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  • xXOpkillerXx
    Forever OP
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2008
    • 4207

    #316
    Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

    Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
    I'm going to be completely honest here, I don't really know what your problem is. I don't remember if you use the velocity or legacy engine, but even then I still can't help you. I remember when I was playing on someone else's laptop and my keypresses were registering really late for like no reason (when I would get a perfect, it would become a late good), and I couldn't find a solution to that

    If anything I could give you an extension until something works out, but when it comes to bad keypress delay I can't help much. Is it also happening for you on the official FFR engine and Dragonsfury engine?
    Hmm I see.. And well no all the other engines work fine for me, I just played the round 1 file and got 290-0-1-0 (which I think was in fact 2-0-1-0 or 1-0-1-0, w/e)

    EDIT: It looks like my keypresses are registering fine, but the receptors are messed up: when I hit a real perfect, it gives me a late perf; when I hit late perf, it's a good; etc.. (Noteskin is not the problem)
    Last edited by xXOpkillerXx; 04-16-2012, 05:34 PM.

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    • DossarLX ODI
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      • Mar 2008
      • 15004

      #317
      Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

      Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
      Hmm I see.. And well no all the other engines work fine for me, I just played the round 1 file and got 290-0-1-0 (which I think was in fact 2-0-1-0 or 1-0-1-0, w/e)

      EDIT: It looks like my keypresses are registering fine, but the receptors are messed up: when I hit a real perfect, it gives me a late perf; when I hit late perf, it's a good; etc.. (Noteskin is not the problem)
      I just looked at your 290 good replay data and saw this

      0,0,0,0,63,960,290,0

      This means 63 mid perfect frame hits, 960 late perfect frame hits (which would've been middle hits), and then 290 late good hits. If all of these were a frame earlier, it would've been a missflag score with zero goods.

      This means that your presses are indeed a frame later than they should be registering.
      Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 04-16-2012, 05:43 PM.
      Originally posted by hi19hi19
      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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      • MaxGhost
        FFR Veteran
        • Feb 2008
        • 2141

        #318
        Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

        Can't you just do -1 offset?

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        • xXOpkillerXx
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          • Dec 2008
          • 4207

          #319
          Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

          Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
          I just looked at your 290 good replay data and saw this

          0,0,0,0,63,960,290,0

          This means 63 mid perfect frame hits, 960 late perfect frame hits (which would've been middle hits), and then 290 late good hits.

          This means that your presses are indeed a frame later than they should be registering.
          It's weird though because it's the first time that happens on this engine, a few months ago I was playing the same engine with same settings and it was okay. :/

          Can't you just do -1 offset?
          It doesn't change anything because I still need to hit when the notes are right above the receptors to get mid perfs, so I can't concentrate on the song cuz I must absolutely fix the receptors all time...
          Last edited by xXOpkillerXx; 04-16-2012, 05:49 PM.

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          • DossarLX ODI
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            • Mar 2008
            • 15004

            #320
            Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

            In Opkiller's case, it would be +1 offset. -1 offset would mean more late hits.

            I'd suggest adding one to your current offset and see what results you get, because right now you're literally one frame later than a normal score (as I've presented from the data of your 290 good run).
            Originally posted by hi19hi19
            oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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            • xXOpkillerXx
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              • Dec 2008
              • 4207

              #321
              Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

              Originally posted by MaxGhost
              Can't you just do -1 offset?
              Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
              In Opkiller's case, it would be +1 offset. -1 offset would mean more late hits.

              I'd suggest adding one to your current offset and see what results you get, because right now you're literally one frame later than a normal score (as I've presented from the data of your 290 good run).
              See my last post's edit.

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              • Zakvvv666
                I catch fruit
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                • Jun 2009
                • 2861

                #322
                Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

                Maybe I have the same problem, since my keyboard suddenly stopped derping, but I did get 185 clean >_>



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                • DossarLX ODI
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 15004

                  #323
                  Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

                  Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
                  See my last post's edit.
                  Follow my instructions - follow the music instead; use Dark on and see what happens.
                  Originally posted by hi19hi19
                  oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                  • MaxGhost
                    FFR Veteran
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 2141

                    #324
                    Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

                    How hard would it be to add a mode to the engine that calculates the scores with +1 to the offset?

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                    • DossarLX ODI
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15004

                      #325
                      Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

                      Originally posted by MaxGhost
                      How hard would it be to add a mode to the engine that calculates the scores with +1 to the offset?
                      Pretty hard

                      But yeah, if you're playing with judgements off, why can't you just play with judgements on to see if you're dumping hundreds of goods?
                      Originally posted by hi19hi19
                      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                      • xXOpkillerXx
                        Forever OP
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 4207

                        #326
                        Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

                        Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                        Pretty hard

                        But yeah, if you're playing with judgements off, why can't you just play with judgements on to see if you're dumping hundreds of goods?
                        Nope I really can't play, I'm used to watch close to the receptors when I play, and going with the beat only is impossible for me. Oh and I'm playing with judgements on, and the late perf shows a good.

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                        • DossarLX ODI
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                          • Mar 2008
                          • 15004

                          #327
                          Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

                          Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
                          Nope I really can't play, I'm used to watch close to the receptors when I play, and going with the beat only is impossible for me. Oh and I'm playing with judgements on, and the late perf shows a good.
                          qqwref 8:09 pm
                          (8:09:06 PM): and I hit on the same place on the receptors that I hit on other songs
                          (8:09:09 PM): in the real FFR engine
                          (8:09:18 PM): the ONLY ONLY ONLY thing I can think of is that every single person complaining is using beatmania
                          (8:09:31 PM): because I fixed it to make the notes on center just like every other noteskin
                          (8:09:41 PM): but maybe that changed the frame you have to hit at?
                          (8:09:43 PM): maybe?
                          (8:09:53 PM): not the actual frame but the visual placement of mid perf
                          qqwref 8:12 pm
                          (8:12:33 PM): it might have changed what place on the screen you need to hit
                          Originally posted by hi19hi19
                          oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                          • fuzzykoala
                            FFR Player
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 34

                            #328
                            Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

                            Not too happy with this but I can barely get through 300 notes of any song without messing up right now.

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                            • xXOpkillerXx
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4207

                              #329
                              Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

                              Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                              qqwref 8:09 pm
                              (8:09:06 PM): and I hit on the same place on the receptors that I hit on other songs
                              (8:09:09 PM): in the real FFR engine
                              (8:09:18 PM): the ONLY ONLY ONLY thing I can think of is that every single person complaining is using beatmania
                              (8:09:31 PM): because I fixed it to make the notes on center just like every other noteskin
                              (8:09:41 PM): but maybe that changed the frame you have to hit at?
                              (8:09:43 PM): maybe?
                              (8:09:53 PM): not the actual frame but the visual placement of mid perf
                              qqwref 8:12 pm
                              (8:12:33 PM): it might have changed what place on the screen you need to hit
                              Well I have some SS's if it helps: (I didn't hit anything on the pictures. First is your engine, second is FFR's, and last one is both, to see if the receptors were the same and at the same position.)

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                              • igotrhythm
                                Fractals!
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 6535

                                #330
                                Re: Dossar's Video Game Tournament

                                Originally posted by reuben_tate
                                'Sup D2B (and the lazy people in D2A):


                                (I hope this doesn't get me bumped ._.)
                                Oof. Good jorb on that.
                                Originally posted by thesunfan
                                I literally spent 10 minutes in the library looking for the TWG forum on Smogon and couldn't find it what the fuck is this witchcraft IGR

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