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  • devonin
    Very Grave Indeed
    Event Staff
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Apr 2004
    • 10120

    #46
    Re: Is cybersex cheating?

    Originally posted by TC_Halogen
    Part of me was wondering about cheating in polygamist relationships, but I can't quite wrap my head about how I would discuss something like that, haha.
    If it is behaviour outside that which you both/all are aware of and agree to, it is cheating.

    It's pretty simple guys.

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    • wargasm1
      Cowbelling FFR
      • Apr 2007
      • 1289

      #47
      Re: Is cybersex cheating?

      Sex is never cheating when you pay for it.

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      • Raining Nails
        Oh no! It's Raining Nails
        • Oct 2009
        • 83

        #48
        Re: Is cybersex cheating?

        Originally posted by TC_Halogen
        I still would personally call it cheating. It's the fact that you gave in to the temptation of adulterous behavior.

        By implying that the partner is "alright" with it, you're already nullifying any possibility of it being cheating, because it's either serious enough for the SO to leave you, or it's not serious enough and you/your SO have no reason to argue about it because it's a trivial situation. If the previously noted trivial situation turns out to be a lie and ends up being an affair, then it leads right back to cheating. On a personal level, it seems like there's no middle ground -- either you're cheating, or you're not.

        Part of me was wondering about cheating in polygamist relationships, but I can't quite wrap my head about how I would discuss something like that, haha.
        Good points. I always find open-ended discussions like this interesting.

        The whole idea I had behind my example was a "means to an end" argument, and the uncomfortable idea that in certain situations cheating might actually be beneficial for a relationship.

        Obviously this is far more often the exception rather than the rule, though I would argue if you are in a relationship where cheating is happening then there is something inherently unfulfilling with that relationship from the outset. If feelings develop for another person outside the relationship it doesn't mean the relationship is flawed - rather, if that person feels the need to act on these feelings without talking with their partner and being open then there is a trust issue. This goes for cyber-relationships or in-person.

        Part of this is societally created, as it is very taboo and difficult to tackle the subject of open relationships in today's culture. If this isn't believable, try telling your partner you are attracted to someone else. It is one of the hardest things you can ever do, but if you can work through it, you might have a truly authentic and fulfilling relationship with your partner.

        Sorry if that was long-winded

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        • infinity.
          FFR Veteran
          • Sep 2007
          • 1701

          #49
          Re: Is cybersex cheating?

          Originally posted by devonin
          If it is behaviour outside that which you both/all are aware of and agree to, it is cheating.

          It's pretty simple guys.
          "guys i'm right i can't believe you don't see it" doesn't persuade anyone

          also thats a terrible definition. cheating is engaging in *serious* relations or actions with anyone that is not your significant other. it really just comes down to personal convictions and prerogatives and understanding one another.

          if my girlfriend did something like camming, i wouldn't break up with her because she 'cheated' on me. i'd break up with her because that's weird and whorish
          signatures are for nerds

          nerds

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          • Mike Weedmark
            FFR Veteran
            • Aug 2009
            • 1196

            #50
            Re: Is cybersex cheating?

            Yup, but it's okay.

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            • devonin
              Very Grave Indeed
              Event Staff
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Apr 2004
              • 10120

              #51
              Re: Is cybersex cheating?

              Originally posted by infinity.
              "guys i'm right i can't believe you don't see it" doesn't persuade anyone
              And if I said that, your objection would be relevant.

              also thats a terrible definition. cheating is engaging in *serious* relations or actions with anyone that is not your significant other. it really just comes down to personal convictions and prerogatives and understanding one another.
              So in other words, exactly what I said, and you actually agree with me. Gotcha.

              if my girlfriend did something like camming, i wouldn't break up with her because she 'cheated' on me. i'd break up with her because that's weird and whorish
              Then you have a definition of cheating that doesn't encompass showing your naked body to someone else. For you that isn't cheating. For many people it is. And the way you tell the difference is that you communicate and make it clear which behaviours count as cheating or not.

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              • Sidek
                FFR Player
                • Nov 2010
                • 777

                #52
                Re: Is cybersex cheating?

                who need's sex when you have internet??

                Bye.

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                • infinity.
                  FFR Veteran
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1701

                  #53
                  Re: Is cybersex cheating?

                  Originally posted by devonin
                  And if I said that, your objection would be relevant.

                  So in other words, exactly what I said, and you actually agree with me. Gotcha.



                  Then you have a definition of cheating that doesn't encompass showing your naked body to someone else. For you that isn't cheating. For many people it is. And the way you tell the difference is that you communicate and make it clear which behaviours count as cheating or not.
                  i have no way of talking to you without wanting to spew ad hominem so i'm just going to tell you that you're both overtly pretentious and misguided
                  signatures are for nerds

                  nerds

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                  • dragonmegaXX
                    ITG playing fur
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 3661

                    #54
                    Re: Is cybersex cheating?

                    Originally posted by Sidek
                    who need's sex when you have internet??
                    Obviously you have not sex.

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                    • FissionMailed1
                      FFR Player
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1267

                      #55
                      Re: Is cybersex cheating?

                      Originally posted by infinity.
                      i have no way of talking to you without wanting to spew ad hominem so i'm just going to tell you that you're both overtly pretentious and misguided
                      If the poll in this thread is any indication, it is considering cheating for many people, so he isn't speaking for just himself. I don't see how establishing some baselines regarding what cheating is and isn't in a relationship is "misguided" or how he is being "pretentious" if many people share that opinion.


                      YOUR THROBBING MULTIFARIOUS LUSTFUL DESIRES ARE COMPLETED N YOUR HYPER-ORANGE SELF, YOU MAKE ME LOVE AGAIN, YOU'VE CHANGED MY HEART, MY MELANCHOLIA DISAPPEARS WHEN YOU ARE INSIDE OF ME, MY HUMAN RAGE IS TEMPERED WHEN I AM INSIDE YOU, THE SECRET IS COMMUNICATION, LONGEVITY, STAMINA, REPETITION, FURY, SOULFUL KISSING, EARPLUGS. YOU FUCKING CORPORATE COCKS AND CUNTS.

                      MY ANXIETY COMPLETE, MY DESIRE REPLETE, THE TASTE OF ORANGE BLOOD AND CUM AND GREENBACKS RUNNING DOWN MY FACE. THE STREETS WILL RUN ORANGE WITH YOUR MIXTURE OF CHEETOS AND HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLS REGURGITATED AND EATEN AND SHIT OUT AGAIN AND EATEN AGAIN.

                      YOU ARE MY SCULPTURE, MY SCULPTRA, MY SELF-DEFINITION. MY DEFINITION OF HUMANITY, MY HARMONY. MY HEART AND MY MIND.

                      YOU ARE SO ORANGE. SO CRUNCHY. SO CONSUMABLE.

                      THE NEW ORANGE UNDERGROUND IS THE ORANGE UP MY ASS. AND YOUR ASS.

                      I LOVE YOU CHEETOS.

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                      • Izzy
                        Snek
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 9195

                        #56
                        Re: Is cybersex cheating?

                        Originally posted by FissionMailed1
                        If the poll in this thread is any indication, it is considering cheating for many people, so he isn't speaking for just himself. I don't see how establishing some baselines regarding what cheating is and isn't in a relationship is "misguided" or how he is being "pretentious" if many people share that opinion.
                        I've had that guy on ignore for 3+ years. Please don't quote him.

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                        • FissionMailed1
                          FFR Player
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1267

                          #57
                          Re: Is cybersex cheating?

                          LOL, now I see why. That's a really immature way to handle a debate.


                          YOUR THROBBING MULTIFARIOUS LUSTFUL DESIRES ARE COMPLETED N YOUR HYPER-ORANGE SELF, YOU MAKE ME LOVE AGAIN, YOU'VE CHANGED MY HEART, MY MELANCHOLIA DISAPPEARS WHEN YOU ARE INSIDE OF ME, MY HUMAN RAGE IS TEMPERED WHEN I AM INSIDE YOU, THE SECRET IS COMMUNICATION, LONGEVITY, STAMINA, REPETITION, FURY, SOULFUL KISSING, EARPLUGS. YOU FUCKING CORPORATE COCKS AND CUNTS.

                          MY ANXIETY COMPLETE, MY DESIRE REPLETE, THE TASTE OF ORANGE BLOOD AND CUM AND GREENBACKS RUNNING DOWN MY FACE. THE STREETS WILL RUN ORANGE WITH YOUR MIXTURE OF CHEETOS AND HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLS REGURGITATED AND EATEN AND SHIT OUT AGAIN AND EATEN AGAIN.

                          YOU ARE MY SCULPTURE, MY SCULPTRA, MY SELF-DEFINITION. MY DEFINITION OF HUMANITY, MY HARMONY. MY HEART AND MY MIND.

                          YOU ARE SO ORANGE. SO CRUNCHY. SO CONSUMABLE.

                          THE NEW ORANGE UNDERGROUND IS THE ORANGE UP MY ASS. AND YOUR ASS.

                          I LOVE YOU CHEETOS.

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                          • dragonmegaXX
                            ITG playing fur
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3661

                            #58
                            Re: Is cybersex cheating?

                            I feel like this is the same as asking if 3-somes are cheating because you're touching someone else's genitals.

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                            • Quigly
                              nah
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 3506

                              #59
                              Re: Is cybersex cheating?

                              Originally posted by Sidek
                              who need's sex when you have internet??
                              this is going to be a post that you see a year from now and get really embarrassed about
                              nah

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                              • devonin
                                Very Grave Indeed
                                Event Staff
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 10120

                                #60
                                Re: Is cybersex cheating?

                                Originally posted by dragonmegaXX
                                I feel like this is the same as asking if 3-somes are cheating because you're touching someone else's genitals.
                                If neither of the other two people are your partner maybe. Otherwise, you'd be pretty hard-pressed to have a threesome without your partner consenting.

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