The Speedrunning Thread

[Coolboyrulez0]

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good run dj ceTAKA

[Dynam0]

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gj ceteker...u dun gud

[Charu]

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I believe two people sent a donation shoutout to him. They didn't get read, oops.

[Wafles]

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They get far too many donations to read I think

Something like 3500 total donations since it started. No way they could read all of them.

[FFR Pro 21]

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They get far too many donations to read I think

Something like 3500 total donations since it started. No way they could read all of them.

There have been almost 4,500 donations made to the marathon so far.

[darklordsarumon9]

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Jazz Jackrabbit soundtrack holy shit too good

[darklordsarumon9]

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Omg jc a bomb

[Dynam0]

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Not gonna lie I found the Quake run to be underwhelming...coolkid is really skilled at the game but I don't like how he was making quicksaves before hard tricks and restarting when he failed them. It's like watching people play on emulators ffs . Big part of speedruns is use of back-up strats and it's disappointing to see runners unable to finish a level when they mess a trick up.

[Wafles]

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Pretty standard for Quake runners to use quicksaves to simply retry tricks. Backup strats don't really exist for that game, at least everyone I've seen run it just sticks to their route.

Its also the reason why Quake is kind of easy to get into. Pretty much anyone can grind out a sub 20 in only a couple weeks.

[Dynam0]

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Oh I know it's the standard in that community. Just makes for really unimpressive marathon material to see someone literally resetting to an earlier point in the level when the actual time loss is so insignificant that back-up strats should be used instead. Imagine Zoast making a quicksave before going for the full-halfie in Super Metroid or Siglemic trying cannonless for five minutes because he has no back-ups lol. I suppose it's just an awful feature in old fps games that makes it great for practice but terrible for no-reset runs.

[Charu]

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Telling old school FPSers (And pretty much any PC game with quicksave option) to not use quicksaves is like... telling other runners to not save their game in case something bad happens.

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Bad comparison, I know.

[Dynam0]

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What runners do this? To save in a Super Metroid run is lull-worthy and it only wastes a few seconds. Meanwhile there are a bunch of places where the entire run could be lost. It's the fact that saving and loading is so instantaneous that makes it 'ugly' imo. Also a death in Quake is not a huge deal since the longest levels are still less than a minute long...saves are just so unnecessary to me

Also I'm not saying quicksaves should be banned from runs...that's silly to say that since it's a function in the game after all. I'd say the games make for lousy no-reset runs though and aren't AGDQ material (at least in the way they are practiced and performed right now).

[Charu]

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I bet if those games had a quicksave button, runners would abuse it. I can see it happening anyways, lol.

[Dynam0]

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Oh absolutely! It's beneficial for getting better times no doubt, but horribly unattractive to watch. I've been a member of the Elastomania community since 2004 or so and it's approached much on the same level as Quake is. Competition is almost 100% based off of IL times..hundreds of hours drilling a level that is at most 2 minutes long. In Elastomania's defense though, the physics are incredibly subtle and make no time flawless even if the level is 10 seconds long. Segmented runs are made out of these, exactly like the Quake Done Quick video that kick-started speedrunning in 1997. It makes for awesome entertainment, but it loses it's charm when placed in an all levels no-reset event imo. (unless some runners step up and practice specifically for no-reset runs and use more realistic and consistent strats)

[shenjoku]

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All these doom games are so boring to watch x.x I wish MGS wasn't so damn late. I really want to watch that one.