GH: Live/Rock Band 4 Discussion Thread

[omega_grunt666]

Re: There WILL BE a new Guitar Hero and Rock Band this year

RB2 Sunburst Stratocaster Master Race (It wants to autocorrect that to Toastmaster. ha)

Still waiting to see what Rockband is going to offer that's new, I like the backwards compatibility, I'm not sure I want a 34th guitar for another GH game. Though the layered button layout is somewhat interesting... Still rather play Rocksmith.

[Deadlyx39]

Re: There WILL BE a new Guitar Hero and Rock Band this year

@Deadlyx39:I had the official GH2 red sg and GH3 black les paul. Both started to give me random double strums and small circuitry failures (randomly not registering frets for a little while and dropping holds because of that) in around 3~4 years of somewhat regular use and no major mistreatment.

It's not terrible but I wouldn't call that very durable.

I had the Sunburst GH:WT guitar. I almost snapped the neck in two once and it still works perfectly. No sensor damage at all.

[Kokonoe Rin]

Re: There WILL BE a new Guitar Hero and Rock Band this year

As long as I can use the xplorer GH 2 guitar I'm fine, unless you were really tall or had gihugic hands, the xplorer was pretty much the best guitar you could use since it had the most durable strum bar, and a shorter neck that made tapping easier. Also I think RB4 was confirmed before the new GH wasn't it?

[Red Blaster]

Re: There WILL BE a new Guitar Hero and Rock Band this year

GH controllers seem to be hit and miss with durability. Most of the SG's ended up with something broken, I never had one..my white GH2 wireless thing and my red/black explorer still work fine, GH3 stuff had some minor strumbar issues but nothing major. On the other hand everything from GHWT(drums/guitar) has broken on me.

[Deadlyx39]

Re: There WILL BE a new Guitar Hero and Rock Band this year

Hey should I make a thread for anyone that wants to play Rock Band or Guitar Hero together? I was thinking of that for people like myself that would like to do a Rock Band or Guitar Hero session with FFR players.

[Red Blaster]

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http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/21/rock-band-4-mad-catz-harmonix-publishing/

R.I.P RB4 controllers

[Deadlyx39]

Re: There WILL BE a new Guitar Hero and Rock Band this year

http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/21/r...ix-publishing/

R.I.P RB4 controllers

Already knew Mad Catz was developing the guitars and shit.

Pray for backwards compatibility plz.

[Poison-]

Re: There WILL BE a new Guitar Hero and Rock Band this year

Rock Band 4 is confirmed to have backwards compatibility with peripherals. Guitar Hero does not.

[Afrobean]

Re: There WILL BE a new Guitar Hero and Rock Band this year

hi can i just say

I really like the design for the new Guitar Hero guitar controller. 3x2 frets instead of 5x1. It looks like complication of finger shapes is going to be going up, while the ridiculous stretches are going to either go down or stay the same. Cool. No more trouble hitting the first and fifth frets now, instead the trouble will come from hitting, say, 1A, 2B, and 3A at the same time. Even if the width of the total "fret board" is the same, having 3 keys instead of 5 would make each button a little wider within the same space, and thus making them easier to hit at least with regards to their lateral position. Am I making any sense?

I would rather games like Rock Band and Guitar Hero also support real instruments somehow (shame we can't just have Rock Band, Guitar Hero, and RockSmith melded together into a single platform), but this is a step in the right direction I think, at least as far as guitar "simulators" go. The only problem is compatibility with past charts and cross-compatibility. I know Rock Band is going to be compatible with past DLC, but Guitar Hero ain't gonna have that "problem", eh? And this Guitar Hero controller is going to have at least 6 buttons, yeah? And they're set up in a different way than ever before in this or Rock Band? Almost reminds me of Guitar Freak's 3 fret buttons, except better. Will we be able to use the Guitar Hero controller on Rock Band? Because we won't be able to play Guitar Hero with Rock Band gear anymore (although Guitar Freaks might be better simulated now? lol). I wonder, was that their goal in making that change? To make Rock Band hardware incompatible with Guitar Hero, but ensure Guitar Hero hardware still works with Rock Band? If the hardware is good, compatible with Rock Band, and mapping the 5 keys to those 6 buttons feels good, I'm willing to move over to Guitar Hero hardware, at least for the guitars. The charts for 5 keys might end up feeling really weird mapped to those 3x2 buttons instead of 5x1 though. Here's hoping.

There's none of that moving up and down the board skill anymore with that kind of setup.

This is a completely different skill, but it's still a skill. Just think: there will be 6 buttons. That's a complication, not a simplification. Adding an extra button will raise the skill ceiling on this game and when some people can perfectly 100% songs when there's "only" 5 keys, I'd say that's a good thing. No, your sliding skills might be for naught now, but the new Guitar Hero game is trying to deliver something new. So it's ignoring a skill that was required for past games and making it require a new and different skill. They're taking elements of Rock Band's pro mode without going to the rididuclous extreme of having 100+ buttons on their controller like Rock Band did for their midi pro controller.

Just ask KgZ

He works for the god damn company that made those games, lmao.

Of course if it's like any other company, probably is under a contract to not say anything.

I was teasing him about Rock Band 4 ever since he revealed he was working for Harmonix. He never said anything prior to the official announcement of RB4.

maybe he just doesn't like me tho ;~;

[Red Blaster]

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I think 4x2 would've been a nicer alternative. With 3 it kinda leaves your pinky just uselessly there if you're not making some sort of actual chord configuration that would involve 4 fingers.
When I first took up guitar I had a teacher tell me "Get used to using your pinky otherwise it'll just end up in the way." and I feel like that is going to happen here.

I'm glad they are redesigning it, we all know they could've easily spat out another identical controller (and I'm glad the horrible touch-slider thing is gone), but I feel this is an asinine direction to take it personally.

[Deadlyx39]

Re: There WILL BE a new Guitar Hero and Rock Band this year

I would rather games like Rock Band and Guitar Hero also support real instruments somehow (shame we can't just have Rock Band, Guitar Hero, and RockSmith melded together into a single platform), but this is a step in the right direction

Well Rock Band 3 did have the Guitar and Bass Pro modes where you could get a real guitar peripheral to play guitar on Rock Band 3, but I barely see anyone using it and it doesn't look like it was very popular.

[omega_grunt666]

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Well Rock Band 3 did have the Guitar and Bass Pro modes where you could get a real guitar peripheral to play guitar on Rock Band 3, but I barely see anyone using it and it doesn't look like it was very popular.

It was total ass, the strumming was soo awkward with the cheap feeling plastic "strings". Even the first rocksmith was 100x better and its tracking was pretty off compared to 2014. Really liked the keyboard though.

[Afrobean]

Re: There WILL BE a new Guitar Hero and Rock Band this year

Well Rock Band 3 did have the Guitar and Bass Pro modes where you could get a real guitar peripheral to play guitar on Rock Band 3, but I barely see anyone using it and it doesn't look like it was very popular.

Barely anyone used it because RB3 only supported a shitty plastic controller with 100+ buttons or a really expensive specially-made midi guitar with proper strings. Typical guitars, even typical midi guitars, did not work.

There is a hack to get around this so that any guitar with midi pickups can work, but why didn't Harmonix make this work easily right out of the box? Their argument was that the special midi controllers sent information for which frets are pressed down even when nothing is strummed, but who cares about that? I'd rather be able to use a cheap guitar from a local pawnshop to play this game than be forced to use a crappy expensive special controller... just so the game will know when I touch a fret without strumming anything.

Look at RockSmith's success though. That's what I want from Rock Band. It's possible to create a game that uses a real guitar and is successful.

[lurker]

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so guitar hero live is basically a mobile game except $60 and released on console
rb4 is more hype but apparently the devs got caught boosting it on amazon

[Deadlyx39]

Re: There WILL BE a new Guitar Hero and Rock Band this year

I actually got Rock Band 4 earlier this week and I love it. Only problem with RB4 is that it doesn't support online play as of right now, but it seems if the game sells well then it will probably be added on later.