7th Official FFR Tournament

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  • bmah
    shots FIRED
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    • Oct 2003
    • 8448

    #2926
    Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

    Precisely what? You have no statistical proof, so leave it at that.

    Velo has pointed out that it's entirely dependent on your computer's specs, so as you've mentioned, pretty much the only fix now is to improve your own specs with an upgrade. Now for a flash game like this, that's pretty unwarranted unless FFR is your sole compassion. At least I can somewhat get used to the Legacy engine.

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    • sticklydude
      r.i.p. tiny hippo
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jan 2007
      • 2165

      #2927
      Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

      I just tried out Flash 10 and it's working fine for me now. I might get a choppy run, but the restart button fixes it up.

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      • bob bob
        This Is How We Do It~
        • Oct 2006
        • 3226

        #2928
        Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

        maybe all the people who are affected should post their operating system + flash they are using, so we can get a general idea of who it is affecting
        Best AAA's: NAINAI69, Eradication, Since 1983
        Best Non AAA's: Gunkienen Tarusuigin, (1-0-1-1), Pandora (6-0-1-0) Rotary Slicers MISSFLAG
        Waiting for 2 Million members...
        5th Place: 7th Official Tournament D5


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        • Coolboyrulez0
          VICES
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Aug 2006
          • 10042

          #2929
          Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

          Originally posted by bmah
          Precisely what? You have no statistical proof, so leave it at that.

          Velo has pointed out that it's entirely dependent on your computer's specs, so as you've mentioned, pretty much the only fix now is to improve your own specs with an upgrade. Now for a flash game like this, that's pretty unwarranted unless FFR is your sole compassion.
          If you want to I can search every single post about lag issues to disprove your argument.
          It will be less that 200 at most. While the active player base I'd estimate at approx. 10 times of that.

          Want me to waste hours of my life just so I can win in argument against you? I can do that for you.
          Don't be ignorant.

          Regardless -- this seems an issue that doesn't have one single solution but rather needs to be pieced together thanks to user data.
          Is there in easy way to access player specs and to survey who lags and who doesn't?
          Last edited by Coolboyrulez0; 07-26-2012, 02:19 AM.
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          • bmah
            shots FIRED
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            • Oct 2003
            • 8448

            #2930
            Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

            Originally posted by Coolboyrulez0
            If you want to I can search every single post about lag issues to disprove your argument.
            It will be less that 200 at most. While the active player base I'd estimate at approx. 10 times of that.

            Want me to waste hours of my life just so I can win in argument against you? I can do that for you.
            Don't be ignorant.

            Regardless -- this seems an issue that doesn't have one single solution but rather needs to be pieced together thanks to user data.
            Is there in easy way to access player specs and to survey who lags and who doesn't?
            Missing the point. The point is that you shouldn't make implications on downplaying the issue. It's equally important to get this resolved...and I'm not sure if it will be for a while according to what I've been hearing so far.

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            • Coolboyrulez0
              VICES
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              FFR Music Producer
              • Aug 2006
              • 10042

              #2931
              Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

              Missing the point, huh. I guess providing not only a thesis on why the lag issue is happening but what to do about it and while using prediction to estimate the statistics of the region of players that are actually affected by this issue (never once did I downplay anything -- you read too much into my statements while presumably not comprehending them) is completely missing to point it seems. Okay, bmah you won. Got me. I'm out. I know nothing.
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              • sticklydude
                r.i.p. tiny hippo
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2007
                • 2165

                #2932
                Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                Originally posted by Coolboyrulez0
                If you want to I can search every single post about lag issues to disprove your argument.
                It will be less that 200 at most. While the active player base I'd estimate at approx. 10 times of that.
                Why would every single person who's having lag problems post about it

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                • bob bob
                  This Is How We Do It~
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3226

                  #2933
                  Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                  because that's how ffr works

                  OMG I CANT PLAY ZE GAME I MUST GO ON ZE FORUMS AND COMPLAIN
                  Best AAA's: NAINAI69, Eradication, Since 1983
                  Best Non AAA's: Gunkienen Tarusuigin, (1-0-1-1), Pandora (6-0-1-0) Rotary Slicers MISSFLAG
                  Waiting for 2 Million members...
                  5th Place: 7th Official Tournament D5


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                  • Coolboyrulez0
                    VICES
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 10042

                    #2934
                    Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                    Originally posted by sticklydude
                    Why would every single person who's having lag problems post about it
                    How do you get your car fixed if you know nothing about cars or don't have the necessary tools to do so?
                    You go to the mechanic or ask people who know about the issue -- this in both cases being the forums.

                    And as bob^2 put it sarcastically, the ffr people are known for their blunt whining and complaining.
                    If something rustles their jimmies they'll tell ya. Once again bringing me back to the vocal minority argument.

                    Ah yes, unintentional full-circles are the best. Done yet arguing about non-trivial things that you know I'm right on?
                    Last edited by Coolboyrulez0; 07-26-2012, 02:35 AM.
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                    • bob bob
                      This Is How We Do It~
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 3226

                      #2935
                      Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                      ITT: jimmies are gettin rustled
                      Best AAA's: NAINAI69, Eradication, Since 1983
                      Best Non AAA's: Gunkienen Tarusuigin, (1-0-1-1), Pandora (6-0-1-0) Rotary Slicers MISSFLAG
                      Waiting for 2 Million members...
                      5th Place: 7th Official Tournament D5


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                      • Velocity
                        Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Administrator
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1819

                        #2936
                        Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                        http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/.../ffr_Wide7.swf

                        It only has the tournament songs. bmah said it helped. I don't know anymore, just try it.

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                        • Coolboyrulez0
                          VICES
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                          • Aug 2006
                          • 10042

                          #2937
                          Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                          Originally posted by bob bob
                          ITT: jimmies are gettin rustled
                          v2 8)


                          Originally posted by Velocity
                          http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/.../ffr_Wide7.swf

                          It only has the tournament songs. bmah said it helped. I don't know anymore, just try it.
                          played one song on this in-browser and received zero lag whatsoever.
                          then again i was not affected by it earlier so my data is useless to your purposes.
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                          https://cbrrecords.bandcamp.com/

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                          • bmah
                            shots FIRED
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                            • Oct 2003
                            • 8448

                            #2938
                            Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                            It helped to a small extent. Ultimately, it did not change the fact that input lag occurs at a gross rate.

                            Also, after some discussion: there will be no extensions for this round.

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                            • bob bob
                              This Is How We Do It~
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3226

                              #2939
                              Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                              even though i don't encounter lag problems anyway, the engine was really laggy for me (visual lag was horrendous)

                              im sticking with good ol non laggy legacy 8)
                              Best AAA's: NAINAI69, Eradication, Since 1983
                              Best Non AAA's: Gunkienen Tarusuigin, (1-0-1-1), Pandora (6-0-1-0) Rotary Slicers MISSFLAG
                              Waiting for 2 Million members...
                              5th Place: 7th Official Tournament D5


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                              • Velocity
                                Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Administrator
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 1819

                                #2940
                                Re: 7th Official FFR Tournament

                                Originally posted by Coolboyrulez0
                                v2 8)




                                played one song on this in-browser and received zero lag whatsoever.
                                then again i was not affected by it earlier so my data is useless to your purposes.
                                Browser and standalone should be near exact nowadays, I noticed that the "wmode" in the browser was set to "window", it was changed to "direct" sometime last week.

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