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  • Reincarnate
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    • Nov 2010
    • 6332

    #16
    Re: Which is more important in life?

    No matter how you slice it, not having money sucks. When you are poor, you're constantly in survival mode just trying to make ends meet. Being poor also means you have no buffer to protect yourself against unforeseen circumstances. You don't have much freedom/control/power over much in your life when you have to devote it to scraping by.

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    • Izzy
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      • Jan 2003
      • 9195

      #17
      Re: Which is more important in life?

      If you just had as much money as you ever needed then you'd never really need an education. Although that doesn't inherently mean you would just be stupid and unknowledgable about the world. You could teach yourself anything today if you felt like it.

      So I don't think these two things are really comparable. Maybe something like "money or family or love" would be a harder question. Except not really because family and love should be more important.

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      • GG_Guru
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        • Mar 2006
        • 3219

        #18
        Re: Which is more important in life?

        Originally posted by psychoangel691
        You don't have to sacrifice one for the other. AJ and I are both going to college, both have a job, pay rent, utilities, etc, and are raising two children.
        Ah yes that's true, but I noticed a keypoint in your answer. You used the term "both" which means that "both" of you can support each other while the other is at school and vice versa. This is currently what I'm doing right now with my family as well. My mom and I both have jobs and we both go to school at the same time. I help pay the bills and she helps me by providing shelter and food. This is a good way of surviving and being able to get access to education because in today's modern society reality human beings need the help of another to survive. What do I mean by this? If a person lived alone then how would this apply?

        For example, without a consumer we cannot sell a product and without a product we cannot sell to a consumer therefore a consumer would not exist without the other, right? Or another example would be running a business. In order to run a successful business (employer) you need the help of other people (employees) to help you get the job done because you would not be able to manage doing everything by yourself.

        If you live alone then the same still applies to everything else I just said because you are still depending on the mailman to deliver your mail, you are still depending on the people who work for the trash company to come pick up the garbage that you leave on the lawn in the morning, you still depend on your employer to give you a paycheck every two weeks. People need each other in order to survive, so in your case if you are ever financially stuck in a pickle then you have AJ or other family to rely on until you get back on your feet. You still have your education and the money is there.

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        • GG_Guru
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          • Mar 2006
          • 3219

          #19
          Re: Which is more important in life?

          Originally posted by cedolad
          Now by education, do you mean formal education? Like in a classroom setting with teachers? Because like pseudo said, life is a learning experience, and that is far more valuable to me than money.
          Yes. I do mean formal education or education that can prove to be of value for you in the future.

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          • leonid
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            • Oct 2008
            • 8080

            #20
            Re: Which is more important in life?

            Money of course



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            • psychoangel691
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              • Dec 2004
              • 10438

              #21
              Re: Which is more important in life?

              Originally posted by GG_Guru
              Ah yes that's true, but I noticed a keypoint in your answer. You used the term "both" which means that "both" of you can support each other while the other is at school and vice versa. This is currently what I'm doing right now with my family as well. My mom and I both have jobs and we both go to school at the same time. I help pay the bills and she helps me by providing shelter and food. This is a good way of surviving and being able to get access to education because in today's modern society reality human beings need the help of another to survive. What do I mean by this? If a person lived alone then how would this apply?

              For example, without a consumer we cannot sell a product and without a product we cannot sell to a consumer therefore a consumer would not exist without the other, right? Or another example would be running a business. In order to run a successful business (employer) you need the help of other people (employees) to help you get the job done because you would not be able to manage doing everything by yourself.

              If you live alone then the same still applies to everything else I just said because you are still depending on the mailman to deliver your mail, you are still depending on the people who work for the trash company to come pick up the garbage that you leave on the lawn in the morning, you still depend on your employer to give you a paycheck every two weeks. People need each other in order to survive, so in your case if you are ever financially stuck in a pickle then you have AJ or other family to rely on until you get back on your feet. You still have your education and the money is there.

              Even if I were on my own I'd still be getting an education and making money. Do you not realize the tons of options there are now? I also have no idea where the hell anything else you brought up comes in when it comes to having to sacrifice one for the other. You don't have to sacrifice one for the other you just have to be willing to bust your butt. Ask Marcus he put himself through school and whatnot.

              Oh and also, no I don't have other family to help me out.
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              • benguino
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                • Dec 2007
                • 4190

                #22
                Re: Which is more important in life?

                Originally posted by psychoangel691
                You don't have to sacrifice one for the other you just have to be willing to bust your butt.
                This is true, you just need to willing to work your butt off to get things done. However, I will say that if one plans to go to school and work; even if you are not sacrificing one for the other, doing both means that you are sacrificing something most likely. More specifically, you are sacrificing your time that you might have used for other things such as sleeping, socializing, hobbies/interests, video games, etc.

                So for some people that really value their sleep, social life, hobbies, video games, etc; they feasibly can not do both because they value many other things as well in life that they aren't willing to sacrifice.
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                • ShAiOnEi
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                  • May 2007
                  • 1110

                  #23
                  Re: Which is more important in life?

                  Sell drugs make money you don't even need an education.
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                  • Spenner
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                    • Nov 2006
                    • 2403

                    #24
                    Re: Which is more important in life?

                    Originally posted by Reincarnate
                    No matter how you slice it, not having money sucks. When you are poor, you're constantly in survival mode just trying to make ends meet. Being poor also means you have no buffer to protect yourself against unforeseen circumstances. You don't have much freedom/control/power over much in your life when you have to devote it to scraping by.
                    It depends how someone adapts to those survival circumstances imo. Some people are totally happy leaving and living off the land, and never see a need to return (see: Into The Wild), or moving to be a monk or part of a tribe lmao.

                    Overall its just that if you're poor while in circumstances that MUST involve money, it sucks. You might end up on the streets which would probably lead to worse things unless things turn around. If you're poor but in a situation that doesn't involve money (natives in the amazon or something) then it doesn't really matter much. Depends what system of capital you want to live with. Mind you there's obviously a lot that you have to independently accomplish by doing that, not easy, but some people live for it and like it better. You don't have to be devoted to scraping by when most of your time is spent doing things that you need/seeking them directly rather than working to be able to pay for it.

                    Medicine is obviously a concern here lol. Not saying I'd do it personally.
                    Last edited by Spenner; 10-4-2013, 11:59 PM.

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                    • Pseudo Enigma
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                      • Aug 2012
                      • 2290

                      #25
                      Re: Which is more important in life?

                      I don't get OP. Is he asking us to sacrifice one and never have the other, or is he trying to make us choose which to take first? If the latter, money, if the former, education..? If I could have one and only one of them it would be education. There's no sense being a fat cat moneybags without knowledge.

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                      • Spenner
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                        • Nov 2006
                        • 2403

                        #26
                        Re: Which is more important in life?

                        Originally posted by Reincarnate
                        "I choose money -- and then I'd buy education" or "I choose education -- and now I am smart enough to earn a lot of money."
                        Also I think that both of these happen to most of us, who go on to college/university. Start off with free school getting smart enough to get money to buy better education to get more money etc. The importance level kinda varies based on what point in someone's life you're evaluating it in, but I don't think one can ever become unimportant if the other is sought after.

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                        • korny
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                          • May 2004
                          • 4385

                          #27
                          Re: Which is more important in life?

                          Originally posted by ShAiOnEi
                          Sell drugs make money you don't even need an education.
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                          • Nullifidian
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                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1837

                            #28
                            Re: Which is more important in life?

                            I think it would be better to rephrase your question to: "Which do you value more, money or education?"

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                            • stargroup100
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                              • Jul 2006
                              • 2051

                              #29
                              Re: Which is more important in life?

                              Edited a bit.

                              Generally speaking, education is more important. I think most everyone should know that already and it's probably already explained in detail in this thread. Generally speaking, knowledge of systems lets people use them to their fullest potential, and money is no exception. You need to be smart to know how to spend your money.


                              But to give more of a philosophical take on this question:

                              You need a balance of both. If you have a lot of education that pertains to helping you survive in your environment then you wouldn't need as much money. However, being dumb as bricks means you'll probably not spend your money as wisely, and therefore you'd need more to compensate. It's not about which one of them is particularly important but how to utilize what you have of each.

                              You can take either one to extremes and make a case for both. If you have enough knowledge about the wilderness and independent survival then you could survive off the land and not need money. On the other hand, money is useless in wilderness. However, in a city setting, just having good education and no money could make it very difficult to get yourself a job, since you have nothing to survive off of for an extended period of time and you don't have the resources to present yourself in a manner that is attractive to employers. On the other hand, having lots of money you could just go out and buy anything you needed.

                              The answer to the question "a or b?" is not always either a or b. Depending on the context of the question, it's possible the answer relies on both a and b, or possibly even other factors as well. It's like asking "Is a rectangle a square?" or "How many grains of sand is considered a pile?" or "Is it better to learn to count or to learn to read?".
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                              • kommisar
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                                • Jun 2005
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                                #30
                                Re: Which is more important in life?

                                education to get money


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