botchi what is this referring to, at the top of your log? "would be fun I think"
this is from the first day i believe, and i didnt know that i had so many messages with dlgn. here is the unabridged chat with dlgn from very beginning up to this point
dlgn [1:19 AM]
because I will try to put them in touch with each other
botchi246 [1:19 AM]
How would they contact each other
dlgn [1:19 AM]
if both claim to me
[1:19]
I can tell each of them who the other is
botchi246 [1:19 AM]
Id be scared if i was an hg to tell anyone
dlgn [1:20 AM]
why?
[1:20]
mafia can't do anything about it
botchi246 [1:21 AM]
Unless ur a mafia
[1:21]
Then its rip
dlgn [1:21 AM]
is it?
[1:21]
ok say I am mafia
[1:21]
and you are a homeless guy
[1:21]
and you claim to me
[1:21]
what do I do?
[1:21]
i can't kill you
[1:21]
i can't really do anything to you
[1:21]
idk if i can really manipulate you either
botchi246 [1:22 AM]
Why cant you do anything
dlgn [1:23 AM]
because the way the night kills work
[1:23]
mafia pick a room but I can't really control what you do
[1:23]
and the homeless guys have some funky thing where they can get out of certain rooms anyway
botchi246 [1:24 AM]
They survive one time if their room gets frozen
dlgn [1:25 AM]
yeah
[1:25]
so like if i am mafia and want to kill you
[1:25]
i could tell you to go to a certain room and then freeze it
[1:25]
but would you continue to trust me?
[1:25]
i think you would be likely to go to everybody else in the thread
[1:25]
and just claim
botchi246 [1:26 AM]
Yah that
dlgn [1:26 AM]
and say that you've used up your one survival and are skeptical of me
botchi246 [1:26 AM]
I would be all over that
dlgn [1:26 AM]
so I think there is little value to doing what I am proposing as mafia
botchi246 [1:26 AM]
Im pretty much skeptical of everyone
dlgn [1:26 AM]
that's fine
botchi246 [1:28 AM]
Who do you think is hg
dlgn [1:28 AM]
no clue lol
[1:29]
maybe you
[1:29]
you seem to be trying to feel me out
[1:29]
and you seem to know more about that role than anything else
[1:29]
like you knew nothing about the movie stalker
[1:29]
but you knew the thing about surviving one freeze about the homeless guy
[1:29]
so, yeah, maybe you
botchi246 [1:30 AM]
Haha i read the op
dlgn [1:30 AM]
perhaps
botchi246 [1:30 AM]
I was just enthralled by hg role
dlgn [1:30 AM]
fair enough
botchi246 [1:30 AM]
I like it
[1:30]
Its cool
botchi246 [2:18 AM]
Why you gotta post that
dlgn [2:22 AM]
i don't think the game is so heated :stuck_out_tongue:
botchi246 [2:24 AM]
Haha im just trying to launch it
[2:27]
What do you think about backpack
dlgn [2:27 AM]
like him a lot!
botchi246 [2:28 AM]
I say townie 40?
[2:28]
%
dlgn [2:28 AM]
mm more imo
botchi246 [2:28 AM]
Wolf 60%
dlgn [2:28 AM]
wow
[2:28]
why?
botchi246 [2:28 AM]
I think he is trying to stay aloof
[2:28]
No real substantial posts
[2:28]
Already voted and renegged
dlgn [2:29 AM]
that's funny, i think rzr used the aloof thing about roundbox
[2:29]
have you made any substantial posts?! :^)
botchi246 [2:29 AM]
Round is on the fence for me
[2:29]
I guess not
[2:29]
Haha
dlgn [2:29 AM]
botchi246 [2:29 AM]
I like this game though
dlgn [2:30 AM]
yeah I'm enjoying it so far
[2:30]
more than I expected to
botchi246 [2:30 AM]
Ill try to stay alive as long as possible
[2:30]
Given my role; )
dlgn [2:30 AM]
mafia have to survive to win!
botchi246 [2:31 AM]
True dat
dlgn [2:31 AM]
loool
botchi246 [2:32 AM]
I kinda wanna out myself
[2:32]
But nooo
dlgn [2:32 AM]
are you really the HG?
botchi246 [2:32 AM]
Haha who knows
dlgn [2:32 AM]
i wouldn't say if I were you, yet
botchi246 [2:32 AM]
Cept me
dlgn [2:32 AM]
lol
botchi246 [2:33 AM]
Am i messing with you
dlgn [2:33 AM]
i mean i think you are either the HG or just plain town, but either way I think you are with me
[2:33]
yes
[2:33]
a bit
botchi246 [2:33 AM]
Haha good to know
dlgn [2:34 AM]
like honestly i find roles kinda boring in mafia, i'd totally play games without them
botchi246 [2:34 AM]
How can i be sure you are townie
dlgn [2:34 AM]
but if there are roles I like ones that are more utility roles or take some craftiness to play well
[2:34]
you can't be
botchi246 [2:35 AM]
Make me sure
dlgn [2:35 AM]
but I really enjoy scumhunting setups (ones without cops that get perfect information from the mod)
[2:35]
and I think it's pretty clear I am enjoying myself and really into this game
[2:35]
think I've posted and been talking about the game all day
botchi246 [2:35 AM]
I know im enjoying it
[2:35]
Thats clear
dlgn [2:35 AM]
haha
[2:35]
and possibly alcohol enhanced?
botchi246 [2:36 AM]
Indeed
dlgn [2:36 AM]
lol
botchi246 [2:36 AM]
But still lol
[2:36]
So fun
dlgn [2:36 AM]
yup
botchi246 [2:36 AM]
Even funner
[2:36]
More fun
dlgn [2:36 AM]
i guess you could ask yourself
[2:36]
what value do I get townreading you so early off of so little
botchi246 [2:36 AM]
Little
dlgn [2:36 AM]
i don't know you, I don't know if you are easy to pocket or not
[2:36]
yeah
[2:36]
I truly believe it
[2:37]
i'm not really concerned about the pressure on me, I am not trying to buy your vote with my life on the line
[2:37]
and I don't think it would be easy to flip on you without some really weird stuff going down
botchi246 [2:37 AM]
But what value can i place on you tgat you are town
dlgn [2:37 AM]
eh... idk, I think I am a good player
botchi246 [2:38 AM]
I think i am too given short status
dlgn [2:38 AM]
but I am expendable, I guess
[2:38]
the stuff at night is kinda a guessing game
botchi246 [2:38 AM]
I dont like to think im expendable
dlgn [2:38 AM]
i mean you could really coordinate it but idk if I want to talk and deal with many people
[2:38]
too risky
botchi246 [2:39 AM]
I wanna talk to everyone
dlgn [2:39 AM]
well I will defend myself very well
[2:39]
and i doubt ill ever get lynched
[2:39]
but if I die due to a bad guess at night it happens
botchi246 [2:39 AM]
Haha unless its first day
dlgn [2:39 AM]
and hopefully important people survive and solve the game
[2:39]
yeah that would kinda suck
botchi246 [2:40 AM]
When you die can you still post and chat
dlgn [2:40 AM]
hmm i doubt it
botchi246 [2:40 AM]
What do you know from your experience
dlgn [2:40 AM]
almost certainly no, you can't
[2:40]
because some people get spoilers
botchi246 [2:41 AM]
I get that
dlgn [2:41 AM]
and the general idea is when you die that takes you away from being able to help solve the game
[2:41]
so no
[2:41]
it's less important here with the way people die at nigh
[2:41]
night*
[2:41]
but dying is dying as far as the game is concerned, and I don't think you can contribute after that happens
[2:41]
in general if you have questions i'd just ask the mod directly
botchi246 [2:42 AM]
I like your contributions
dlgn [2:42 AM]
ty
botchi246 [2:42 AM]
Favorite by far
dlgn [2:42 AM]
haha cool
[2:42]
pocket successful!!
[2:42]
botchi246 [2:42 AM]
Hahaha
[2:42]
Im townie
[2:42]
Im wolf
[2:42]
Im hg
dlgn [2:42 AM]
lol
[2:42]
ur troll
[2:42]
it was easy to tell
botchi246 [2:42 AM]
Hahaha the dirtiest
dlgn [2:43 AM]
i mean I figured that out damn fast
botchi246 [2:43 AM]
I think ill say that in main chat
dlgn [2:43 AM]
I think I am reading the game well, lol
botchi246 [2:43 AM]
I like oot
[2:43]
C
dlgn [2:43 AM]
yeah it's fun
botchi246 [2:44 AM]
Haha you still really dont know who i am
dlgn [2:44 AM]
nope
[2:44]
do you know me?
[2:44]
or do you mean your role?
botchi246 [2:45 AM]
Both lol
dlgn [2:45 AM]
really??
botchi246 [2:45 AM]
Do you even play ffr
dlgn [2:45 AM]
nope
botchi246 [2:45 AM]
Dang
[2:45]
You should
[2:45]
So fun
dlgn [2:45 AM]
idk what it is haha
botchi246 [2:46 AM]
Come on really
dlgn [2:46 AM]
lol
[2:46]
now I get to be the newbie
[2:46]
WATS A FFR?
botchi246 [2:46 AM]
You could play rzr
dlgn [2:46 AM]
SOUNDS SO FUN!
botchi246 [2:46 AM]
He sucks too
dlgn [2:46 AM]
lmaooo
botchi246 [2:47 AM]
Im pretty simple once you get to know me
dlgn [2:47 AM]
i mean it kinda sounds like dance dance revolution
botchi246 [2:47 AM]
Rzr joined ffr for tqg
dlgn [2:47 AM]
but idk what it is
botchi246 [2:47 AM]
Tqg
[2:47]
Twg
dlgn [2:47 AM]
yeah i did too I guess
botchi246 [2:47 AM]
Its ddr for fingers basically
dlgn [2:47 AM]
ah ok
[2:47]
i play magic piano lol
[2:48]
that's kinda similar?
botchi246 [2:48 AM]
Yah
[2:48]
Im a beast on that game
dlgn [2:48 AM]
oh nice
botchi246 [2:48 AM]
Do you play an actual instruments
dlgn [2:48 AM]
no
[2:48]
:disappointed:
[2:48]
i wish i did
botchi246 [2:48 AM]
I play piano and druma
[2:48]
S
[2:49]
And the wolfy pan flute
dlgn [2:49 AM]
nice!! i'm jealous
[2:49]
i played viola for 1 year lol
[2:49]
wish i could play piano and guitar
[2:50]
moonlight sonata III. presto agitato is my fav song to play on magic piano
[2:50]
have 16512 score on that
[2:50]
but I doubt that is very good
botchi246 [2:52 AM]
Its good. I havent played that game in so long
[2:52]
You should get cytus on phone
[2:52]
Its great rhythm game
dlgn [2:58 AM]
ill look into it, thanks!
botchi246 [2:59 AM]
Im starting some fire with xel
dlgn [2:59 AM]
ya i just saw lol
botchi246 [2:59 AM]
And xiz hopefully
[2:59]
So excited
dlgn [2:59 AM]
i found that post funny, actually, lol
botchi246 [2:59 AM]
Tryna get aome heat going
[3:00]
Result of inebriation most likely
dlgn [3:00 AM]
ima pretend like you're my homeless guy partner
[3:00]
i'll drink more tmw and have fun with it :simple_smile:
botchi246 [3:15 AM]
Haha ok
[3:15]
Are you drinking tonight
dlgn [3:16 AM]
had a glass of wine and a beer but otherwise no
botchi246 [3:17 AM]
How old are you
dlgn [3:18 AM]
27
[3:18]
u?
botchi246 [3:18 AM]
26
dlgn [3:18 AM]
where from?
botchi246 [3:18 AM]
Im in florida now but im from denver
dlgn [3:19 AM]
ew florida so wolfy
botchi246 [3:19 AM]
Hahah
[3:19]
No wolvea in fl i assure you
dlgn [3:19 AM]
my ex lives in florida lol, it's nice tho
[3:20]
i've spent like 15 years in atlanta
[3:20]
so not too far
botchi246 [3:20 AM]
Eww atlanta
[3:20]
So falcony
dlgn [3:20 AM]
yup haha
botchi246 [3:21 AM]
Denver is the shizz
[3:21]
Legal reefer
dlgn [3:21 AM]
i bet
[3:22]
ya that and skiing / snowboarding like omg
[3:22]
and red rocks omg
botchi246 [3:23 AM]
Haha yah been to red rocks
[3:23]
Multiple times
dlgn [3:23 AM]
oh wow who'd you see?
[3:23]
i def want to see a show there in my life
botchi246 [3:23 AM]
I saw arctic monkeys
[3:24]
And deamau5
dlgn [3:24 AM]
nice!
botchi246 [3:24 AM]
Deadmau5
[3:24]
Im an avid skier /snowboarder
dlgn [3:24 AM]
even better
botchi246 [3:24 AM]
But i just had acl surgery so this year is afk for me
dlgn [3:24 AM]
i enjoy it but am no good
[3:24]
aww fuck
[3:24]
no fun
botchi246 [3:25 AM]
Im pretty salty about it
dlgn [3:25 AM]
i bet, injure it on the slopes or something random?
botchi246 [3:26 AM]
Was playing basketball in paris lol
dlgn [3:26 AM]
lol...
botchi246 [3:26 AM]
Shame
dlgn [3:26 AM]
yeah hope it heals up well
botchi246 [3:27 AM]
Its going well
[3:27]
Im walking after 3 days
[3:27]
So good so far
dlgn [3:27 AM]
nice nice
botchi246 [3:28 AM]
Where you from
dlgn [3:28 AM]
in philly now
botchi246 [3:28 AM]
Oh geez cold af
dlgn [3:28 AM]
lived all over the place, seattle, atlanta, richmond mostly
[3:29]
atlanta the most
[3:29]
ur from CO how is philly cold lol
botchi246 [3:29 AM]
I lived in raleigh denver and tampa
dlgn [3:29 AM]
all solid places
[3:29]
your fav denver?
botchi246 [3:30 AM]
I love Seattle though
[3:30]
Denver fav by far
dlgn [3:30 AM]
yeah i loved seattle too, lived there from 2 years old to 8
[3:30]
never been back since moving away :disappointed:
botchi246 [3:31 AM]
Offically wolf
dlgn [3:31 AM]
lol
botchi246 [3:31 AM]
XD
dlgn [3:32 AM]
i wish i could play a wolf game like this
here is my chat with xelnya tonight, or this morning rather
botchi246 [3:01 AM]
sup xel
xelnya [3:01 AM]
... How the shit did you know I was on
[3:01]
lol
botchi246 [3:01 AM]
cuz green bubble on right
[3:02]
and im outside your window
[3:02]
watching
[3:02]
waiting
xelnya [3:02 AM]
... You don't even know where I live
[3:02]
PLUS JOKE IS ON YOU. I'M IN THE WINDOW OF YOUR HAUS
botchi246 [3:02 AM]
prolly canada or something
xelnya [3:02 AM]
Canada is like a 6 hour drive from me apperantly
[3:02]
At least that's what T-force told me
[3:02]
when he came and visted once
[3:03]
Anyways, 'sup
botchi246 [3:03 AM]
washington then
xelnya [3:03 AM]
Actually yes.
botchi246 [3:03 AM]
nice
[3:03]
it was either that or new york
xelnya [3:03 AM]
DAMN I COULD HAVE BEEN A NEW YORKER
botchi246 [3:03 AM]
thoughts on today?
xelnya [3:04 AM]
tbh
botchi246 [3:04 AM]
dat slim tokzic screwed me
[3:04]
slime*
xelnya [3:04 AM]
I think xiz getting lynched should happen out of principle
[3:04]
because clearing you just for being new is sloppy as fuck
[3:04]
and xizu is not a sloppy player
botchi246 [3:04 AM]
haha
[3:04]
i guess you would know
xelnya [3:05 AM]
However him being an actual hobo
[3:05]
only confuses me more
botchi246 [3:05 AM]
yah dat sucks
[3:05]
we lost a pr
xelnya [3:05 AM]
because Xiz should have played the whole game differently
[3:05]
and yes
[3:05]
the loss of that PR is super bad
botchi246 [3:06 AM]
what to do what to do
xelnya [3:06 AM]
Thing is first off the seer booth thing to what I skimmed has a plan, that's good
botchi246 [3:07 AM]
what that plan wth AA choosing?
xelnya [3:07 AM]
More like the arrangement he already made from what I saw?
botchi246 [3:08 AM]
i feel bad for xiz anyways
[3:08]
tokzic had me in his pocket so deep i was pickin out lint
[3:08]
shame shame
xelnya [3:08 AM]
I feel bad it was a mislynch but tbh if I didn't work today I'd have spent all day drilling his head to stop just auto clearing you for such simple reasons
[3:09]
Like do i disagree or agree with his conclusion was irrelevant
[3:09]
the issue is the reasoning was just bad
[3:09]
If you had played say
[3:09]
3 games with us before this one
botchi246 [3:09 AM]
you mean, not enough to back it up?
xelnya [3:09 AM]
and played it the exact same
[3:09]
You'd have been lynched early I think
botchi246 [3:09 AM]
why is that
xelnya [3:10 AM]
I wanna explain this in a weird way so forgive me but
botchi246 [3:10 AM]
np
xelnya [3:10 AM]
Aside from getting pocketed by Tokzic this game what exactly have you been doing
[3:11]
Because your forum presense is about as lack luster as my own.
botchi246 [3:11 AM]
not much ill be honest
[3:11]
i been trying to keep up though
xelnya [3:11 AM]
Which makes me both a hypocrite and makes this somewhat Ironic
botchi246 [3:11 AM]
im gonna try and have a more active role now
xelnya [3:11 AM]
You're gonna need to
botchi246 [3:11 AM]
cuz if i dont, its gonna be bad potatoes
[3:12]
i need to start doing some research
[3:12]
if i had some background with yall it would help, but since i dont... i gotta work with what i am given
xelnya [3:13 AM]
The trick to playing with people you've not played with if you asked me
[3:13]
is to not make assumptions
[3:13]
Don't try to use any spoon fed meta
[3:13]
Which is why
[3:13]
I wanted to grill xizu
[3:13]
so fuckin' hard
[3:13]
and why I asked charu why
botchi246 [3:13 AM]
really, i just been backpacking on people i like as town and going with their thoughts
[3:14]
which prolly doesnt sound too good
xelnya [3:14 AM]
So the first thing I think for you
[3:14]
Is to anihilate all thoughts you have on everyone in the game atm
[3:14]
And start off with a null on everyone
botchi246 [3:14 AM]
start fresh
[3:14]
except for tokzic cuz now i know
xelnya [3:14 AM]
Then reread their thread posts and whatever convos you've had with them
botchi246 [3:15 AM]
do you think tokzic is bad
[3:15]
i mean i get the feeling you do
[3:15]
ughh i dont wanna go back through that wholeee thread
[3:15]
like 70 pages
[3:15]
but i know i need to
xelnya [3:16 AM]
"i mean i get the feeling you do"
I kinda have to state for the moment that I haven't told you which way I lean at all
[3:16]
In fact you'd probably have to assume you're kinda the one I don't trust based on me wanting to grill xiz and charu
[3:16]
At least I think
[3:16]
However I'm in a toss up
[3:16]
I don't know you
botchi246 [3:16 AM]
well actually im at the point where i dont think anyone really trusts me
xelnya [3:16 AM]
you and I have not talked much
[3:16]
Your presense in game is rather much lacking
botchi246 [3:17 AM]
once again thats mutual though
xelnya [3:17 AM]
So I don't have anything to sell me either way
[3:17]
That's true
[3:17]
However is this convo starting to be a good step in the right direction
[3:17]
I think so
botchi246 [3:17 AM]
i am excited to see how heated this game gets though
xelnya [3:17 AM]
Because you seem to be honest enough
botchi246 [3:17 AM]
cuz i was already thinking this wasnt the game for me
xelnya [3:17 AM]
Like tbh I don't think you'd lie to me atm
botchi246 [3:18 AM]
until today really
xelnya [3:18 AM]
because you seem scared of things going backwards
[3:18]
and them trusting tokzic over you
botchi246 [3:18 AM]
fricken tokzic
xelnya [3:18 AM]
I think that's phrased poorly on my end
[3:18]
But you get where I'm going I suppose.
botchi246 [3:18 AM]
yah i get it
[3:18]
its crazy how everyone picks apart every little thing
[3:18]
where the words are
xelnya [3:18 AM]
That's how this game woprks
[3:19]
works*
botchi246 [3:19 AM]
what emotion behind them
xelnya [3:19 AM]
The thing to really understand is
[3:19]
is someone calls you a shit fucking bitch
[3:19]
they don't genuinely mean it
[3:19]
XD
[3:19]
Well
botchi246 [3:19 AM]
lol shit fucking bitch
xelnya [3:19 AM]
sometimes I mean it
[3:19]
To certain people
[3:19]
I'll be the first to admit I'm rather blunt
[3:19]
But I guess another thing to note is
botchi246 [3:20 AM]
im sure there are many secondsd there
xelnya [3:20 AM]
where did you start before the tokzic lynch with your town and scum pile
botchi246 [3:20 AM]
ok
[3:20]
scum: xiz, aa cuz he was backing xiz,
xelnya [3:20 AM]
Ok
[3:20]
stop for a sec
botchi246 [3:21 AM]
ok
xelnya [3:21 AM]
With AA, do you still think that
[3:21]
after the flip now
botchi246 [3:21 AM]
well now that xiz is lynched
[3:21]
and aa had changed his vote to tokzic
[3:21]
i would say he leans towards town
[3:21]
but he changed his vote at the last minute last time
[3:21]
kinda rings in my ear
[3:22]
right now he is in limbo for me
[3:22]
until i get some more info
xelnya [3:22 AM]
That's a good start to work from, you don't like AA based on things you saw yourself
botchi246 [3:23 AM]
and ill be sure to bring that up to him tomorrow when i see him on
[3:23]
and now he is sort of the leader
xelnya [3:23 AM]
I think a one on one would be good works
botchi246 [3:23 AM]
which could be dangerous
[3:23]
cuz tokzic was leader last round
[3:23]
and we all saw what happened
[3:24]
as for town
[3:24]
dlgn is still town for me and rzr
[3:24]
but i think i need to throw that out
xelnya [3:24 AM]
See rzr has kinda fallen a little because didn't he vote you this phase or is my memory fuzzy
botchi246 [3:25 AM]
cuz those are the two people who ihave talked to about things other than twg
[3:25]
he voted me both phases
[3:25]
to get me to speak up
[3:25]
im not sure if he left it on me
[3:25]
lemme check
[3:26]
he switched to storn
[3:26]
and storn has been so quiet
xelnya [3:27 AM]
See I'd nit pick the quiet people
[3:27]
But I am admittedly one of them
[3:28]
unless you get me when I'm on lol
[3:28]
then
[3:28]
Ispam
botchi246 [3:28 AM]
he has been sorta active itt though
xelnya [3:28 AM]
so hard
botchi246 [3:28 AM]
charu is town to me
xelnya [3:28 AM]
Also
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I wanna iterate that
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I personally think V is the most town player in the game
[3:29]
objectively
botchi246 [3:29 AM]
unless he and tokzic are really playing the game super hard
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well hold on, maybe charu is a wolf
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cuz they were going back and forth in thread right after lynch was announced
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could be orchestrated
xelnya [3:32 AM]
everything could be
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Shit chat logs are allowed to be faked
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as long as it's not in screen shot form
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I think?
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Let me go check that actually
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It's been months since I reread the rules
botchi246 [3:32 AM]
backpack was talking about that a bit itt
xelnya [3:32 AM]
even if they're years out of date
botchi246 [3:33 AM]
cuz he said either mine or tokzics was changed
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