What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

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  • ShadowDueler97
    scarhand pls
    • Mar 2012
    • 547

    #16
    Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

    280 bpm stream is probably at the top of my comfort zone. I should do some more testing on this.


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    • mrpreggers
      D7 Elite Keymasher
      • Feb 2011
      • 3395

      #17
      Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

      idk probably 15-20 nps

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      • Leo137
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2012
        • 422

        #18
        Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

        18-21 nps i guess

        But im really blocked with JS's that has jumps every 8th note. i find them quite anyoing, can't focus on the rhythm. I can even handle handstreams better i think which is funny
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        • hi19hi19
          lol happy
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Oct 2005
          • 12194

          #19
          Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

          22NPS - D6

          For getting up to 500 combo every single time I feel pretty confident in 210-220bpm alternating 8th JS, maxing probably just over 22NPS. For reference I crush Etude for the Sinners JS, which is 200bpm, 20NPS.
          Around 230-240bpm I can get 500 combos, sometimes even whole FC files with alternating 8th JS at that speed, but not reliably.
          I'm definitely worse at stream than JS. I don't even think I can reliably always do 300bpm, so I'd put my max around 21NPS for streams, even lower if there are anchor/runningman/trill stuff to trip me up.


          I have awful stamina. I'm glad you specified 500 combo because if you said 5000 my answer would be like, Quasar speed.
          Last edited by hi19hi19; 06-1-2015, 12:45 AM.


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          • SKG_Scintill
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            FFR Simfile Author
            • Feb 2009
            • 3876

            #20
            Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

            17 to 20 then I guess - D5
            Last edited by SKG_Scintill; 06-1-2015, 04:30 AM.





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            • Deadlyx39
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2014
              • 1046

              #21
              Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

              15 nps js iBad
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              • Dynam0
                The Dominator
                • Sep 2005
                • 8987

                #22
                Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

                26NPS - anything faster and I can't combo most patterns at all anymore, probably a reading issue but idk

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                • Kyzentun
                  FFR Player
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 125

                  #23
                  Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

                  Originally posted by icontrolyourworld
                  8nps=60bpm jumpstream with a jump on every 8th note, or 24ths at 60bpm(90bpm 16ths)
                  14nps=120bpm jumpstream with a jump on every 8th note, or 24ths at 120bpm(180bpm 16ths)
                  20nps=180bpm jumpstream with a jump on every 8th note, or 24ths at 180bpm(270bpm 16ths)
                  26nps=240bpm jumpstream with a jump on every 8th note, or 24ths at 240bpm(360bpm 16ths)
                  29nps=270bpm jumpstream with a jump on every 8th note, or 24ths at 270bpm(405bpm 16ths)
                  What patterns are you using for these calculations? The patterns you describe don't seem to fit with the nps you list.

                  16ths with no jumps at N bpm is N/15 nps.
                  16ths that alternate jumps at N bpm is 6 notes per beat, which means N/10 nps.
                  24ths with no jumps at N bpm is N/10 nps.
                  24ths with a jump on every 8th is 8 notes per beat, which means N/7.5 nps.
                  24ths that alternate jumps at N bpm is 9 notes per beat, which means N/6.67 nps.



                  I can hit 13 nps.
                  Last edited by Kyzentun; 06-1-2015, 09:03 AM.
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                  • icontrolyourworld
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                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4196

                    #24
                    Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

                    Here I'll show you a few it involves actually counting arrows i warn you though!:

                    this picture is at 60bpm (the segment has exactly 1 second), the jumpstream is on every 8th note and if you count the arrows there are 8

                    same bpm 24ths no jumps has 7nps



                    This segment is exactly 1 second long at 240bpm with a jump on every 8th note

                    counting the arrows results in 26nps
                    with 24ths the nps would be 25nps


                    admittedly i'm off by 1nps with the 24ths calculations but it's less confusing to group them together instead of saying a 24th stream with exactly 1 jump every second (which would result in the extra 1nps needed)

                    i don't understand your pictures entirely because you did not explain exactly how long each segment was at each bpm
                    Last edited by icontrolyourworld; 06-1-2015, 09:32 AM.

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                    • Kyzentun
                      FFR Player
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 125

                      #25
                      Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

                      ... classic fencepost error. You're counting the notes at the beginning of the next second. So you end up slightly wrong. Just run your method again for a 2 second section of the same pattern, and you'll see a different nps, because your method is wrong.

                      Let's say you're counting the notes in beat N. So you look at "Current Beat" for each note. If it's greater than or equal to N and less than N+1, it's inside beat N. If the current beat for a note is equal to N+1, it's in beat N+1, not beat N. Your method counts the notes that are at beat N+1, so it comes up wrong.

                      Oh, and my pictures are simple. Each one shows one measure (4 beats) filled in with the pattern. Then you have the "at N bpm this is N/15 nps" part. That means that if you see that pattern at 60 bpm, you take 60 and divide by 15 to calculate the nps.
                      Last edited by Kyzentun; 06-1-2015, 09:53 AM.
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                      • icontrolyourworld
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                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4196

                        #26
                        Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

                        lmfao thanks for pointing that out haha
                        readjusted to subtract whatever arrows were at N+1 this should be more accurate
                        6nps=60bpm jumpstream with a jump on every 8th note, or 24ths at 60bpm(90bpm 16ths)
                        12nps=120bpm jumpstream with a jump on every 8th note, or 24ths at 120bpm(180bpm 16ths)
                        18nps=180bpm jumpstream with a jump on every 8th note, or 24ths at 180bpm(270bpm 16ths)
                        24nps=240bpm jumpstream with a jump on every 8th note, or 24ths at 240bpm(360bpm 16ths)
                        27nps=270bpm jumpstream with a jump on every 8th note, or 24ths at 270bpm(405bpm 16ths)

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                        • emulord
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 778

                          #27
                          Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

                          16, maybe 18 on a good day

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                          • Izzy
                            Snek
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 9195

                            #28
                            Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

                            Originally posted by EtienneSM
                            lmao wait what

                            Index, I max out at around 310-315 BPM for comboing.
                            315 bpm stream? No chance I could manage that for more than a measure. I max out at 290 for consistent stream and even then I'd probably give out after 10-15 seconds.

                            After warming up 250 bpm is basically effortless.
                            Last edited by Izzy; 06-1-2015, 10:14 AM.

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                            • Ziemniax
                              FFR Player
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 169

                              #29
                              Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

                              With sprindex I can 18nps all day (270BPM) when fully warmed up, and can play up to 21nps (315) without cbrushes.

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                              • Guest15937
                                One-handed elite
                                • May 2008
                                • 1464

                                #30
                                Re: What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

                                Fastest I can FC for long periods is about 12 (Emerald Sword). 14 is about the maximum I can hit for a while and still expect a decent score (Strangeprogram comes to mind). I can do 16 only in short bursts, and anything above that is generally lolnope
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