52 AM] 
you suck

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hai

aragakiayase [11:25 AM] 
so why have you been playing the way you have this game

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you seemed interested at first but you've completely dropped off

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and you backpacked onto the gradiant wagon???

xelnya [3:21 PM] 
It seems like I dropped off because 1 it's OOT and you probably don't know if I've been talking to more people yet because I haven't told you and then you have to account that at the beginning of the game I was on some days off. I'm now working.

​[3:23] 
If you think I'm a literal hindrance 100% I appreciate the honesty, let me know and I'll see if yoshl can get me replaced

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And before you like think I'm taking it personally, I'm not. Don't worry about that.

aragakiayase [3:56 PM] 
I don't think you're a hindrance

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and work is fair and so is OOT

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so have you been PMing other people

xelnya [3:56 PM] 
I've been sparing about it because that's usually my gameplay style anyways. I don't really interact much so I've kept it about where I think it should be.

aragakiayase [3:57 PM] 
why are you trying to maintain a certain amount of interaction???

xelnya [3:57 PM] 
Because a lot of it feels out of place to me

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Like AA, how often do I directly interact with a lot of people other than in game questions and stuff

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usually it's a bunch of gifs

aragakiayase [3:58 PM] 
you don't

xelnya [3:58 PM] 
more than straight talking

aragakiayase [3:58 PM] 
but I haven't really seen you ask questions either

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you've posted a lot

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but when I look most of it is short and filler

xelnya [3:59 PM] 
the thing with this game is

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you can't say that as anyone else

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with solid fact behind it

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like rzr couldn't say that

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they have no idea how I am being in pms and stuff

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It would take a town discussion full throttle to get that cleared and we'd see that coming I think

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At least, that's how it comes off to me.

aragakiayase [5:24 PM] 
I don't understand

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basically you're saying there's no way for anyone to know how much work you're putting in unless everyone talks about it?


----- Yesterday December 8th, 2015 -----
xelnya [2:47 AM] 
The tldr is this

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if someone in game said

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"oi xel is playing his wolf meta"

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They couldn't fucking back it up

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Not with any degree promise anyways

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It would literally take the whole goddamned town

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saying hey who talked to xel

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which atm would only happen

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at one of you fucking promting it

aragakiayase [11:44 AM] 
Convince me you're town because right now I think you're a wolf

aragakiayase [12:02 PM] 
Any reads? Any thoughts?

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Which of the PR claims do you buy and why

xelnya [3:21 PM] 
Best town is V hands down picking up where he did to say we shouldn't lynch the hobo claims

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Starting to kinda doubt tokzic because

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of what V and DBP posted last night

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I wanna see xiz go because he's playing sloppy and I wanna see him punished for it

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Like who the fuck clears someone because they're new, that's just horrible reasoning and is full of assumptions xiz as a plyer should be smart enough to not be making'

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Scummiest people in a row are probably xizu and storn third one I'm not sure of yet

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dbp is prob town due to the convo with v last night

aragakiayase [3:27 PM] 
So you doubt toxzic but want xiz to die more because of his scummy play?

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Or sloppy play?

xelnya [3:27 PM] 
Sloppy play because it's not characteristic of him

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xizu is a gimmicky player not a sloppy one

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But thing with doubting tokzic is

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we can make a move on him should be wrong about xiz, or we COULD do Botchi but no one would ever think that was a good idea so might as well go between those two because that'd get more down I think

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Also realizing how much I meld with v and that's not good now that I actually type my thoughts out

aragakiayase [3:32 PM] 
why is melding with V not good if you townread him?

xelnya [3:34 PM] 
Because mindmelding in general is fine if it's on some things but when it's a lot of them... It just feels bad

aragakiayase [3:34 PM] 
does it? if I mindmeld with someone a lot that makes me feel better about them

xelnya [3:35 PM] 
Sure I can see that, but it feels less like thinking for myself and more like just sitting back, agreeing, and doing nothing

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That is

aragakiayase [3:35 PM] 
ok I can see that

xelnya [3:35 PM] 
if you're like super doing it

aragakiayase [3:35 PM] 
that was what I was going to ask, is it because it feels like you're just backpacking

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so why do you think storn is scum now

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because some things he did struck me as very town

xelnya [3:38 PM] 
Sotrn's been utr whole game to me

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is that read super adjustable yes

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but is there someone better suited to fill that spot atm, to me no.

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But I can concede that one COULD be wrong.

aragakiayase [3:39 PM] 
so you think xiz play is sloppy

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do you think he's scum because of that or that he's just sloppy?

xelnya [3:40 PM] 
Inching it towards because he's being sloppy which isn't characteristic of xiz

aragakiayase [3:40 PM] 
ok but lynching someone because of sloppy play doesn't seem right

xelnya [3:41 PM] 
We do it with RB and Zenith all the time

aragakiayase [3:41 PM] 
unless you think that sloppy play is indicative of them being scum and uncomfortable

xelnya [3:41 PM] 
"which isn't characteristic of xiz"

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That's kinda why I added that

aragakiayase [3:41 PM] 
ok I didn't interpret exactly that way but fine

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if xiz flips town then you think it's tokzic?

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with maybe botchi?

xelnya [3:43 PM] 
I think if Xiz flips town we don't have a choice but to figure out between the two is full of it

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Would start with Tokzic tho because there's already some doubt

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And like I said earlier I think even messing with Botchi is a waste of time

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So in terms of lynch order I think it'll probably be

Xizu, Tokzic / Botchi / Maybe storn? something in that ballpark

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Based on the progression of things and what I think I'd do

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But I has a question for you tho

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What are your thoughts exactly on the convo dbp posted

aragakiayase [3:46 PM] 
with tokzic or v

xelnya [3:46 PM] 
Tokzic

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V is pretty much sold town

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he could tell me to jump, I'd probably ask how high

aragakiayase [3:46 PM] 
it strikes me as weird

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let me look at it again

xelnya [3:47 PM] 
I mean when you say it's weird like out of place, or just " a little conveniant?"

aragakiayase [3:47 PM] 
I mean tokzic has said his motive was to test dbp

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and that he didn't think about whether or not that would actually produce results

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given the timing of when tokzic actually knew he'd be going into the booth

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he may not have had time to think it over carefully

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but it smells

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bad

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tokzic [10:07 PM] 
alright i have a really hard time imagining red just chilling in an exhibit

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so i'm going to go ahead and say you're 90% town

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like those lines don't sound natural

xelnya [3:49 PM] 
Is that directed at you, or a convo with another person

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by tokzic

aragakiayase [3:49 PM] 
that was directed at dbp

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taken from convo withh tokzic

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so when did you come up with these reads

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like V town, xiz scum tokzic fishy storn scummy

xelnya [3:52 PM] 
Come up with them? One does not just come up with reads. One obtains them over time :smile:

aragakiayase [3:52 PM] 
yes

xelnya [3:52 PM] 
lulz

aragakiayase [3:52 PM] 
so at what point in the game did you have these reads

xelnya [3:53 PM] 
The V one has been since he said the thing day 0 about not going through the hobos

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WHICH everyone is kind of ignoring

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But that was literally a "guys let's not sink time into this yetbecause more data later would be better for this so we're not mislynching"

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is sorta the approach he has

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I think

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Storn I haven't really liked all game

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Xiz I started to really dislike where noted in the thread with the head slap gif

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Because that line of thought

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is just awful

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clearing people because they're new

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It's like

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would you clear me in a game for busing a partner to death because it's the first time I'd done it

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No you wouldn't

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you'd be suspect as hell about that yes?

aragakiayase [3:56 PM] 
yeah

xelnya [3:57 PM] 
kay so I have to get ready for work now but yeh leave some stuff if you want and I'll get back to you when I get home

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I will HOPEFULLY be there for EoD

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Because phones but I won't be in slack

aragakiayase [3:58 PM] 
ok

xelnya [3:58 PM] 
So if you see anything super important paste it to me on skype plz

aragakiayase [3:58 PM] 
one more question to leave you with

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if you've had these reads building why don't you say anything

xelnya [3:58 PM] 
Canada is the answer

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Because saying something is not important unless I immensely disagree at this point in time. If I feel a need to stop us from going the wrong way then I'll say something

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Plus it's not like I can hard back these up without some of the peoples from OOT talking to me a little. Which I should start bugging them since they won't come to me

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I must be scary or something

aragakiayase [4:00 PM] 
ok well it has the side effect of making you seem like you're trying to stay UTR

xelnya [4:00 PM] 
Can't say that's wrong

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Off to get ready now tho

aragakiayase [4:01 PM] 
ok


----- Today December 9th, 2015 -----
aragakiayase [4:42 PM] 
tokzic or botchi

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

that's the dumbest fucking question ever. rzr caliber.

i'm not a wolf. i don't really care what reason you just made up.

Reading comprehension

you said "Dabackpack is wrong about dlgn"

I'm asking for what this means

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

here, i'll do some scumhunting. you have awful reads this game, backpack. i hard cleared you but it looks like you were wrong on AA, you're wrong on me, you (and I) were wrong on xiz, and roundbox looks VERY good right now. you were also checked by the wolf, and I now won't put much stock into that check.

I think you could easily be a wolf.

for your reference

[dLGN]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

oh i didn't see you bolded a part of my post

[dLGN]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

that trade is interesting.. idk, like did tokzic never see him not getting lynched over botchi so a trade is always best there?

hmph. it is very limiting for the wolf team, though. the movie stalker can't move. the other has to go to the AC room to freeze someone.

we need to send 1 unconfirmed into the sec booth each night. it's 1kp for wolves max, that they have to take, basically, and it removes a question mark from the game

[dLGN]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

and backpack despite my hard defenses of you you've continued to throw my name out there in weird places. you shouldn't be so unsure about me, imo. combined with all of the above that doesn't look so hot for you, i'm just no longer sure you're town.