Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

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  • Reincarnate
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    • Nov 2010
    • 6332

    #106
    Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

    Originally posted by Dynam0
    pretty much this...although it is tricky in a sense of avoiding that 1 random great or so.

    and yeah i was scratching my head at what to leave up for a freedom dive WR and perhaps stupidly left the AAA score with like 77 perfs or w/e
    Maybe it's just me -- I found the file hard precisely because of that 1-3 greats error. It was not hard to AAA most of the file -- only to fuck up royally in a random spot.

    Originally posted by EzExZeRo7497
    I think the only score that was left up in the world records and is not actually a world record according to MIGS is Puppet's 0x1311 (leonid AAA-ed some time ago iirc), but I don't know if it's because Dynamer didn't know how to revert it or not back then or what lmfao.

    Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing two scores for WRs, especially for songs such as FREEDOM DiVE or Superluminal.
    I've AAA'd 0x1311 before but it probably isn't the WR in terms of MA.

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    • Dynam0
      The Dominator
      • Sep 2005
      • 8987

      #107
      Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?



      Dossar had a 43p black flag iirc, can't remember WookE's MA for his AAA

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      • Reincarnate
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        • Nov 2010
        • 6332

        #108
        Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

        I *think* mine was slightly worse than that (I wanna say high 60's low 70's)

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        • Herogashix
          D7 Dating Sim Player
          FFR Music Producer
          • Apr 2009
          • 2183

          #109
          Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

          Originally posted by Choofers
          i kinda want etienne to be bs because stepmania hasn't had a bs scandal like this in a while
          I'm late but, hi.

          I want to see a AAA vid of this song though, that would just be amazing.

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          • DossarLX ODI
            Batch Manager
            Game Manager
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2008
            • 15004

            #110
            Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

            Originally posted by Dynam0


            Dossar had a 43p black flag iirc, can't remember WookE's MA for his AAA
            My blackflag was 42p, my AAA was 62p

            Also I never saw WookE post an AAA on 0x1311. I do remember a derpy zero great score on his photobucket with a DDP though, I think it was 70s.
            Originally posted by hi19hi19
            oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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            • Wayward Vagabond
              Confirmed Heartbreaker
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jul 2012
              • 5866

              #111
              Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

              Alright I'm going to be only one man enough to call bs but rah sorry bro. I slowed down that video and did a frame audio comparison and your key taps are off enough in some places that you're barely even in the perf window most notably at 2:37:49 and 1:29:33

              Try harder next time

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              • qqwref
                stepmania archaeologist
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2005
                • 4092

                #112
                Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

                "Barely even in the perfect window" as in he got lucky?
                Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                • Wayward Vagabond
                  Confirmed Heartbreaker
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 5866

                  #113
                  Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

                  Maybe IdK don't put me on blast judge qqwerf you're shining the light at the wrong guy

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                  • Reincarnate
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 6332

                    #114
                    Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

                    If you want a (nearly) foolproof way to maximize chances that your video is not BS (this isn't aimed at Etienne but just in general):

                    1. Show AI.ini and Stepmania.ini or whatever it's called.

                    2. Briefly go through the relevant spots of your theme metrics files, since it is not hard to move aside things like autoplayCPU display

                    3. Show in-game settings / key mappings. This also helps show that you aren't botting (although SM bots are much much harder to write than FFR bots) since the bot needs to use those mappings too -- and you can't play along on the same keys as the bot without getting shit results due to doubletapping.

                    4. In-song, show that autoplayCPU can be turned on and off with the same key and that it indeed works as designates in the previously-shown AI.ini file (doesn't have to be anything rigorous -- ideally you should set AI.ini to something like all Goods/Boos to drive the point home and clear up any possibility of using it in some underhanded way).

                    5. Show that you have control over the inputs. i.e. during any quiet spaces/lulls in the song or before/after the song, just tap randomly so you can see the receptors move in turn.

                    6. Doing keytap-to-sound analysis tends to be shoddy. Once, I actually made something like 20 separate videos of myself -- some that were legitimate, some me playing along to a bot. Most of the time I couldn't really tell the difference. Sometimes I thought I was clearly off when I wasn't, and I also found that certain plays that I was sure were correct were actually mad BS. Unless you fuck up and make a really obvious mistake, don't rely on such analysis as being solid.

                    7. Have a clock running in the background / use time.gov to show that everything's in sync.

                    8. EDIT: Another way to tell if someone is botting: No late arrows, ever. It's very hard to make your bot accurate, realistic, fit your hit distribution, AND occasionally be late (as detection metrics need to lean a bit on the early side of things).

                    Blah blah blah blah, etc. Doesn't have to follow this exactly, but this covers most cases and leaves little room for BSitude.
                    Last edited by Reincarnate; 02-5-2013, 12:00 PM.

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                    • V-Ormix
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 4677

                      #115
                      Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

                      A mad scientist is working on a way to bot STEPMANIA

                      edit: DR Etienne (:<

                      naw but I can believe his score, a person with horrible pa like mine can still get 20-30s average on this file with a few cbs. AAA from some one of his ability is more than capable.

                      TRICKY but comprehensible
                      Last edited by V-Ormix; 02-5-2013, 12:04 PM.

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                      • Reincarnate
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6332

                        #116
                        Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

                        I've already made an SM bot (and it works very well) but of course, if I were to follow the steps I just outlined above, there'd be no way I could actually use it.

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                        • V-Ormix
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 4677

                          #117
                          Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

                          The creator of an SM bot would like to see a video

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                          • Reincarnate
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6332

                            #118
                            Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

                            this creator is too lazy

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                            • V-Ormix
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 4677

                              #119
                              Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

                              the creator also has a remote that controls the tv remote :P

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                              • qqwref
                                stepmania archaeologist
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 4092

                                #120
                                Re: Did anyone ever AAA Superluminal?

                                Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                                Maybe IdK don't put me on blast judge qqwerf you're shining the light at the wrong guy
                                Nah man, it's not like that, I just don't think that kind of audio analysis is precise enough to be conclusive.
                                Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                                Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                                Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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