United States presidential election, 2012

[bmah]

Re: United States presidential election, 2012

So what do you guys think of the Congress still being split? The Democrats and Republicans will have to cooperate sooner or later, or else not much will get done. How do you think they can reconcile their differences? (I'm guessing some might say "they won't")


edit: one thing to consider is that the Republicans are pressured to cooperate with the Democrats if they ever hope to gain popular vote amongst minorities, women, and children (the majority of who voted for Obama). As you may have seen in the election, the Republicans got nearly 60% of the white demographic's votes, the most in recent memory since Reagan. And they still lost. That might allude a scenario in which the Republicans (House of Rep.) can no longer constantly oppose propositions from Democrats (Senate). The Republicans are not doing themselves any favor by retaining their stubborn stance. The demographics are changing, and the original majority of whites are shrinking.

[Reincarnate]

Re: United States presidential election, 2012

So what do you guys think of the Congress still being split? The Democrats and Republicans will have to cooperate sooner or later, or else not much will get done. How do you think they can reconcile their differences? (I'm guessing some might say "they won't")

I don't see the obstructionism ending anytime soon, but I also don't think it will matter as much in the long run.

A lot of this is tied into the future of the GOP and how it chooses to mold itself going forward.

[Choofers]

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So, 8 Hour Whore, are you willing to put forth your side of things?

probably not because he (she?) doesn't know much about the war in iraq (more like the almost-invasion l0l)

[Emanresu13]

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is it too much to hope that congress actually does get nothing done? 99% of the time government actually does something, it's horrendous. gridlock for eternity please. *slight exaggeration*

[Reincarnate]

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is it too much to hope that congress actually does get nothing done? 99% of the time government actually does something, it's horrendous. gridlock for eternity please. *slight exaggeration*

This is patently absurd.

probably not because he (she?) doesn't know much about the war in iraq (more like the almost-invasion l0l)

yeeeeep

[Choofers]

Re: United States presidential election, 2012

ur avatar is patently absurd

[Reincarnate]

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my avatar is patently oldschool

[Choofers]

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lovely shades of purple we've goin on in this thread, hi velocity

[Emanresu13]

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i still don't (and never will) understand how entity1 forcing entity2 to do something is "good" but to each his own i guess

[Reincarnate]

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i still don't (and never will) understand how entity1 forcing entity2 to do something is "good" but to each his own i guess

Maybe because that's not how it works?

[Emanresu13]

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i pretty much don't want to do anything the government tells me to, so it does feel like i'm being forced into stuff

[Reincarnate]

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i pretty much don't want to do anything the government tells me to, so it does feel like i'm being forced into stuff

So would you prefer to live on your own on a remote desert island, then?

Otherwise, why should you be able to partake in the infrastructure?

[Emanresu13]

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i should be allowed to partake based on what other entities allow. and they can only allow me to partake of something that is their own property.

i also believe the government should have an extremely limited amount of property, thus an extremely limited amount of restriction on me (and others).

[Reincarnate]

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i should be allowed to partake based on what other entities allow. and they can only allow me to partake of something that is their own property.

i also believe the government should have an extremely limited amount of property, thus an extremely limited amount of restriction on me (and others).

Huh?

Explain what you mean by restrictions/being forced to do something.

[Emanresu13]

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yeah, sorry. hope this is decent.

i can (ideally) only possess an apple if it is rightfully mine. how do i come by this apple? do i pick it from the tree? then the tree must be rightfully mine as well. or, i could purchase the apple from whoever owns the apple (or tree). of course, they must be willing to sell it. my restriction in this case, is not having an apple, possibly being unable to attain it.

the government may force the rightful owner of this apple to sell it to me, against their will. or say they are willing to sell it, but only at a high price. the government may force them to lower their price.

another situation could arise where the government actually owns the apple. in this case, the government may force me to purcase the apple, even though i don't want it. now, my restriction is having an apple i don't want. this is mostly why i think government should have very limited property.

as for how this "forcing" comes about, usually it's through the threat of imprisonment.