Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

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  • bmah
    shots FIRED
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    • Oct 2003
    • 8448

    #31
    Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

    Originally posted by qqwref
    bmah, there's no such thing as a 128th arrow. Come on.
    Actually there is, or can be of any denomination, but anyhow I misspoke there. I meant 192nd.

    take that back, it IS 128ths

    Originally posted by qqwref
    It's easy to tell people to "stop being obsessed with consistency" when you can AAA the chart (so difficulty consistency doesn't affect you).
    There are other parts of the song that can justify for the trill's difficulty. I disagree that it's out of place. It has -nothing- to do with my own performance.
    Last edited by bmah; 08-24-2013, 10:41 PM.

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    • TC_Halogen
      Rhythm game specialist.
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Feb 2008
      • 19376

      #32
      Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

      The argument about BPM scaling also depends on the intensity of the song itself. Listening to Suit Up here, the first 1/4 BPM cut is definitely a stretch considering there's bass drums playing on 4th notes at 110, and they're typically the prominent instrument. The second BPM cut has an accent on each hi-hat, but lacks the heavy percussion that the first one has, so a 1/2 BPM structure would be acceptable here. A 1/4th cut is a bit of a stretch here too.

      The 1/2 BPM cuts in between the verses of the song are perfectly appropriate.

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      • hi19hi19
        lol happy
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Oct 2005
        • 12194

        #33
        Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

        Pretty lame week overall. Despite being one of my least favorite types of music, Sagano Rakuyou Emaki was a standout for how well-made the file was. Definitely the favorite of the week.


        Alice's Garden
        PR errors everywhere in the grace notes. Grace notes should follow the direction the tone is being rolled. Also some more minor PR errors in the melody, such as a repeating jump near the middle where the tone actually goes up. In a file this simplistic literally all there is to do is get the PR absolutely perfect; that it is incorrect is a problem.
        Not sure about the arrow colors: either the white arrows were for color theory and went to absolutely nothing, or the BPM was wrong. Use small BPM changes to avoid this. Either way the arrows were the wrong color and that was annoying.
        Overall just your typical technically weak file that got in because it's easy. Judges please be more harsh with this level of file in the future.

        Note: As far as stylistically, I've said this before and I've said it again: easy files should have a consistent beat and give new users something to follow to practice reading and rhythm. This overabundance of ambient, color-fucced gracenote fests are bad for the game and push away potential new players. I would actually prefer being the most harsh with easy files, as it's the experienced players who know they will have to wade through some bad files to get to ones that make sense. New players shouldn't be thrust into the world of ~dumpy artfiles~ without at least the chance to understand the core of the game first. It's why we moved Synthlight files to Legacy and it's why we should hold files like this to an incredibly high standard before accepting.

        Sagano Rakuyou Emaki
        Interesting layering scheme, PR and the white arrow color theory followed nicely and was used where appropriate.
        I applaud your restraint in not stepping the trills. The difficulty flows really well as a result.
        Despite not being a fan of the music, I happily concede that this is a really well done file and an excellent addition to FFR for those who do like this genre.

        Suit Up
        Started out really fun. The half BPM sections made sense to me. As noted, the green color theory arrows were frequently a frame off. Use BPM changes to fix this next time (if you want an example, check my Silence file from my Tournament Pack. It's a huge pain in the ass to do correctly.)
        The trill was definitely a huge difficulty spike but whatever, sometimes you need a dumb difficulty spike to give an otherwise bland file some character. It's a tradeoff.
        The quarter BPM section was a little excessively hard to read. Got pretty repetitive after that, to be honest.
        Overall just a really repetitive song pick, then you put some gimmicks and difficulty spikes in to give it replay value.
        On one hand it's not that bad technically, cool song, fun to play and all that, so I guess it's fine. On the other hand though it was a pretty weak song choice from a steppability perspective and that's why people are raging, I think.

        XTC Hill Zone Act 24.7

        Super generic file. Lots of little background rhythms that could have been utilized to give some variety that weren't, especially in the beginning. Not saying what was stepped was wrong, just that there were some missed options to spice it up.
        Most steppers have made a file with lol16ths and jumps to the bass drum, glad to see the tradition lives on. (DESTINYYY)
        Overall nothing hugely wrong with it, nothing majorly recommending it. Cool Sonic nostalgia from the sound effects. 24ths and the color notes to Big were fun little interludes (was that a Game Grumps sample at the end? lol). JS patterns were solid.
        Like there's not too much overtly wrong with the file except for the fact that I'm a jaded old stepman and have seen all this before so yeah. Good stuff, I suppose.
        Last edited by hi19hi19; 08-24-2013, 06:57 PM.


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        • Choofers
          FFR Player
          FFR Music Producer
          • Dec 2008
          • 6205

          #34
          Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

          Originally posted by hi19hi19
          Pretty lame week overall. Despite being one of my least favorite types of music, Sagano Rakuyou Emaki was a standout for how well-made the file was. Definitely the favorite of the week.


          Alice's Garden
          PR errors everywhere in the grace notes. Grace notes should follow the direction the tone is being rolled. Also some more minor PR errors in the melody, such as a repeating jump near the middle where the tone actually goes up. In a file this simplistic literally all there is to do is get the PR absolutely perfect; that it is incorrect is a problem.
          Not sure about the arrow colors: either the white arrows were for color theory and went to absolutely nothing, or the BPM was wrong. Use small BPM changes to avoid this. Either way the arrows were the wrong color and that was annoying.
          Overall just your typical technically weak file that got in because it's easy. Judges please be more harsh with this level of file in the future.
          I had this marked down as a 3.5 until I had to pass, due to it already being accepted. I don't get why it received the scores that it did rofl, the pattern usage is blatantly incorrect, grace notes make absolutely no sense, it's super boring, and yet the highest it got was an 8.5.

          Judges need to be harsher, otherwise we get shit files that people don't like in-game.

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          • hi19hi19
            lol happy
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Oct 2005
            • 12194

            #35
            Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

            Hey Choof you gotta be politically correct, it's not "people don't like this file" because I realize one person likes the file.

            The problem is we are trying to appeal to more than just one person when you put something up for public consumption on a site with thousands of active members.


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            • Choofers
              FFR Player
              FFR Music Producer
              • Dec 2008
              • 6205

              #36
              Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

              still a bad file

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              • mi40
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2008
                • 3655

                #37
                Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                i think we just need to step newgrounds techno

                lmk if u object to my suggestion

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                • hi19hi19
                  lol happy
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 12194

                  #38
                  Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                  Originally posted by Choofers
                  still a bad file
                  I was being sarcastic rofl

                  hard to be sarchasm on the internet oh well

                  Originally posted by mi40
                  i think we just need to step newgrounds techno

                  lmk if u object to my suggestion
                  omg or, or

                  get this

                  we could step artsy ambient flashberb songs

                  but we could step them in a technically sound way


                  CRAZY


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                  • KiI14
                    FFR Player
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 4

                    #39
                    Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                    rofl Alice's Garden so bad

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                    • Choofers
                      FFR Player
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 6205

                      #40
                      Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                      posting after kil doppleganger

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                      • popsicle_3000
                        Legendary Noob
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 4641

                        #41
                        Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                        i like your comments hi.

                        Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                        39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
                        Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                        one way to stream them all
                        Originally posted by Xiz
                        Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

                        But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
                        Originally posted by thesunfan
                        replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
                        Originally posted by reuben_tate
                        Title: Popsicle Three

                        Thousand the farthest
                        He's gone in an official
                        Whoop hip hip hooray!
                        Originally posted by U.N. Owen
                        kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

                        @popsicle_3000:
                        Danger incoming
                        The popsicles are melting
                        Three thousand of them
                        Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                        you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

                        dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
                        friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
                        dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
                        friend: hey bro can i tell you something
                        dynam0 yeah man whats up?
                        friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
                        dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
                        friend: thanks man
                        dynam0: no problem man
                        Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                        pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
                        Originally posted by Xiz
                        Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.

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                        • mi40
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 3655

                          #42
                          Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                          1 32 32 1 32 32

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                          • Choofers
                            FFR Player
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 6205

                            #43
                            Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                            I really want to see your take on kyuin

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                            • qqwref
                              stepmania archaeologist
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 4092

                              #44
                              Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                              Originally posted by bmah
                              Actually there is [128ths]
                              Not in DWI or SM files (so, by extension, not in FFR) - everything is quantized into 192nds. If you try to step 128ths or 20ths or whatever, the program will just snap them to the nearest 192nd as soon as you load it up.

                              Anyway, about the difficulty spike, I AAA'd it too, but it still bothers me because I know if the same exact thing was in a harder file I'd be stuck with one or two misses, and that really sucks on a combo scoring game.
                              Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                              Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                              Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                              • Fission
                                no
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 1850

                                #45
                                Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                                Originally posted by MrPopadopalis25
                                I'm gonna be stepping MOSAIC.WAV songs until the day I die and possibly afterwords as well.
                                ew

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