Cyber Bullying in 10 years

[iCeCuBEz v2]

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I think everyone should practice good internetiquette

[Choofers]

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huh... what's wrong with using a radio and not knowing how to use an iPad ?

radios are for nerds

[hi19hi19]

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What the fuck happening to FFR

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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The bold words are the words of a man who doesn't know/remember/care what it's like to be bullied.

I was bullied heavily in elementary school myself.

To be fairly honest, there is nothing that can be done. People will always speak ill of you. These people are irrelevant trash and should be treated as such. You need to focus your attention on those who actually want to be near you. Ignore them like common trash and you'll be fine.

And yes, I speak from both ends of the spectrum, I'm sure someone on this site would call me a cyber bully. And as mentioned, I was bullied myself.

Guess what? You're gonna do it to at least one person. In fact, probably more.

[dragonmegaXX]

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The bold words are the words of a man who doesn't know/remember/care what it's like to be bullied. It's all the same, they've just gotten more sophisticated with how they're doing it. It's not just being shoved into lockers and having belongings snatched and held out of reach anymore.

Insert conspiracy guy meme here: What if the NSA's recently exposed spying was in fact a concerted effort to combat this form of harassment?

Actually, I was by far the most hated kid in my high school. I'm not exaggerating. As a sophomore, somehow someone spread around that I was a furry/all sorts of crazy shit, and my name was know by 75%~ of juniors and seniors and I became the punching bag of everyone in school. I was miserable for about a year, and I almost thought about...extreme retaliation... A couple of times. After a while though, I just became very strong in who I was as a person, and stopped letting the words or opinions of anyone else affect me. I was literally being called things as stupid as 'dragonfucker' out loud in class, but I honestly stopped giving a shit, because 1. I'm in a solid, stable relationship, 2. I had a full time job at 16, so I was able to start making a solid foundation for myself, 3. I am definitely physically attractive so I have no reason to have bad self esteem. 4. A supportive family that pushed me to succeed. A lot of the people making fun of me didn't have any of those things going for them, so at the end of the day, I had no reason to let everyone's shit get to me.

[HalfStep]

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As a sophomore, somehow someone spread around that I was a furry

Well..

[dragonmegaXX]

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I never said I wasn't an idiot in highschool. I probably deserved half the shit I got actually.

[PaperclipGames]

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From plenty first-hand experience I can easily confirm that the best way to deal with (non-physical) bullying is to simply ignore it and not give their words any worth whatsoever. Taking personal offense to a bully saying something is, in my opinion, pretty dumb.

The only person responsible for the suicide should be the person who decided to kill themselves. [...] A person should not be held accountable for another person's decision to commit suicide, especially in cases where the supposed "suspects" are not capable of physically stopping the person from killing themselves. This just sounds like the government wants to increase the scope of their behavior policing policies.

You are naive. People can be influenced; and people who are already on the edge of doing something terrible can often very easily be influenced. If I were suicidal and posted a thread as a call for help, and everybody on FFR would tell me to kill myself because I'm a ******, then you're all comitting a crime. Indoctrinating someone into commiting crimes (because yes, suiciding is a crime) is illegal - and it should be trivial to realize why.

[dragon890x]

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So everyday we hear about people who are terrorized online for random reasons, but the people doing it are never punished because of their anonymity(whatever) online. It seems like people are starting to take it more and more seriously lately though, especially since a lot consider cyber bullying worse than real life bullying(which has pretty bad consequences nowadays in schools).

'Anonymity' is available for both parties. This may only be my perspective, but I see many people who are 'bullied' on the internet responding in a senseless manner. Most of the time, they throw themselves out in the open, waiting for people to jump in and take their side or do something for them (attack the bully). Much of what I see is due to their interest in drama or confusion on how to deal with others in a social environment.

The truth is, everyone deals with bullies. However, you don't hear everyone's problems.
Why do you think that is so?

I'm not trying to dwarf people's problems with others, but I do feel like many of these issues could be handled in a much better way. Once again, being anonymous should work for both parties, and ignoring someone on the internet is simple enough to do. When problems cross certain lines, authorities can step in. However, bullying has been going on for a long, long time. This is not some new kind of epidemic; it was bound to happen. Do you remember AIM chat rooms?



Now, I'm going to dive into more personal thoughts.

Cyber bullying is pretty similar to cyber sex.

Compare cyber sex with 'irl' sex. What is the difference? Why do people have cyber sex? Are the thoughts, feelings, desires still there?

Compare cyber bullying with 'irl' bullying. Think about the previous questions. Let me go into a little more detail now. What about punching, can you do that online? Gathering friends and swarming around a defenseless victim, can you do that online? Sure you can, there are alternatives that you could mention, and plenty of them.

But, there is a huge difference. I do view cyber bullying as a lesser problem when compared to problems with people who are up close and personal. The internet and the mind both provide strong tools that should negate most online attacks. All these victims need to do is use them. The same cannot be said for life outside of the internet. It's hard to ignore a fist slamming into your face, or block a user from breaking into your home.

[DontBanMeYet]

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You are naive. People can be influenced; and people who are already on the edge of doing something terrible can often very easily be influenced. If I were suicidal and posted a thread as a call for help, and everybody on FFR would tell me to kill myself because I'm a ******, then you're all comitting a crime. Indoctrinating someone into commiting crimes (because yes, suiciding is a crime) is illegal - and it should be trivial to realize why.

I'm just going to respond to your post like this:

You are naive(what about my statement led you to assume that I am naive? Are you assuming that i lack certain knowledge? what has led to you assume this? you are the person who is naive, you dont know the extent of my understanding and you are pretending to know in an effort to insult me on something completely unrelated to the topic at hand).
People can be influenced(No shit. I never said that they couldnt be influenced. Just because somebody is influenced by other people does not mean that the people who influenced them are responsible for the things that person does
; and people who are already on the edge of doing something terrible can often very easily be influenced(So what. Let the idiots be easily influenced, I'm not responsible for another person's weakness. a lot of times people go online and ask for help just to find others who will justify the things that they are already thinking. Know anything about confirmation bias?).
If I were suicidal and posted a thread as a call for help, and everybody on FFR would tell me to kill myself because I'm a ******, then you're all comitting a crime.What crime is being committed? If everybody was helpful and the person still killed themselves, would somebody get charged for not doing enough to prevent the suicide?
Indoctrinating someone into commiting crimes (because yes, suiciding is a crime) is illegal - and it should be trivial to realize why.You want to talk about indoctrinating people into committing crimes(suicide being one of those crimes), look at the justice system in America. The prison environment breeds criminal behavior and many prisoners end up committing suicide. Cyberbullying is trivial compared to the injustice of our justice system. Telling somebody to kill themselves over the internet isn't exactly indoctrination.





p.s. you edited out an important part of my post when you quoted me

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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what about my statement led you to assume that I am naive? Are you assuming that i lack certain knowledge? what has led to you assume this?

The fact that you actually think the only person at fault for suicide is the person whom makes the choice, as the way you worded it, sounds like it's a 100% statement. It's not even close.

That makes you incredibly naive and stupid I'd even add, if you think that that person legitimately wants to end their life.

Suicides are typically a mean of last resort, when no option other than it feel viable. Is it the choice of the person to go through it? No. Actually, it would be dependent on a lot of factors that very per person.

External factors to suicides are endless, and while sometimes your statement of it is only the fault of the one who chose that action, more often than not you'd find that statement to be so wrong it would burn your retinas to read such a statement.

[Choofers]

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we can only hope that the next generation of cyberbullies are like cetaka

[DontBanMeYet]

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The fact that you actually think the only person at fault for suicide is the person whom makes the choice, as the way you worded it, sounds like it's a 100% statement. It's not even close.

That makes you incredibly naive and stupid I'd even add, if you think that that person legitimately wants to end their life.

Suicides are typically a mean of last resort, when no option other than it feel viable. Is it the choice of the person to go through it? No. Actually, it would be dependent on a lot of factors that very per person.

External factors to suicides are endless, and while sometimes your statement of it is only the fault of the one who chose that action, more often than not you'd find that statement to be so wrong it would burn your retinas to read such a statement.

If you read my first post in this thread you will see that I said if anybody is to blame it is our culture and that since there is no way to charge our entire culture with a crime, the only person who should be to blame is the person who committed suicide. I'm talking about this from a legal perspective. I firmly believe that other people should not be charged with a crime because of another person's decision to commit suicide. You are just as bad as paperclip games in that you assume things about my opinion and wish to insult me more than you wish to understand. Of course there are a variety of factors that contribute to suicide, but ultimately the only person who is responsible is the person who decides to kill themselves.

[Jonlovesddr]

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who needs to spend thousands on psychiatrists when you have the ffr counseling center

[PaperclipGames]

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@DontBanMeYet: The way you approach things is that when crime X is committed, the person who commited X should be punished, regardless of the circumstances. I can give you countless examples of why that system is flawed as fuck and would not work; aside from indoctrination, repression and blackmail are just another two.

Let's say I tell you that I'd kill your entire family if you didn't steal a car for me. You don't want your whole family to end up killed, so you do it. I drive away in said car, bye-bye. The next day you are arrested by the police as someone witnessed you stealing the car. You go to jail. Does this sound like justice?

While I agree that the current legal system is terrible, that doesn't mean I should just conform to the way things are and be like "Ah, well, whatever, let's just hold the person who suicided responsible just because the system works the easiest like that".

Also, if you truly consider that statement/post of mine insulting or offensive, then you are quite the example of an easily influenced "idiot" with weaknesses. But that only means that, according to your logic, I can tell you to eat shit and die, and if you do, I'm in the clear. Good game.

P.S.: None of this post was intended to be offensive. Just in case you feel like I stepped on your soul.