TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

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  • dLGN
    FFR Player
    • Feb 2015
    • 8

    #1156
    Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

    oh lmao who gives 3 names of town like that hahaha

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    • roundbox
      fhqwhgads
      • Feb 2005
      • 2085

      #1157
      Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

      Originally posted by dLGN
      oh lmao who gives 3 names of town like that hahaha
      I did you want to fight about it?
      Originally posted by the sun fan
      I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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      • roundbox
        fhqwhgads
        • Feb 2005
        • 2085

        #1158
        Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

        Botchi, are you getting bad vibes from anyone aside from Xiz?
        Originally posted by the sun fan
        I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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        • botchi246
          Keepin it Real since '05
          • Mar 2005
          • 614

          #1159
          Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

          Well since i am suspect of storn for being so aloof in this game, but that could just be town and not trying at all. AA is more scum than null to me based on all the conversation i have read. Last but not least, prolly most, is xel. I have seen some odd exchanges, I mean we all have, and they definitely point my compass to wolf.

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          • roundbox
            fhqwhgads
            • Feb 2005
            • 2085

            #1160
            Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

            Originally posted by botchi246
            Well since i am suspect of storn for being so aloof in this game, but that could just be town and not trying at all. AA is more scum than null to me based on all the conversation i have read. Last but not least, prolly most, is xel. I have seen some odd exchanges, I mean we all have, and they definitely point my compass to wolf.
            On AA: is there a conversation in particular that sets your radars to scum?
            Originally posted by the sun fan
            I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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            • XelNya
              [Kaho]
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Sep 2012
              • 3369

              #1161
              Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

              Originally posted by botchi246
              Last but not least, prolly most, is xel. I have seen some odd exchanges, I mean we all have, and they definitely point my compass to wolf.
              Which ones in particular are "odd" because I'm not really feelin' it

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              • DaBackpack
                ~ お ま ん こ ~
                • Mar 2014
                • 918

                #1162
                Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                tokzic [10:04 PM]
                where did you hide last night

                dabackpack [10:04 PM]
                dino den

                tokzic [10:05 PM]
                THAT'S RIGHT

                dabackpack [10:05 PM]
                ?

                ​[10:05]
                dinos are fuckin awesome

                tokzic [10:05 PM]
                seering was on you haha

                dabackpack [10:05 PM]
                lmao

                ​[10:05]
                thx

                tokzic [10:07 PM]
                alright i have a really hard time imagining red just chilling in an exhibit

                ​[10:08]
                so i'm going to go ahead and say you're 90% town



                ^^^ convo with Tokzic


                Originally posted by Moogy
                no one cares
                Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                that's kind of a sad statistic

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                • DaBackpack
                  ~ お ま ん こ ~
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 918

                  #1163
                  Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                  there's no way to validate that tokzic knew where I hid


                  Originally posted by Moogy
                  no one cares
                  Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                  there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                  that's kind of a sad statistic

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                  • DaBackpack
                    ~ お ま ん こ ~
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 918

                    #1164
                    Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                    because I fucked up


                    Originally posted by Moogy
                    no one cares
                    Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                    there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                    that's kind of a sad statistic

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                    • Vendetta21
                      Sectional Moderator
                      Sectional Moderator
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 2745

                      #1165
                      Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                      my only thought is that that is extremely wolfy

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                      • Vendetta21
                        Sectional Moderator
                        Sectional Moderator
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2745

                        #1166
                        Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                        tokzic

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                        • Vendetta21
                          Sectional Moderator
                          Sectional Moderator
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2745

                          #1167
                          Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                          a couple other things:
                          1.) tokzic is absent and apparently totally uninterested in what happens this phase, which is weird because he made a plan yesterday, come out as the leader of the human alliance, and wanted to coordinate people's plays.

                          2.) as xiz pointed out, it was weird for tokzic to not reveal that another hobo had come out to him. he should have announced it as soon as it happened, withholding that information signals he knew that another still needed to come out to him and he was trying to control the situation. revealing that another hobo had come out to him immediately confirms him as a hobo without question and validates the 2nd claim he already has. not confirming this publicly shows either malign intent or a lack of healthy skepticism.

                          3.) tokzic asked me multiple times to let the hobos have the kidz room but never contacted me directly to request it as he was a hobo, but was fixated on me taking it for a good chunk of day 1 before revealing. he told multiple people in conversations later that it frustrated him, on the premise that "hobos should hold onto their powers for as long as possible" which coincides with a strategy to fakeclaim early when you hope to kill off one hobo before your death. (regardless that it's a premise i don't agree with because it seems counter-intuitive.)

                          @botchi, did tokzic tell you where to go last night? did you ever ask for the security booth? do you think it would have made more sense last night for tokzic to give you the security booth given that both xiz and tokzic considered your claim geniune?

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                          • Vendetta21
                            Sectional Moderator
                            Sectional Moderator
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 2745

                            #1168
                            Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                            what brought me to questioning this phase's progression is how similar the progression is towards xiz's death to the progression toward's gradients death yesterday. it feels like everything is coasting. that feels wrong. something is wrong.

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                            • AragakiAyase
                              Waifus
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 961

                              #1169
                              Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                              Originally posted by Vendetta21
                              what brought me to questioning this phase's progression is how similar the progression is towards xiz's death to the progression toward's gradients death yesterday. it feels like everything is coasting. that feels wrong. something is wrong.
                              I'm the only one who seems to believe xiz could be human

                              pikakirby123 reincarnated





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                              • Tokzic
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2005
                                • 6878

                                #1170
                                Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                                v what am i even reading

                                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                                1.) tokzic is absent and apparently totally uninterested in what happens this phase, which is weird because he made a plan yesterday, come out as the leader of the human alliance, and wanted to coordinate people's plays.
                                I don't get why you keep trying to make me out like I'm not here. I was playing the game heavily for like 3 hours last night. I've consistently played about that much every day since this game started. That's "absent" to you? You also tried to tell people I was absent the night before on the Slack playing DotA, which for the SECOND TIME was completely untrue.

                                You might be sensing a lack of passion I often have when playing TWG. I am sleeping poorly, and to be completely honest, in a pretty terrible mental state. You're not entirely off the mark that I'm less interested than usual in the game, but that's not because of the game - that's because I'm less interested in everything than usual.

                                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                                2.) as xiz pointed out, it was weird for tokzic to not reveal that another hobo had come out to him. he should have announced it as soon as it happened, withholding that information signals he knew that another still needed to come out to him and he was trying to control the situation. revealing that another hobo had come out to him immediately confirms him as a hobo without question and validates the 2nd claim he already has. not confirming this publicly shows either malign intent or a lack of healthy skepticism.
                                This whole case is bunk. I did immediately reveal when I had one extra hobo claim on the table. You apparently need to reread these logs.

                                1) I came out in the thread.
                                2) Botchi immediately came out to me in private.
                                3) Xiz "softed" that he was hobo. I try to ask him if that's what he's doing, but he denies it.
                                xiz [6:37 PM]
                                so NOBODY came out to him

                                ​[6:37]
                                right

                                tokzic [6:39 PM]
                                YOU BET!!

                                ​[6:39]
                                dlgn [6:32 PM]
                                here's the part where I come clean as soon as possible: I said one had claimed to me in hopes that one finally would take me up on the offer, but none have :disappointed:

                                ​[6:32]
                                you were on my shortlist for possible HG's, though

                                ​[6:33]
                                i think I made that clear when I initially messaged you, lmao

                                xiz [6:40 PM]
                                zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

                                ​[6:40]
                                well that sucks lol

                                ​[6:40]
                                i would have been excited if one did

                                tokzic [6:41 PM]
                                because you're my hobobro and we would have caught a wolf?

                                xiz [6:42 PM]
                                no im a wolf

                                ​[6:42]
                                i just want to be the lone wolf

                                4) Several hours later, right before phase end and right as his life is in danger, only then does he finally hardclaim.
                                5) I immediately make it public that we have too many hobo claims.

                                Where exactly did I withhold information? Are you seriously arguing that I should have gone public over Xiz's soft claim, when he wouldn't hard even when I asked him to? Because I don't think you are.

                                And for the record, I did have a dose of healthy skepticism for botchi at first, but it took all of two other chat logs of his with other people to dispel them.

                                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                                3.) tokzic asked me multiple times to let the hobos have the kidz room but never contacted me directly to request it as he was a hobo, but was fixated on me taking it for a good chunk of day 1 before revealing. he told multiple people in conversations later that it frustrated him, on the premise that "hobos should hold onto their powers for as long as possible" which coincides with a strategy to fakeclaim early when you hope to kill off one hobo before your death. (regardless that it's a premise i don't agree with because it seems counter-intuitive.)
                                Why the fuck should I have to contact you directly? I addressed you directly, repeatedly, in both the thread and the Slack channel, and you blew it off every time. So I gave up and decided I'd just use a bathroom charge instead, since you showed zero signs of changing your plan

                                Also, this rubbed me the wrong way: You messaged me to let me use the Kidz Zone a few hours before EOD on D1. But you didn't do it on Slack, which I was online on for the last several hours of the phase. You did it on Steam, which I was offline on, specifically because I didn't want to be distracted from the game. And now you're giving me shit for not contacting you?

                                And how exactly is it counter-intuitive? I'm pretty sure that having two freezeproof hobos in a group of five players is objectively better than having two freezeproof hobos in a group of ten players. But please correct me if I'm wrong.

                                Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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