World of Warcraft

[Darkbreezee]

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healing is one of the easiest jobs atm, since cata i think dd-ling has become quite a difficult job if you want to keep your dps at a maximum.
there might be brainoff classes tho, but to get a warlocks dps to the max with your current gear, it takes some skill 4 sure.
even if you play the "right" arcane mage with conservation phases, its by far the easiest.

[hi19hi19]

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I never had trouble ranking well for my gear level as a ret pally. Maybe that's 'cause ret pally has always been kinda a dumb class, but healing for me was DEFINITELY the hardest in a decently high-level raid situation. Pre-nerf H Cho'gall with 5 healers ;_; so ****ing brutal (then they nerfed him and in no time we were using 7 healers with no fire mages and were making the enrage no problem lmfao).
There may be less buttons to press as a healer compared to when DPSing, but each button carries so much more weight in terms of impact on the raid- I found it both exhilarating and stressful.

Also I'm sorry, if you are arguing Arcane mage takes any sort of mental capacity I strongly disagree. Maybe at lower gear mana management is a serious component of your DPS, but in the full 25 heroic Firelands gear my friend's mage had it was literally pressing Arcane Blast 95% of the time and blink/iceblock/some other utility the 5% of the time you remotely had to think. Oh, and evocation and your giant "this button pops everything and makes me awesome" macro.
Such a flawed spec, which is a shame because the idea behind the mastery was pretty cool.

[Choofers]

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Macros are gay. Just sayin. (I'm not a min-maxer though, so w/e)

[Winrar]

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healing is one of the easiest jobs atm, since cata i think dd-ling has become quite a difficult job if you want to keep your dps at a maximum.
there might be brainoff classes tho, but to get a warlocks dps to the max with your current gear, it takes some skill 4 sure.

Lock dps has always been easy, just go destro and keep dots up while prioritizing your spells. I did 25k on a lock with 4 pieces of epic gear in 4.1 all because I read a guide from paragon =/

[hi19hi19]

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Macros are gay. Just sayin. (I'm not a min-maxer though, so w/e)

I think macros are gay and I was a min/maxer.
Take forever to re-write after each new patch, and take like half the skill out of the game. But whatever- they increase your DPS so I used 'em...

[ichliebekase]

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I hate macros. Only reason I ever used them was the one boss in ICC where you had to bite someone (it's been a while since I've done ICC, memory fail). Didn't feel like typing out /bite at the perfect time so I just made the macro.

Arcane mages are way too simple, agreed. I hate the people who roll arcane mages and don't know how to manage their mana and after every damn pull they need mana >.> I prefer frost on my mage, mainly for PvP.

[fido123]

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Lock dps has always been easy

Have you ever played Vanilla or BC? Affliction DPS IMO was the hardest DPS to play when it was what it was.

[Darkbreezee]

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... but healing for me was DEFINITELY the hardest in a decently high-level raid situation...

...Such a flawed spec, which is a shame because the idea behind the mastery was pretty cool...

yes the idea was nice, but they kinda failed that hard..
and healing, well i never had any problems with that , i mean seriously, all you have to do is bind your mainhealing spells onto your mouse buttons , get a big "grid" - screen ( addon), hover over the names and here you go.
Since Grid and easy Macro writing, healing never has been any kinda rocket science again.
Not to speak of Tanking, tanking once was a real difficult job if done right with interupts / kicks etc,), and now even my mommy could tank the shit. xD

Have you ever played Vanilla or BC? Affliction DPS IMO was the hardest DPS to play when it was what it was.

thats what i am saying^^

[Choofers]

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Actually, I take that back. Some macros are pretty useful in raids (dunno the syntax in WoW, but I have different /target macros for bosses that spawn adds).

Ugh, I need a rift thread. .___.

[Kagome]

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I mostly use macros to pop cooldowns with a single keybind or specific bosses that need special things to be done like Cho'gall or biting in ICC.

Here's my mage for those interested. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...hijou/advanced

[hi19hi19]

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and healing, well i never had any problems with that , i mean seriously, all you have to do is bind your mainhealing spells onto your mouse buttons , get a big "grid" - screen ( addon), hover over the names and here you go.
Since Grid and easy Macro writing, healing never has been any kinda rocket science again.

Eh, that works for normal modes rofl
Healing something legit crazy hard is really stressful... and if you're looking over Grid the whole time you're probably doing it wrong. #1 most important is raid awareness, you can tell real fast the people who are looking at Grid while healing when they stand in 3 shadow crashes in a row (*cough* H Cho'gall)

Healing is pretty easy at low levels or while overgearing, but with low gear or in really hard content I found it hands down the most stressful and difficult job. Sure actually pressing the buttons right is rather trivial, but doing it while managing the raid mechanics on a chaotic fight and more importantly, managing your mana, is when it gets to the "rocket science" level... well, rocket science as far as WoW is concerned.
If you've never done a fight where mana is a legit concern, then try some more hardmodes- either than or you're far more pro than I am and just find everything easy, in which case go farm H Ragnaros with your second alt raid and stop making me feel bad >_>
I mean I thought I was a decent player, but I had plenty of trouble sometimes on fights like H Ascendant Council with raid awareness while healing (not gonna lie, I was "that guy" who lightninged the raid more than once), or H Halfus/Magmaw right at the start of Cata with cooldown timing and mana management- those fights were BRUTAL in blues.

Tanking was a lot of fun for me because I enjoyed leading groups, and that was usually the main challenge of tanking in 5mans. In raids, tanking was a little less interesting. Stuff like cooldown timing was kinda important but not too much of a concern (in a good raid that stuff is always called out by a raid leader or by a bossmod anyway... addons are another story I won't get into btw) and the actual tanking rotations were not too hard at all. Some fights where tank DPS really mattered were kinda fun- Alysrazor looked like TONS of fun to tank for that reason (plus all the positioning with the worms and the firestorm and the meteors and... yeah awesome looking tank fight)


Whatever... all this is making me nostalgic for WoW but I don't ever think I'll renew my subscription. Watching from the sidelines is oddly fun too and I'm sure I'll have another chance to get carried by my old guild on my friend's account again once they finish the newest patch- from the looks of it he's staying specced braindead arcane mage, sigh. I should tell him to level a pally.



EDIT- Choof, Rift looked interesting to me but I don't want to get involved with another MMO anymore. A lot of Rift fights really remind me of the old Vanilla WoW raids, in mostly a positive way. Stuff like Sicaron looks absolutely hilarious haha, that boss is genius.
Interesting game for sure.

EDIT 2- nice staff Kagome \o/



btw, when I'm talking about my friend's account, my old guild broke up so this is the guild most of those who still play wound up in.

[ichliebekase]

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Alysrazor is a dick. Reg and hard mode. I feel Rag is easier than Alysrazor and less rage inducing if you die. (Personal opinion, don't hate if you disagree.)

Btw Kagome, your mage is disgusting...wat tha fak...nice legendary staff though, it's sexy xD

[Kagome]

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It helps with the pewpew.

[Darkbreezee]

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seriously , ragnaros Hero was decend b4 the nerf , a hard encounter, yes , but for me (raided M'uru) (god damn that was by far the most difficut encounter ever created ( sunwell was best!) , can say that i got everything to the max, now WoW is pretty much that what you can call casual shit, everyone and every shitty r'ng random guild can kill heroic encounters, ask yourself why ^^
Still , WoW is the MMOrpg that can keep you busy for months / years, and thats why it is still the best MMORPG, released.
there have been so many MMO's that said " we will crush blizzards MMO-empire" , but no mmorpg did it by now.
I wont say that its flawless and perfect, but blizzard is listening to the community and i hope that mysts of pandaria is getting awesome again..(at least more difficult with encounters that only can be killed by epic , true skilled players.)

[ghost-]

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any word on some sort of guild for us FFRers? would be nice