FG's Winter Vanilla Thingamajig Tournament

[TheSaxRunner05]

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I was going to post my score last night after one last attempt to improve, but the server went down while I was playing. I have a black flag I'll post tonight when I get home. Thanks for the extension.

[portalbob340]

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[ssbmchamp]

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vomit.


still terrible

[SuperNOVA Gian]

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This is what happens when you play FFR after a concert, lol so tired

[FF_rules]

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In situations where there is convergence of perfect scores and a few other players just off of the mark, you probably should just assign the next person the second highest value.

Alternatively: if you count ties as a single person and don't want to inflate the player count, then the point total for a massive tie like this could be AAA count minus number of players in round = total score; in this case, if 12 out of 13 players AAA'd, then the AAAs all get 2 and the non-AAA gets 1 for being last.

The first idea is probably better, haha.

The second idea basically just says "If everyone but a few AAA then the round is (basically) void." Because it can't even be used to inflate a bad score later.

The first idea basically just gives freebie points to the person who couldn't AAA to inflate their score later on.

Honestly; This type of scoring system is awkward (if I've ever played enough Mario Kart). It can get messy with more than single digits.

Random Idea on scoring with higher than single digit; set a base value greater than 1 where that becomes the minimum points given (maybe Total Participants - 8 = cutoff base point value). (It'd have to be tested) In this case; we all get 13 and the last place gets 5. (in the later games if there are less than 8 AAA it just becomes 13 for AAA 6 for the 8th place, 5th for everyone else.)
~That'd actually still be awkward...

[Funnygurl555]

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Updated after basically giving up on studying lol. I'm also lethargic for no good reason right now and I'm listening to 1D and help me ;___;

aewshighfgsddghkfgdfhjkhg
*aaa*

ldfja;lfkla;eirjlakfja;lkdfjal;jfal;dkfjal;fja

I'm going to have to dropout of this tournament. GL to everyone else and sorry.

Noted, and all good man =)

I was going to post my score last night after one last attempt to improve, but the server went down while I was playing. I have a black flag I'll post tonight when I get home. Thanks for the extension.

Mmk!

The first idea basically just gives freebie points to the person who couldn't AAA to inflate their score later on.

Honestly; This type of scoring system is awkward (if I've ever played enough Mario Kart). It can get messy with more than single digits.

I never really used a points system before or really seen it used around here, so I was kinda testing it out haha. I wanted to try it out because I felt that normal cumulative raw score tournies placed too much weight on later rounds since that's where most of the separation between scores are.

Edit: not sure what you mean by messy. normally tournies place based on cumulative raw score that stuff can nearly hit a million @.@

[FF_rules]

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I never really used a points system before or really seen it used around here, so I was kinda testing it out haha. I wanted to try it out because I felt that normal cumulative raw score tournies placed too much weight on later rounds since that's where most of the separation between scores are.

Edit: not sure what you mean by messy. normally tournies place based on cumulative raw score that stuff can nearly hit a million @.@

I see what you mean; that definitely makes more sense. So it was messy but not in comparison to the norm lol.

What I meant was; the people who are going to win are still going to win, but the people who can't AAA will then start having a point lead if they got in early against everyone else who can do just as well as them but scored worse earlier.

IE: I can't even get past 6 good atm on second song, but I AAA'd the first, I'm 13 points ahead now where as someone who went last and got 5 because they Blackflagged will still have a hard time to press for an advantage.

What I meant was; even a 5 point base isn't enough sometimes.

[Kaitokid1998]

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Gonna make this score better in a while, but playing without glasses is not an easy task

[Funnygurl555]

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I see what you mean; that definitely makes more sense. So it was messy but not in comparison to the norm lol.

What I meant was; the people who are going to win are still going to win, but the people who can't AAA will then start having a point lead if they got in early against everyone else who can do just as well as them but scored worse earlier.

IE: I can't even get past 6 good atm on second song, but I AAA'd the first, I'm 13 points ahead now where as someone who went last and got 5 because they Blackflagged will still have a hard time to press for an advantage.

What I meant was; even a 5 point base isn't enough sometimes.

I went with Halogen's first suggestion, so situations like blackflagging when everyone else AAA's won't screw anyone over haha.

Also yeah, this system's not perfect, heh. if anyone has any suggestions for improvement then feel free to say so. I might not be able to implement it this tourney though since we're already a ways in and it would be a bit unfair.

[FF_rules]

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I went with Halogen's first suggestion, so situations like blackflagging when everyone else AAA's won't screw anyone over haha.

Also yeah, this system's not perfect, heh. if anyone has any suggestions for improvement then feel free to say so. I might not be able to implement it this tourney though since we're already a ways in and it would be a bit unfair.

Well at this point it was bound to happen once someone failed their first AAA in the first round; since they'll "probably" not be able to AAA the following songs. It's actually better this way if more fill the bottom that way people who black flag can stay up with the AAA group.

Maybe a point system based on scores (5 for AAA, 4 for 1good, etc), though it'd require a lot of thought to actually come up with a point system that's actually fair. (The main problem with the points in the last sentence is when no one can AAA the final song)

-Edit: On a different note; the game randomly cuts off mid note and I get a miss/boo, it's happening so frequently I can't even get through a full song before it happens once... I'll see if using a different computer works but... if this keeps up I'll have to stick with my 6 good score.

[benny58624]

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if anyone has any suggestions for improvement then feel free to say so.

Here is an other suggestion for the score system in case of ties:
example:
There are 12 people in D2. Rank 1-11 would normally get a total amount of 12+11+...+3+2=77 points together.
Because they tied, everyone in rank 1-11 would get the same amount of points.
My suggestion is to give them 77/11 points, rounded down (=7 points).
Rank 12 would get 1 point, as planned.

[FF_rules]

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so if 7 people tied AAA in a 12 person division, that'd make (12~6)=63/7=9 points each for the 5 (split however necessary).

7 AAA
2 Blackflag
2 SDG
1 FC

12,12,12,12,12,12 (normally the last 5 if they didn't tie would be 11,10,9,8,7)
(how do we split the 5)
10,10
9,9
7
(or) ~or something else entirely
11,11
9,9
7

[benny58624]

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so if 7 people tied AAA in a 12 person division,

In case there are no other ties:
the people who tied AAA would get 9 points each;
rank 12: 1 point;
rank 11: 2 points;
rank 10: 3 points;
rank 9: 4 points;
rank 8: 5 points.

edit for the edited example of FF_rules:

7 AAA
2 Blackflag
2 SDG
1 FC

2 SDG scores are not always the same, like a 2 goods score and a 4 goods score.
Let's pretend they are both 4 goods scores.
Scores (in red the calculations):
Rank 1-7: 9 points each (12+11+10+9+8+7+6)/7
Rank 8-9: 4 points each (5+4)/2 rounded down
Rank 10-11: 2 points each (3+2)/2 rounded down
Rank 12: 1 point

[Funnygurl555]

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That system might place too much weight on earlier rounds though. In D2 for example, isaiah would earn 1 point while everyone else would earn 7 although there is only a 1g difference between the scores.

[portalbob340]

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Weird idea, but maybe score people by giving the top scorer 100% and the rest whatever percent their raw score is out of that.