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  • Reincarnate
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    • Nov 2010
    • 6332

    #16
    Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

    Originally posted by JJTrixX
    For you to assume "I think God exists" would make me an agnostic atheist such as yourself, would it not?

    I know God exists.
    ... huh? Rephrase what you are trying to say


    Originally posted by HalfStep
    I think ya'll getting trolled. Just saying.
    Probably. I refuse to believe someone's brains can be addled this hard.

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    • JJTrixX
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      • Nov 2010
      • 295

      #17
      Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

      Originally posted by Crazyjayde
      I'm sorry, I have posted in a hurry and made confusion. Please replace "catholic" with "christian" and answer to a question for once.
      You asked no question to begin with.

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      • hi19hi19
        lol happy
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Oct 2005
        • 12194

        #18
        Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

        Yo I just want to go on record saying the Flying Spaghetti Monster has done way more for my life than any other omniscient being has.


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        • Reincarnate
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          • Nov 2010
          • 6332

          #19
          Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

          This is not a hard question: You say you know God exists. How do you know?

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          • Crazyjayde
            FFR Veteran
            • May 2007
            • 1169

            #20
            Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

            I'm more or less referring to those by saying that you don't answer to questions but rather dodge them:

            Originally posted by JJTrixX
            Originally posted by danceguy117
            I could claim that the Spaghetti God brought the universe into being, loves me, and deserves constant praise. What (aside from scientific research about the origin of the universe) gives my claim less credence than those of someone with a different set of beliefs?
            You could NOT make such a claim for you don't believe it to be so. You would be lying if you said otherwise.
            Originally posted by JJTrixX
            Originally posted by Reincarnate
            Why do you think God exists? Because you feel it? Do you think things are true just because you feel it?
            For you to assume "I think God exists" would make me an agnostic atheist such as yourself, would it not?

            I know God exists.
            This goes back to what I've said earlier about the faith you defend not being eligible to reason. I'd like you to express your opinions on my original post, and to explain to me your viewpoint on how you consider reason and faith, and if reason can be used as a way to reinforce faith. (existence of God)

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            • JJTrixX
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              • Nov 2010
              • 295

              #21
              Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

              Originally posted by Reincarnate
              This is not a hard question: You say you know God exists. How do you know?
              Whatever answer I give, you will not listen, for you don't wish to know God. You seek only to mock God.

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              • Reincarnate
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                • Nov 2010
                • 6332

                #22
                Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

                Originally posted by JJTrixX
                Whatever answer I give, you will not listen, for you don't wish to know God. You seek only to mock God.
                No, I'm asking you what you base your view on. Now you're deliberately avoiding the question (for reasons I think are obvious).

                How do you know God exists? How can you claim to know God?

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                • JJTrixX
                  Green & Gold ReflexKage
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 295

                  #23
                  Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

                  Originally posted by Reincarnate
                  No, I'm asking you what you base your view on.
                  I base my knowledge of God through the Gospel in the Bible.

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                  • Reincarnate
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 6332

                    #24
                    Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

                    Originally posted by JJTrixX
                    I base my knowledge of God through the Gospel in the Bible.
                    And why do you consider the Bible a credible source / a source worth accepting as truth of God?

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                    • JJTrixX
                      Green & Gold ReflexKage
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 295

                      #25
                      Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

                      Originally posted by Reincarnate
                      And why do you consider the Bible a credible source / a source worth accepting as truth of God?
                      1. The Bible was written by divine inspiration:

                      2Tim.3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God
                      1Thes.2:13 Ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the Word of God
                      Heb.1:1 God...spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets
                      2Pet.1:21 Men of God spake as they were moved by Holy Ghost


                      2. God's Word is eternally true and never fails:

                      1Ki.8:56 There hath not failed one word of all His good promise
                      Psa.119:89 Forever, O Lord, Thy Word is settled in Heaven
                      Psa.119:160 Every one of Thy judgements endureth forever
                      Isa.40:8 The Word of God shall stand forever
                      Isa.55:10,11 So shall My Word be...it shall accomplish...and prosper
                      Mat.24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Words [never]
                      Jn.10:35b The Scripture cannot be broken (cancelled, annulled)
                      1Pet.1:25 The Word of the Lord endureth forever


                      3. The Importance of God's Word:

                      Deut.32:46,47 Set your heart unto all the Words...for it is not a vain thing for you; it is your life
                      Psa.138:2b Thou (God) hast magnified Thy Word above all Thy name

                      A. Jesus is the "Word made flesh":
                      Jn.1:1 In the beginning was the Word...and the Word was God
                      Jn.1:14 The Word (Jesus) was made flesh and dwelt among us
                      Rev.19:11-13 His (Jesus') name is called the Word of God (See also 1Jn.1:1)

                      B. The power of the Word:
                      Jn.6:63 The Words that I speak, they are spirit and they are life
                      Psa.33:6,9 By the the Word of the Lord were the heavens made... He spake, and it was done
                      Rom.1:16 Gospel of Christ...is the power of God unto salvation
                      Heb.11:3 The worlds were framed by the Word of God
                      2Pet.3:5-7 Earth...by the Word, kept in store, reserved unto fire


                      4. The Bible was written for our benefit:

                      Psa.102:18 This shall be written for the generation to come
                      Jn.19:35 He (John) that saw it bare record...that ye might believe
                      Jn.20:31 These are written that ye might believe
                      Rom.15:4 Written for our learning, that we through...the Scriptures might have hope
                      1Cor.10:11 And they are written for our admonition (See also 1Jn.5:13)


                      5. Keeping (obeying, heeding) the Word:

                      A. It's important to heed and keep the Word:
                      Deut.11:1 Thou shalt love the Lord thy God, and keep His...statutes, and His judgments, and His commandents, alway
                      Heb.2:1 We ought to give more earnest heed to the (Word)
                      2Pet.1:19 Sure Word...ye do well that ye take heed

                      B. Obeying and keeping the Word proves we know and love Jesus:
                      Psa.119:167 My soul kept Thy testimonies; I love them exceedingly
                      Jn.8:31 If ye continue in My Word, then are ye My disciples indeed
                      Jn.14:15 If ye love Me, keep My commandments
                      Jn.14:21,23 If a man love Me, he will keep My Words
                      Jam.1:22-24 Be ye doers of the Word, and not hearers only
                      1Jn.2:3 Hereby we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments
                      1Jn.5:3 This is the love of God...keep His commandments
                      2Jn.6 This is love, that we walk after His commandments
                      Rev.3:8 Thou...hast kept My Word, and hast not denied My name

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                      • Reincarnate
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6332

                        #26
                        Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

                        So you believe in the Bible because the Bible says so?

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                        • JJTrixX
                          Green & Gold ReflexKage
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 295

                          #27
                          Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

                          Originally posted by Reincarnate
                          So you believe in the Bible because the Bible says so?
                          I believe in God. I believe in Gods word because it is so written in the Bible.

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                          • HalfStep
                            Can't AAA anything
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1391

                            #28
                            Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

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                            • Reincarnate
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6332

                              #29
                              Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

                              Originally posted by JJTrixX
                              I believe in God. I believe in Gods word because it is so written in the Bible.
                              checkmate


                              stop trolling you numpty

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                              • Crazyjayde
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                                • May 2007
                                • 1169

                                #30
                                Re: I wasn't done with atheism/theism

                                Originally posted by JJTrixX
                                I believe in God. I believe in Gods word because it is so written in the Bible.
                                What you have listed are reasons to believe in God, which is highly insufficient to what Reincarnate asked as they do not regard the integrity of the Bible itself. To reiterate the question for better understanding: How do you know the Bible is the Word of God?

                                Therefore, when told about your religion you should answer that you place your faith in the Bible but not in the words of God as the only rational evidence we can observe is that God is the repercussion of the Bible, and not the other way around. You basically say "I believe in God because the Bible says so". Where is your faith in God then? In the Bible. And therefore, your faith in God consists of more faith? Would you admit that there is no rationality in that sense and therefore, no existence of God apart from in your faith?

                                Originally posted by Crazyjayde
                                I'd like you to express your opinions on my original post, and to explain to me your viewpoint on how you consider reason and faith, and if reason can be used as a way to reinforce faith. (existence of God)
                                Whenever you feel like it

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