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  • fido123
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2005
    • 4245

    #151
    Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

    Aldretron, you say the US isn't a democracy? If people wanted to they'd vote independent assuming you're talking about it being a two party system.

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    • Aldentron
      Forum User
      • Jul 2007
      • 828

      #152
      Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

      the usa is a republic. look it up for yourself if you want. be aware that there is a difference between a democratic republic and democracy.
      Originally posted by top
      what the hell happened to alden
      i remember a time when he wuz kewl

      like... wut

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      • Reincarnate
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        • Nov 2010
        • 6332

        #153
        Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

        Originally posted by Aldentron
        how have you answered all these questions accurately without feeling completely ****ing disgusted with the way this country works?
        I never said the country was perfect, but our system is pretty well set-up compared to the rest of the world. The problem is that the people who run it aren't the best and brightest. More often than not, the system is easily exploited by wealthier retards who are able to garner support. But hey, someone still has to vote them in. Ultimately, we, the American people, decide who to put into power.

        First recent example of this stupidity off the top of my head stream-of-conscious style: There was a Republican debate recently. Cain claimed that government bureaucracy would have killed him while he was seeking cancer treatment if the affordable healthcare act had been passed when he was diagnosed; the audience applauded. Huntsman presented a reasonable solution to amend the act, but nobody in the audience went for it. Bachmann repeated her unfounded HPV claim, and the audience applauded again. This is the kind of shit I am talking about.



        This interview, in particular, is spot-on regarding this point.

        The surest sign that Occupy Wall Street is beginning to scare the money party is this: Conservative activists have created a Tumblr called “We are the 53 percent” that’s meant to be a counterpunch to the viral “We are the 99 percent” site that’s become a prominent symbol for the Occupy Wall Street movement. The …


        "The greatest hoax of the last couple of decades has been the ability of the right wing to co-opt members of the struggling lower middle class and lower class and pretend they speak for them while enacting policies that enable the super-rich. They’ve used wedge issues like gay marriage and abortion and the baby Jeebus to alienate folks from their own economic interests, feeding them a steady diet of hatred of minorites, the educated, science, and, well, reality to create a voting block of people so guided by hatred of the “other” that they would crawl over broken glass to cut their nose off to spite their face."

        Again, like I said, if you want this to change, you need a smarter goddamn nation that will stop lining the pockets of complete retards.

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        • Aldentron
          Forum User
          • Jul 2007
          • 828

          #154
          Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

          so what do you suggest i do about that? why should i wait for these ignorant ****s to ramble on about their petty morality arguments when there are real issues around? the general action to execute when you think society is ****ed up is to protest, so that's what I'M doing. i don't care how many floppers and jackasses you find on youtube. i will always be an individual before being a part of any group.
          Originally posted by top
          what the hell happened to alden
          i remember a time when he wuz kewl

          like... wut

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          • Reincarnate
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            • Nov 2010
            • 6332

            #155
            Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

            Promote education and spread good information. Make difficult concepts easy to understand. Make sure you aren't spreading ignorance and fearmongering. Research.

            Protesting is only effective when you're getting people talking about the right things and asking the right questions and making the best choices when it comes to voting. If you're just protesting to say that you're angry, or wasting time bickering with police and trying to incite a scuffle, you're not really accomplishing anything.

            I'm not being facetious -- the best thing you can do is educate yourself. In turn, you help educate others and help bring about change. Write your representatives often and give clear, concise, cogent arguments. Vote responsibly. When you spend money, figure out who it is you're ultimately supporting. If you're a God-following anti-evolution crank who thinks lowering taxes on the rich is a good idea, you're part of the problem -- and if you're not sure why you're part of the problem, then you're illustrating why the problem is so hard to fix.

            The OWS movement is well-intentioned, but it's being diluted by tards and preventing it from being a much more substantial movement than it currently is.

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            • Aldentron
              Forum User
              • Jul 2007
              • 828

              #156
              Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

              perhaps you will be glad to hear that the fort worth occupy is based on information. i have held and continue to hold infoshops about the petroleum and pharmaceutical industries, other people do infoshops on the agriculture, war, education, etc. industries. everyone is invited to contribute their own information but we urge people to be weary of the information they hear because it may or may not be true. you get a lot of people who bring their bullshit blogs, but its obvious when some one actually did their research (e.g. students read their research papers concerning these subjects.) we also are working on organizing a people's library. dallas already has one.
              Originally posted by top
              what the hell happened to alden
              i remember a time when he wuz kewl

              like... wut

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              • Reincarnate
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                • Nov 2010
                • 6332

                #157
                Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore



                This is ****ing ridiculous, I must say.

                I have a friend who lives in Oakland and he was able to confirm for me that... it was pretty much a warzone over there.

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                • dag12
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 468

                  #158
                  Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

                  interesting. That was an Iraq war veteran?

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                  • Izzy
                    Snek
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 9195

                    #159
                    Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

                    I think people are forgetting the number one rule of campers. If you leave them alone they will get bored and go away. Giving them so much attention with the police and media is just giving them what they want. Oh well, guess that means everyone is happy.

                    Not like you can really solve "political corruption" by standing around.

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                    • Andrew Mitchell
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1135

                      #160
                      Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

                      they need to take a look at how citizens of libya handle business

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                      • fido123
                        FFR Player
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 4245

                        #161
                        Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

                        Why did everything break out like that? I assume the protesters got a little rowdy? I'm not siding with the police who hit the war vet in the head and threw the flash bang in the middle of people but it looks like some shit's going down.

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                        • Aldentron
                          Forum User
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 828

                          #162
                          Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

                          here is a blog being updated at Occupy Oakland, i do not vouch for any of the credibility but it seems legit.

                          it is in reverse chronological order so start at the bottom.
                          it does say that individual protesters threw paint and bottles at the officers. regardless, in the video, we see a group of people rushing to a man's aid bombed with tear gas. keep that in mind before you pick a side.
                          Last edited by Aldentron; 10-27-2011, 09:41 AM.
                          Originally posted by top
                          what the hell happened to alden
                          i remember a time when he wuz kewl

                          like... wut

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                          • fido123
                            FFR Player
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 4245

                            #163
                            Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

                            I think picking a side is the wrong way to go about it. For the most part I assume the police are doing a great job like they usually do. There's always those few bad apples though and that goes for everything but it's far more serious when it's somebody in a position of authority like a cop. I hope those cops are either fired or suspended and retrained dependIng on the details of the situation. As for the havok, the bad apples in the group of protesters responsible for throwing bottles is to blame for that.

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                            • Aldentron
                              Forum User
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 828

                              #164
                              Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

                              Originally posted by fido123
                              I think picking a side is the wrong way to go about it.
                              good for you. in the meantime, it seems like nearly every other poster in this thread IS picking sides. they seem to have done so based on non-factual and hazy-at-best evidence which has been represented to them through corporate media.
                              and on that note, i just happened across this article.

                              "Occupy Wall Street is not a movement without a message. It’s a movement that has wisely shunned the one-note, pre-chewed, simple-minded messaging required for cable television as it now exists. It’s a movement that feels no need to explain anything to the powers that be, although it is deftly changing the way we explain ourselves to one another.
                              Think, for just a moment, about the irony. We are the most media-saturated 24-hour-cable-soaked culture in the world, and yet around the country, on Facebook and at protests, people are holding up cardboard signs, the way protesters in ancient Sumeria might have done when demonstrating against a rise in the price of figs. And why is that? Because they very wisely don’t trust television cameras and microphones to get it right anymore. Because a media constructed around the illusion of false equivalencies, screaming pundits, and manufactured crises fails to capture who we are and what we value."
                              I confess to being driven insane this past month by the spectacle of television pundits professing to be baffled by the meaning of Occupy Wall Street....
                              Last edited by Aldentron; 10-27-2011, 12:06 PM.
                              Originally posted by top
                              what the hell happened to alden
                              i remember a time when he wuz kewl

                              like... wut

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                              • Reincarnate
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 6332

                                #165
                                Re: I don't want to live on this planet anymore

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