Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

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  • Xx{Midnight}xX
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2007
    • 8548

    #211
    Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

    Let me first say: I understand the chart possibly needs work. I appreciate the notes that I did receive, and appreciate the time some of you put into being thorough. I feel like I am steadily improving my quality because of it.

    On the other hand.

    BOTH times I have submitted Speedcore 300 I have had 1 or more judge(s) bluntly not look at it, or have let a bias affect their judgment. I feel naming names in this thread isn't fair to these judge(s), but I'm just going to voice that some of the judges bluntly need to stop this. I understand you all do this on your own time for free, which is why I feel like saying anything is rude and I really shouldn't complain, but come on guys, if you're not going to be fair do the right thing and just don't judge it, last time I checked judges could do this. Pardon me if I'm wrong.

    In reference to the notes I was given:

    - I'm kinda sad most of the judges thought the 16th notes were grace notes. In reality they're not. I'm stepping the buzz (douche move I'm aware) without being a over technical ****** like I was on the original chart. Unless you all like 32nd jacks @300 bpm guys, which is what it should be. It's just not reasonable ergo left I left the 32nds out and didn't jack it for the sake of being able to keep it reasonable.

    - Will look @ those spots you mentioned Bmah. I think I did that on the original chart but it cluttered it up, so I was watering it down I think. Regardless will look again.

    - Thanks qq for the other mentionable spots.

    To those who gave notes because they looked at the file: Thank you much. Will begin fixing tonight.

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    • leonid
      I am leonid
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Oct 2008
      • 8080

      #212
      Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

      There are zero ghost notes in About Happiness and Earth Tower Devotion. Every single note in them is present in their bms charts
      But I'll fix them to cater to n00bz
      Last edited by leonid; 11-8-2011, 04:54 AM.



      Proud member of Team No

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      • who_cares973
        FFR Player
        • Aug 2006
        • 15407

        #213
        Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

        You have to understand how bad of a file you created the first time and how it will affect the way people view your stepping and your files

        Also song sucks

        Directed to middie

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        • Plan_Bsk81127
          snooches
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2007
          • 6420

          #214
          Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

          Speedcore 300 is shit, stop trying to make it happen.

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          • Reshiram
            The Vast White Note
            FFR Simfile Author
            • May 2011
            • 1224

            #215
            Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

            To any judge who thought my Trisection was meant to be anything but overtechnical and angry:

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            • SKG_Scintill
              Spun a twirly fruitcake,
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Feb 2009
              • 3877

              #216
              Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

              Your Trisection was meant to be angry?

              Also, not that I have anything to do with this, but isn't the idea of a "hard batch" to make difficult files as in mid-FMO to mid-FGO, not "trollolol let's make something that won't get through the judges anyway" files?

              I just find it rather pointless to send mashmaterial here as a legit file, only to be cross to the judges when they say it's too difficult.
              "Herrherr but it's hard batch n stuff". Yes, hard, not dump.
              Last edited by SKG_Scintill; 11-8-2011, 06:12 AM.





              Originally posted by bluguerilla
              So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
              ___
              . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
              . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
              .

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              • iironiic
                D6 FFR Legacy Player
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2009
                • 4342

                #217
                Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

                Putting aside making the file easier (I agree that I should've done that):

                In Solros, most of my points were taken off because some of the 24ths didn't seem clear to what they are layering onto. Not all 24ths go to the tambourines in the song. In fact, the 24ths that are made easier to hit are intentionally layered to the drums (like rolling the drums).

                There are also a few other comments that were mentioned in the review that I want to talk about, but I'll take that outside of here.

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                • Xayphon
                  sausage
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1630

                  #218
                  Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

                  I can see myself playing Zombie Sunset everyday´

                  Love dat song <3

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                  • Reshiram
                    The Vast White Note
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • May 2011
                    • 1224

                    #219
                    Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

                    Originally posted by SKG_Scintill
                    Your Trisection was meant to be angry?
                    Sort of. More overtechnical though; the anger comes from the difficulty more than anything.

                    Originally posted by SKG_Scintill
                    Also, not that I have anything to do with this, but isn't the idea of a "hard batch" to make difficult files as in mid-FMO to mid-FGO, not "trollolol let's make something that won't get through the judges anyway" files?
                    Thought about that. Then I realized, this song deserves a file sickly difficult, yet AAA'able. I took some inspiration from Yesssss and kept the heavy jacks and speed factors, then added extra jumps and notes to emphasize some of the heavier noises. There isn't a 2-framer in there, and it's more or less an endurance round of jacks, speed, and consistency. I actually figured it had a legitimate shot to make it. My trollface is mostly directed at anyone who misinterprets my intentions with that file.

                    Originally posted by SKG_Scintill
                    I just find it rather pointless to send mashmaterial here as a legit file, only to be cross to the judges when they say it's too difficult.
                    "Herrherr but it's hard batch n stuff". Yes, hard, not dump.
                    Hang on, I'm cross with them now? When did I say I was cross? I'm not mad at all; I knew the implications of sending a file like this from the moment I sent it in. It's not like I had this false hope that it was a lock.

                    Also, this may be mash material, but it's a fairly legit file. Hard as hell and very overstepped, yes, but at least I showed some effort to make it fairly doable without being a total mashfag. :/

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                    • FFR4EVA_00
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1770

                      #220
                      Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

                      why hasn't dossar posted yet
                      ~*~Lurkadurk - 1134-7796-6967~*~

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                      • Reshiram
                        The Vast White Note
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • May 2011
                        • 1224

                        #221
                        Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

                        I actually have a general question to the judges. If I had cut every white note out of the song, would GB have been accepted?

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                        • SKG_Scintill
                          Spun a twirly fruitcake,
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 3877

                          #222
                          Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

                          Sorry Reshiram, despite the fact that the first sentence was pointed towards you, the rest of the post wasn't. Didn't want to double post and all that





                          Originally posted by bluguerilla
                          So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
                          ___
                          . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
                          . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
                          .

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                          • ninjaKIWI
                            plain old ugly ass dumbas
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 3305

                            #223
                            Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

                            So, pass means that they just didn't judge it right? What happens then?
                            Originally posted by Jewpinthethird
                            "Hey Keywii" Said Foil in a raspy voice.
                            "Hey Foil. What's that you got there?" inquired Keywii.
                            "Oh, just my cock." Replied Foil.
                            "That just will not do." was keywii's response as she lunged for the scissors, pulled the blades apart, and clamped them down on the base of foil's shaft. Blood start gushing out of the wound where his penis used to be.
                            "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" Yelled Foil in horror.
                            "Don't worry. I'm a wizard" uttered Keywii. And with that, Foil's penis grew back.

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                            • bmah
                              shots FIRED
                              Profile Moderator
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              Global Moderator
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 8448

                              #224
                              Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

                              Originally posted by ninjaKIWI
                              So, pass means that they just didn't judge it right? What happens then?
                              For this batch, if you've got 6 ratings for a song, that's all you need. If you have less than that, and the other is/are [PASS], you'll just have to wait as we sort things out...

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                              • ninjaKIWI
                                plain old ugly ass dumbas
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 3305

                                #225
                                Re: Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

                                Originally posted by kjwkjw
                                i love (orange things) (ninjaKIWI) 8/10 [+]
                                --------------
                                Playtest: Nicely done; that was very fun to play.
                                Editor: You may want to fade out the mp3 so the ending of the song doesn't come across as strange to people.
                                m. 40 (159.75) - ghost note?
                                m. 49 (192.50) - feels like there needs to be a note here - you decide (you might have to change the patterns around there a little bit).
                                Short Thoughts: i love (this file)
                                I'm debating stepping the ending but ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh~ it's weird. Thanks for the notes!

                                Originally posted by qqwref
                                i love (orange things) (ninjaKIWI) - 8/10
                                Playtest: Nice flowing stream/jumpstream parts, and some interesting patterns. Nothing too awkward, either.
                                Editor: There are a few spots where I'd like to see some extra notes: the last 4th note in m7, the end of m10 Normally I'd agree, but I've chosen not to step that percussion until later in the song (after the speed up), m23-24 I'm debating stepping the vocals here, but I'm still kind of iffy. All of the judges would seem to prefer that though so!, the 8th note just before m42 and two more after the first hand in m42Yes, thank you! I didn't notice those sounds but it fits nicely., and the very ending (after your last note).
                                Originally posted by nigs
                                I Love (Orange Things) (ninjaKIWI)
                                - File was early by 0.04. Global offset issue most likely.
                                - M23+ (Beat 88+) I feel you should've at the very least layered in the vocals. It'd be a better transition into M24+ and it wouldn't abruptly break the flow of the file like it does here.
                                - A lot of opportunity to use hands that you didn't quite take advantage of. I feel that the 4 hands you have in the file are random and don't really have much impact to the song.
                                - Layering's good for the most part. Nothing erroneous worth noting. Patterns flow fluidly.
                                [7/10]
                                Originally posted by bmah
                                i love (orange things) / ninjaKIWI
                                rating: 5/10 [+?]
                                - chart is too easy for this batch
                                - m7,10-11,13: missed arrow(s)/jump(s) to the drums and percussion
                                - m7-8,10,12-13: missed arrow right before the next measure (e.g. end of m7) to the bass drum. I see that you do this later on in the song, so perhaps you're just layering selectively? Yup. I hope that's okay, and doesn't seem too random or inconsistent?
                                - 30.29s: jump
                                - m23-24: too empty; fill up a little
                                - Summary: A very good file, but it's a bit too easy to accept in this batch. Please send it in again during a regular batch!
                                Man, I really wish I had more SAPs. I already have a dozen files ready for the next batch and 3 files per batch is going to clog me. FFR Winter pack, here I come.

                                Originally posted by bmah
                                For this batch, if you've got 6 ratings for a song, that's all you need. If you have less than that, and the other is/are [PASS], you'll just have to wait as we sort things out...
                                Oh, I see. Thanks!
                                Last edited by ninjaKIWI; 11-8-2011, 03:28 PM.
                                Originally posted by Jewpinthethird
                                "Hey Keywii" Said Foil in a raspy voice.
                                "Hey Foil. What's that you got there?" inquired Keywii.
                                "Oh, just my cock." Replied Foil.
                                "That just will not do." was keywii's response as she lunged for the scissors, pulled the blades apart, and clamped them down on the base of foil's shaft. Blood start gushing out of the wound where his penis used to be.
                                "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" Yelled Foil in horror.
                                "Don't worry. I'm a wizard" uttered Keywii. And with that, Foil's penis grew back.

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