The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

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Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

Well either way it's how I am, if I don't voice my opinions concerns I may think of others may not and then blind eyes get turned.

[foxfire667]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

Equations can be scaled by a factor of 5 vurr easily. But I was unaware this was a project already a month+ in the making. I'm just throwing my 38437847384 cents in (Lol long walls of text) as this is a beta and in beta community input is usually asked for.

Just because your idea isn't accepted by the creators or it's community counterparts doesn't mean your input isn't wanted. Yes the game is still being shaped, so when you requested for a feature it was examined and shown by others perspective as to why the feature shouldn't be implemented.

Example: earlier I asked about small bonuses for posting in the RPG thread, but it was rejected because of potential post-whoring.

Also walls of text are a good thing, it shows that people are genuinely invested in seeing this game progress. Obviously ideas won't always be accepted, but there are typically very good reasons as to why they aren't.

[krunkykai22]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

I agree, and you shouldn't change who you are for any reason. All I'm doing is giving you added advice in regards to finding a solution to your issue you're having. After ( if you do ) try my advice and it works then voila! Questions answered, if it still portrays a problem, then at that point yes it's definitely something for the Host's to look into.

Basically before I ask a question or post a concern, I try to figure out every way I can to fix it. If I'm unsuccessful in my attempts, then that's when I voice my opinion.

(When you play on World of Warcraft Beta Test Realms you learn to try to find the solution to your own questions because no one really gives a crap what you think lololol)

[~Zeta~]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

Yeah, I read all posts and especially for ideas/feedbacks.

I'm still concerned out how the levels turned out now. It's almost linear leveling [example, 1.8b exp for 98=>99, and 2b for 99=>100]. Not sure how I will work that out.


EDIT:

(When you play on World of Warcraft Beta Test Realms you learn to try to find the solution to your own questions because no one really gives a crap what you think lololol)

#1 reason I hate MMORPG's.

[krunkykai22]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

Have you ever tried working experience leveling with percentages?

EDIT: And yes, I agree with you 100% on your edit in your last post lol

[~Zeta~]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

It works well with few levels, but with large amounts (like 100), it dwindles fast. I'll try and tinker it in spread sheets or something. That also means putting a cap to levels or complicating adding more levels.

Example of 10% degradation

1 2,951,267
2 3,279,185 327,919
3 3,643,539 364,354
4 4,048,377 404,838
5 4,498,196 449,820
6 4,997,996 499,800
7 5,553,329 555,333
8 6,170,365 617,037
9 6,855,961 685,596
10 7,617,735 761,773
11 8,464,150 846,415
12 9,404,611 940,461
13 10,449,568 1,044,957
14 11,610,631 1,161,063
15 12,900,701 1,290,070
16 14,334,112 1,433,411
17 15,926,791 1,592,679
18 17,696,435 1,769,643
19 19,662,705 1,966,271
20 21,847,450 2,184,745
21 24,274,945 2,427,494
22 26,972,161 2,697,216
23 29,969,067 2,996,907
24 33,298,964 3,329,896
25 36,998,849 3,699,885
26 41,109,832 4,110,983
27 45,677,591 4,567,759
28 50,752,879 5,075,288
29 56,392,087 5,639,209
30 62,657,875 6,265,787
31 69,619,861 6,961,986
32 77,355,401 7,735,540
33 85,950,446 8,595,045
34 95,500,495 9,550,050
35 106,111,661 10,611,166
36 117,901,846 11,790,185
37 131,002,051 13,100,205
38 145,557,834 14,555,783
39 161,730,927 16,173,093
40 179,701,030 17,970,103
41 199,667,811 19,966,781
42 221,853,123 22,185,312
43 246,503,470 24,650,347
44 273,892,745 27,389,274
45 304,325,272 30,432,527
46 338,139,191 33,813,919
47 375,710,213 37,571,021
48 417,455,792 41,745,579
49 463,839,769 46,383,977
50 515,377,521 51,537,752
51 572,641,690 57,264,169
52 636,268,544 63,626,854
53 706,965,049 70,696,505
54 785,516,721 78,551,672
55 872,796,357 87,279,636
56 969,773,730 96,977,373
57 1,077,526,366 107,752,637
58 1,197,251,518 119,725,152
59 1,330,279,465 133,027,946
60 1,478,088,294 147,808,829
61 1,642,320,327 164,232,033
62 1,824,800,363 182,480,036
63 2,027,555,959 202,755,596
64 2,252,839,954 225,283,995
65 2,503,155,505 250,315,550
66 2,781,283,894 278,128,389
67 3,090,315,438 309,031,544
68 3,433,683,820 343,368,382
69 3,815,204,245 381,520,424
70 4,239,115,828 423,911,583
71 4,710,128,697 471,012,870
72 5,233,476,330 523,347,633
73 5,814,973,700 581,497,370
74 6,461,081,889 646,108,189
75 7,178,979,877 717,897,988
76 7,976,644,308 797,664,431
77 8,862,938,120 886,293,812
78 9,847,709,022 984,770,902
79 10,941,898,913 1,094,189,891
80 12,157,665,459 1,215,766,546
81 13,508,517,177 1,350,851,718
82 15,009,463,530 1,500,946,353
83 16,677,181,700 1,667,718,170
84 18,530,201,889 1,853,020,189
85 20,589,113,209 2,058,911,321
86 22,876,792,455 2,287,679,245
87 25,418,658,283 2,541,865,828
88 28,242,953,648 2,824,295,365
89 31,381,059,609 3,138,105,961
90 34,867,844,010 3,486,784,401
91 38,742,048,900 3,874,204,890
92 43,046,721,000 4,304,672,100
93 47,829,690,000 4,782,969,000
94 53,144,100,000 5,314,410,000
95 59,049,000,000 5,904,900,000
96 65,610,000,000 6,561,000,000
97 72,900,000,000 7,290,000,000
98 81,000,000,000 8,100,000,000
99 90,000,000,000 9,000,000,000
100 100000000000 10,000,000,000

EDIT: not only does it make it dwindle fast, it gives levels extremely fast at the start. Not sure if we want it to be very fast > extremely slow or at a near-even pace throughout.

EDIT2: Unless you mean start with a base amount and THEN increase it by xx%

[krunkykai22]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

Yes, it would mean to add a cap to levels at the primary position though only.

Right now the leveling process stands at 1-100 for the time being. When you hit level 100 you proceed into the bonus levels. At that time you can do whatever you want, but with a percentage leveling process it gives a clear cut basis to knowing EXACTLY what is coming up, and it's to your own needs. That way you can change the percentage so you don't happen to run into that 1.8b from 98-99 to a linear cap at the next level of only .2b increase to level 100... It creates a decent increase....

Not to mention, you can switch up the percentages PER level rather then doing a 1-100 whole entire percentage... You can have it so it's a 10% increase from level 1 to 2... and increase the percentage each level or however you feel fit. That would definitely take a lot of time to figure out, but at that point nothing is ... "predictable."


EDIT: YES to your 2nd Edit. Give a base amount to start with THEN proceed with the % afterward. Plus, in most RPG's it's always easy to gain the first 20 levels fast. After that it just takes time and effort. Either way whether it's hard or easy it doesn't matter, it's to whatever you want it to be done.

[~Zeta~]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

The only problem with starting from a base with hundreds of thousands or millions (since FFR uses thousands and millions) is that you have a ridiculously easy start for majority of the levels and the a RIDICULOUS spread for the last few levels.


EDIT: LOL let me fix this. This goes into the trillions ROFL.

Example:

1 20,000,000
2 21,800,000 1,800,000
3 23,762,000 1,962,000
4 25,900,580 2,138,580
5 28,231,632 2,331,052
6 30,772,479 2,540,847
7 33,542,002 2,769,523
8 36,560,782 3,018,780
9 39,851,253 3,290,470
10 43,437,866 3,586,613
11 47,347,273 3,909,408
12 51,608,528 4,261,255
13 56,253,296 4,644,768
14 61,316,092 5,062,797
15 66,834,541 5,518,448
16 72,849,649 6,015,109
17 79,406,118 6,556,468
18 86,552,668 7,146,551
19 94,342,408 7,789,740
20 102,833,225 8,490,817
21 112,088,215 9,254,990
22 122,176,155 10,087,939
23 133,172,009 10,995,854
24 145,157,489 11,985,481
25 158,221,663 13,064,174
26 172,461,613 14,239,950
27 187,983,158 15,521,545
28 204,901,643 16,918,484
29 223,342,790 18,441,148
30 243,443,642 20,100,851
31 265,353,569 21,909,928
32 289,235,391 23,881,821
33 315,266,576 26,031,185
34 343,640,568 28,373,992
35 374,568,219 30,927,651
36 408,279,358 33,711,140
37 445,024,501 36,745,142
38 485,076,706 40,052,205
39 528,733,609 43,656,904
40 576,319,634 47,586,025
41 628,188,401 51,868,767
42 684,725,357 56,536,956
43 746,350,639 61,625,282
44 813,522,197 67,171,558
45 886,739,195 73,216,998
46 966,545,722 79,806,528
47 1,053,534,837 86,989,115
48 1,148,352,972 94,818,135
49 1,251,704,740 103,351,768
50 1,364,358,167 112,653,427
51 1,487,150,402 122,792,235
52 1,620,993,938 133,843,536
53 1,766,883,392 145,889,454
54 1,925,902,897 159,019,505
55 2,099,234,158 173,331,261
56 2,288,165,232 188,931,074
57 2,494,100,103 205,934,871
58 2,718,569,113 224,469,009
59 2,963,240,333 244,671,220
60 3,229,931,963 266,691,630
61 3,520,625,839 290,693,877
62 3,837,482,165 316,856,326
63 4,182,855,560 345,373,395
64 4,559,312,560 376,457,000
65 4,969,650,690 410,338,130
66 5,416,919,252 447,268,562
67 5,904,441,985 487,522,733
68 6,435,841,764 531,399,779
69 7,015,067,523 579,225,759
70 7,646,423,600 631,356,077
71 8,334,601,724 688,178,124
72 9,084,715,879 750,114,155
73 9,902,340,308 817,624,429
74 10,793,550,935 891,210,628
75 11,764,970,520 971,419,584
76 12,823,817,866 1,058,847,347
77 13,977,961,474 1,154,143,608
78 15,235,978,007 1,258,016,533
79 16,607,216,028 1,371,238,021
80 18,101,865,470 1,494,649,442
81 19,731,033,363 1,629,167,892
82 21,506,826,365 1,775,793,003
83 23,442,440,738 1,935,614,373
84 25,552,260,404 2,109,819,666
85 27,851,963,841 2,299,703,436
86 30,358,640,587 2,506,676,746
87 33,090,918,239 2,732,277,653
88 36,069,100,881 2,978,182,642
89 39,315,319,960 3,246,219,079
90 42,853,698,757 3,538,378,796
91 46,710,531,645 3,856,832,888
92 50,914,479,493 4,203,947,848
93 55,496,782,647 4,582,303,154
94 60,491,493,085 4,994,710,438
95 65,935,727,463 5,444,234,378
96 71,869,942,935 5,934,215,472
97 78,338,237,799 6,468,294,864
98 85,388,679,201 7,050,441,402
99 93,073,660,329 7,684,981,128
100 101,450,289,758 8,376,629,430

1 1,000,000,000
2 1,125,000,000 125,000,000
3 1,265,625,000 140,625,000
4 1,423,828,125 158,203,125
5 1,601,806,641 177,978,516
6 1,802,032,471 200,225,830
7 2,027,286,530 225,254,059
8 2,280,697,346 253,410,816
9 2,565,784,514 285,087,168
10 2,886,507,578 320,723,064
11 3,247,321,025 360,813,447
12 3,653,236,154 405,915,128
13 4,109,890,673 456,654,519
14 4,623,627,007 513,736,334
15 5,201,580,383 577,953,376
16 5,851,777,931 650,197,548
17 6,583,250,172 731,472,241
18 7,406,156,444 822,906,272
19 8,331,925,999 925,769,555
20 9,373,416,749 1,041,490,750
21 10,545,093,842 1,171,677,094
22 11,863,230,573 1,318,136,730
23 13,346,134,394 1,482,903,822
24 15,014,401,194 1,668,266,799
25 16,891,201,343 1,876,800,149
26 19,002,601,511 2,111,400,168
27 21,377,926,700 2,375,325,189
28 24,050,167,537 2,672,240,837
29 27,056,438,479 3,006,270,942
30 30,438,493,289 3,382,054,810
31 34,243,304,950 3,804,811,661
32 38,523,718,069 4,280,413,119
33 43,339,182,827 4,815,464,759
34 48,756,580,681 5,417,397,853
35 54,851,153,266 6,094,572,585
36 61,707,547,424 6,856,394,158
37 69,420,990,852 7,713,443,428
38 78,098,614,709 8,677,623,857
39 87,860,941,548 9,762,326,839
40 98,843,559,241 10,982,617,693
41 111,199,004,146 12,355,444,905
42 125,098,879,664 13,899,875,518
43 140,736,239,622 15,637,359,958
44 158,328,269,575 17,592,029,953
45 178,119,303,272 19,791,033,697
46 200,384,216,181 22,264,912,909
47 225,432,243,204 25,048,027,023
48 253,611,273,604 28,179,030,400
49 285,312,682,805 31,701,409,201
50 320,976,768,155 35,664,085,351
51 361,098,864,175 40,122,096,019
52 406,236,222,196 45,137,358,022
53 457,015,749,971 50,779,527,775
54 514,142,718,717 57,126,968,746
55 578,410,558,557 64,267,839,840
56 650,711,878,377 72,301,319,820
57 732,050,863,174 81,338,984,797
58 823,557,221,071 91,506,357,897
59 926,501,873,704 102,944,652,634
60 1,042,314,607,917 115,812,734,213
61 1,172,603,933,907 130,289,325,990
62 1,319,179,425,645 146,575,491,738
63 1,484,076,853,851 164,897,428,206
64 1,669,586,460,583 185,509,606,731
65 1,878,284,768,155 208,698,307,573
66 2,113,070,364,175 234,785,596,019
67 2,377,204,159,697 264,133,795,522
68 2,674,354,679,659 297,150,519,962
69 3,008,649,014,616 334,294,334,957
70 3,384,730,141,443 376,081,126,827
71 3,807,821,409,124 423,091,267,680
72 4,283,799,085,264 475,977,676,140
73 4,819,273,970,922 535,474,885,658
74 5,421,683,217,287 602,409,246,365
75 6,099,393,619,448 677,710,402,161
76 6,861,817,821,879 762,424,202,431
77 7,719,545,049,614 857,727,227,735
78 8,684,488,180,816 964,943,131,202
79 9,770,049,203,418 1,085,561,022,602
80 10,991,305,353,845 1,221,256,150,427
81 12,365,218,523,076 1,373,913,169,231
82 13,910,870,838,460 1,545,652,315,384
83 15,649,729,693,267 1,738,858,854,807
84 17,605,945,904,926 1,956,216,211,658
85 19,806,689,143,042 2,200,743,238,116
86 22,282,525,285,922 2,475,836,142,880
87 25,067,840,946,662 2,785,315,660,740
88 28,201,321,064,995 3,133,480,118,333
89 31,726,486,198,119 3,525,165,133,124
90 35,692,296,972,884 3,965,810,774,765
91 40,153,834,094,494 4,461,537,121,610
92 45,173,063,356,306 5,019,229,261,812
93 50,819,696,275,845 5,646,632,919,538
94 57,172,158,310,325 6,352,462,034,481
95 64,318,678,099,116 7,146,519,788,791
96 72,358,512,861,505 8,039,834,762,389
97 81,403,326,969,193 9,044,814,107,688
98 91,578,742,840,343 10,175,415,871,149
99 103,026,085,695,385 11,447,342,855,043
100 115,904,346,407,309 12,878,260,711,923

[U.N. Owen]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

I don't mean for that to sound rude, I really don't (maybe poor wording on my part but lol ), but when you go and play the rest of the songs you haven't tried yet, I'm telling you, you'll see a HUGE jump in your level. Go for FC's and you'll get more. Just try that out first, and if that doesn't solve any or all of your issues then come back and report something.

One thing I'd like to add is to make sure you check your level rank page. For example: I'm currently going through my level ranks and I AAA'd Bicycle Break (which I previously had never played). Without checking my level rank page, I only gained .003 of a level (went from 42.894 to 42.897). I then checked my level rank page. That alone bumped me up to 42.944.

[Elite Ninja]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

One thing I'd like to add is to make sure you check your level rank page. For example: I'm currently going through my level ranks and I AAA'd Bicycle Break (which I previously had never played). Without checking my level rank page, I only gained .003 of a level (went from 42.894 to 42.897). I then checked my level rank page. That alone bumped me up to 42.944.

Hmmm well I think that AAAs are worth MORE later on in levels. An AAA for a level 20 won't give as much as an AAA for a level 70. Atleast that's what I've heard.

[krunkykai22]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

LOL Mikey wow that is ridiculous.

BUT, but, yes but, the beginning levels are meant to be easy so there is a feel for the procedure. I doubt anyone that has signed up here has a level lower then 10. Which in that example, it shows a decent increase starting around there. But, as you get higher in the level tree it gets more difficult to gain levels which is how it "should" be as I've stated already. All you would have to do is incorporate a certain percentage increase in experience per level. What I mean is:

GTS would have a *% increase in experience each level past a certain requirement. Like ... add a 1.2% increase starting at level X so it still maintains a fairly simple leveling process instead of a steady percentile ...

Believe it or not I'm confusing myself and that's typical but I know what I'm trying to say LOL I hope you understand it as well haha

and Owen, yeah definitely every so often everyone should check the level ranks page to update their scores for increase experience.


EDIT: Okay there are 4 people under level 10, but the experience increase in those beginning levels gives them the encouragement to proceed with quickness and stability. They get excited everytime they level so they keep going to progress faster. To me that's what every person starting out wants to do. Progress faster. OF course once they hit a certain level they'll realize they need not just mashing abilities but skill to increase more quickly.

[~Zeta~]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

One thing I'd like to add is to make sure you check your level rank page. For example: I'm currently going through my level ranks and I AAA'd Bicycle Break (which I previously had never played). Without checking my level rank page, I only gained .003 of a level (went from 42.894 to 42.897). I then checked my level rank page. That alone bumped me up to 42.944.

This probably an issue with how data storage/retrieval works on FFR. Example: Your AAA's/FC/Tier points don't update until you check them, so I'm guessing it's similar to how Velo set it up.


EDIT: We actually have several people in the Single Digits Level which I'm quite happy to see lol:
ID----Player--------Exp------Level
104 XxMidigamixX 890531571 9.437
105 Xiz 632849816 7.955
106 Codbeast23 154867637 3.935
107 Valrog 97674605 3.125


reposting the idea so far. me and kjw are messing with this.

1 20,000,000
2 21,800,000 1,800,000
3 23,762,000 1,962,000
4 25,900,580 2,138,580
5 28,231,632 2,331,052
6 30,772,479 2,540,847
7 33,542,002 2,769,523
8 36,560,782 3,018,780
9 39,851,253 3,290,470
10 43,437,866 3,586,613
11 47,347,273 3,909,408
12 51,608,528 4,261,255
13 56,253,296 4,644,768
14 61,316,092 5,062,797
15 66,834,541 5,518,448
16 72,849,649 6,015,109
17 79,406,118 6,556,468
18 86,552,668 7,146,551
19 94,342,408 7,789,740
20 102,833,225 8,490,817
21 112,088,215 9,254,990
22 122,176,155 10,087,939
23 133,172,009 10,995,854
24 145,157,489 11,985,481
25 158,221,663 13,064,174
26 172,461,613 14,239,950
27 187,983,158 15,521,545
28 204,901,643 16,918,484
29 223,342,790 18,441,148
30 243,443,642 20,100,851
31 265,353,569 21,909,928
32 289,235,391 23,881,821
33 315,266,576 26,031,185
34 343,640,568 28,373,992
35 374,568,219 30,927,651
36 408,279,358 33,711,140
37 445,024,501 36,745,142
38 485,076,706 40,052,205
39 528,733,609 43,656,904
40 576,319,634 47,586,025
41 628,188,401 51,868,767
42 684,725,357 56,536,956
43 746,350,639 61,625,282
44 813,522,197 67,171,558
45 886,739,195 73,216,998
46 966,545,722 79,806,528
47 1,053,534,837 86,989,115
48 1,148,352,972 94,818,135
49 1,251,704,740 103,351,768
50 1,364,358,167 112,653,427
51 1,487,150,402 122,792,235
52 1,620,993,938 133,843,536
53 1,766,883,392 145,889,454
54 1,925,902,897 159,019,505
55 2,099,234,158 173,331,261
56 2,288,165,232 188,931,074
57 2,494,100,103 205,934,871
58 2,718,569,113 224,469,009
59 2,963,240,333 244,671,220
60 3,229,931,963 266,691,630
61 3,520,625,839 290,693,877
62 3,837,482,165 316,856,326
63 4,182,855,560 345,373,395
64 4,559,312,560 376,457,000
65 4,969,650,690 410,338,130
66 5,416,919,252 447,268,562
67 5,904,441,985 487,522,733
68 6,435,841,764 531,399,779
69 7,015,067,523 579,225,759
70 7,646,423,600 631,356,077
71 8,334,601,724 688,178,124
72 9,084,715,879 750,114,155
73 9,902,340,308 817,624,429
74 10,793,550,935 891,210,628
75 11,764,970,520 971,419,584
76 12,823,817,866 1,058,847,347
77 13,977,961,474 1,154,143,608
78 15,235,978,007 1,258,016,533
79 16,607,216,028 1,371,238,021
80 18,101,865,470 1,494,649,442
81 19,731,033,363 1,629,167,892
82 21,506,826,365 1,775,793,003
83 23,442,440,738 1,935,614,373
84 25,552,260,404 2,109,819,666
85 27,851,963,841 2,299,703,436
86 30,358,640,587 2,506,676,746
87 33,090,918,239 2,732,277,653
88 36,069,100,881 2,978,182,642
89 39,315,319,960 3,246,219,079
90 42,853,698,757 3,538,378,796
91 46,710,531,645 3,856,832,888
92 50,914,479,493 4,203,947,848
93 55,496,782,647 4,582,303,154
94 60,491,493,085 4,994,710,438
95 65,935,727,463 5,444,234,378
96 71,869,942,935 5,934,215,472
97 78,338,237,799 6,468,294,864
98 85,388,679,201 7,050,441,402
99 93,073,660,329 7,684,981,128
100 101,450,289,758 8,376,629,430

[krunkykai22]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

See now that is a much more reasonable increase for someone like Jerry and Wilson. That increase isn't treacherous, but it is difficult to achieve. Provides them with more play time in order to reach that.

And yeah I noticed the 4 people under level 10 :P my last edit on my last post said that xD

[~Zeta~]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

% increases aren't looking too great. Mostly because it requires starting at a low base to serve for starters and it's a drool for starters for like 40+ levels then just gets ridiculous out of nowhere.

[krunkykai22]

Re: The Unofficial FFR RPG [Beta]

Yeah, after thinking it over it does server a minimal purpose for lower leveling ... It's more of a preference thing in it's self... Hey I tried lol