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  • Coolboyrulez0
    VICES
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    • Aug 2006
    • 10042

    #7276
    Re: League of Legends

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    • phe0nixblade
      Praise the sun mofo
      • Sep 2005
      • 4281

      #7277
      Re: League of Legends

      that build looks stupid and i think a typical AD carry build would work better

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      • speeddemon
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2004
        • 404

        #7278
        Re: League of Legends

        Originally posted by phe0nixblade
        that build looks stupid and i think a typical AD carry build would work better
        It's a situational thing. Works great with a poke/kite comp, but every Ezreal pre-diamond doesn't understand that. What ends up happening is they have a great early game and decently strong midgame presence, but once late game rolls around they fall off worse than old Xin.

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        • Reach
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          • Jun 2003
          • 7471

          #7279
          Re: League of Legends

          That build looks terrible.

          Why not BT instead of lizard elder. At which point I can see you actually hurting, since it's basically a standard build at that point with an AOE slow gimmick which could be pretty useful.

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          • hi19hi19
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            • Oct 2005
            • 12194

            #7280
            Re: League of Legends

            The point of blue Ez is not to do max damage. It's got godlike poke and escape.
            You just win poke wars, then in teamfights you pair it with a very high damage team. With blue Ez you don't need peels when you are completely untouchable with your like 5 second CD free flash, this enables all 4 other members of the team to dive instead of babysitting you. Yeah the endgame damage is not as good as a pure DPS build but the utility of not needing peels let's the TEAM's overall dps be higher, as say the Leona who would be otherwise forced to babysit you can instead go in deep on the teamfight and spread her passive around on everyone while you just lol arcane shift away from things.

            Gotta think about what happens in a teamfight not just max personal deeps all the time. That said the personal deeps is actually pretty decent if you actually hit all your Qs, which might be the problem you guys are experiencing. Not a fault of the build but the player using it lol
            Wildturtle has been doing blue Ez a lot on his stream and every time this is what happens.

            Also if you need more dps, we saw Doublelift use Ez twice yesterday and he started with a BT then did the blue items and it worked for CLG extremely well. A variation with more personal dps but the utility comes later in the game. This is basically what Reach suggessted but he gets the Lizard Elder too because it synergizes super well with the Q cooldown, and the cooldown reduction is amazing (IMO best item for an ADC who needs CDR really unless you have something that can stack a Black Cleaver like Corki E or MF R)
            Last edited by hi19hi19; 05-13-2013, 10:28 AM.


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            • TwistedPhoenix
              Forum User
              • Sep 2011
              • 393

              #7281
              Re: League of Legends

              I forget who mentioned it before, but I tried out Muramana Syndra while ARAMing. I could take their Teemo from full to just about dead with a 3 sphere ult. Shit's cray yo.

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              • speeddemon
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2004
                • 404

                #7282
                Re: League of Legends

                Originally posted by hi19hi19
                The point of blue Ez is not to do max damage. It's got godlike poke and escape.
                You just win poke wars, then in teamfights you pair it with a very high damage team. With blue Ez you don't need peels when you are completely untouchable with your like 5 second CD free flash, this enables all 4 other members of the team to dive instead of babysitting you. Yeah the endgame damage is not as good as a pure DPS build but the utility of not needing peels let's the TEAM's overall dps be higher, as say the Leona who would be otherwise forced to babysit you can instead go in deep on the teamfight and spread her passive around on everyone while you just lol arcane shift away from things.

                Gotta think about what happens in a teamfight not just max personal deeps all the time. That said the personal deeps is actually pretty decent if you actually hit all your Qs, which might be the problem you guys are experiencing. Not a fault of the build but the player using it lol
                All of this. But again, the drawback is that because you yourself don't do enough damage as the adc, their team will win out in the end. All they have to do is peel and not fall into stupid poke wars that they're guaranteed to lose and their adc will rip through the enemy team.

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                • Razor
                  Dan "Razor" Devilz
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                  • May 2004
                  • 1606

                  #7283
                  Re: League of Legends

                  With blue Ezreal, you have to rely on your mid and top to do damage. This is why it fits in well with any aoe mid and strong bruiser with poking capabilities. If you win pre-30 minutes, great, it worked out for you. Otherwise, it's a terrible cost effective build late game. (I mean, it's only 12k? Compared to a traditional adc build that's about 17-19k?)
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                  • hi19hi19
                    lol happy
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 12194

                    #7284
                    Re: League of Legends

                    Originally posted by speeddemon
                    All of this. But again, the drawback is that because you yourself don't do enough damage as the adc, their team will win out in the end. All they have to do is peel and not fall into stupid poke wars that they're guaranteed to lose and their adc will rip through the enemy team.
                    Well the whole point is that their ADC will be dead because your entire team is free to dive them hardcore in lategame fights. And ideally you have such a strong 2-4 item phase that your advantages get you insurmountable lead/win by the time their carry reaches 4-6 items.
                    Obviously in straight up engages where you can't kill their ADC, you will lose. That's the drawback and you play/build/teamcomp so that doesn't happen. There's no point calling a niche build "trash" when it does what it's supposed to do REALLY well. Only idiots who don't play the proper playstyle with the build give it a bad name.


                    Originally posted by TwistedPhoenix
                    I forget who mentioned it before, but I tried out Muramana Syndra while ARAMing. I could take their Teemo from full to just about dead with a 3 sphere ult. Shit's cray yo.
                    Muramana was so much nicer when it was magic damage and benefited from your penetration. Now that it's physical, it's a lot less effective Honestly I get Archangel on Syndra now (even in ARAM)
                    Once you max Q for the passive bonus, Syndra just scales way too well with AP (.69 ratio on Q and 0.6-1.4 ratio on ult) to do anything but a hardcore AP build.
                    Last edited by hi19hi19; 05-13-2013, 12:35 PM.


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                    • Tokzic
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2005
                      • 6878

                      #7285
                      Re: League of Legends

                      hey guys i am lost is this the dota 2 thread

                      Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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                      • TwistedPhoenix
                        Forum User
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 393

                        #7286
                        Re: League of Legends

                        Originally posted by hi19hi19
                        Muramana was so much nicer when it was magic damage and benefited from your penetration. Now that it's physical, it's a lot less effective Honestly I get Archangel on Syndra now (even in ARAM)
                        Once you max Q for the passive bonus, Syndra just scales way too well with AP (.69 ratio on Q and 0.6-1.4 ratio on ult) to do anything but a hardcore AP build.
                        Yeah, I was talking to a friend about this. He was all "Dude, they're so gonna fix the Muramana procs on her ult" but I told him that while you can get a massive single target nuke with Muramana, you'll have a higher overall damage output with Archangel's.

                        Also, 4 AoE ults plus a Yi does not end well for their team.

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                        • hi19hi19
                          lol happy
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 12194

                          #7287
                          Re: League of Legends

                          Originally posted by Tokzic
                          hey guys i am lost is this the dota 2 thread
                          How about that Weplay league finals
                          3-0 Alliance over Evil Geniuses, lol 26-1 PA
                          Was fun to watch, what a stomp...

                          G1 gonna be fun to watch if I can remember to do so lol


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                          • Hurleyisgod
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                            • Oct 2008
                            • 425

                            #7288
                            Re: League of Legends

                            Tanks really do beat all.
                            Mundo stole a penta off of me though.
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                            • ReikonKeiri
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                              • Jun 2006
                              • 2388

                              #7289
                              Re: League of Legends

                              this is the only way to build mf in aram


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                              • 04im
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                                • Apr 2013
                                • 863

                                #7290
                                Re: League of Legends

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