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  • midnghtraver
    Icarus Moth
    FFR Music Producer
    • Jan 2006
    • 2064

    #16
    Re: To my graffiti post.

    Originally posted by serious beef
    Nice! Now go put it up on a wall.
    I'm going to.

    Me and my friend found this totally blank wall, very easy to climb, like 35 feet tall and 150 feet wide.

    We're gonna paint the whole thing.

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    • darkshark
      Nothing.
      • Nov 2004
      • 4189

      #17
      Re: To my graffiti post.

      Please don't. Defacing other peoples property is not art.

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      • makdaddy
        FFR Veteran
        • Mar 2003
        • 1688

        #18
        Re: To my graffiti post.

        Originally posted by darkshark
        Please don't. Defacing other peoples property is not art.
        and on this note, i respectfully disagree.

        i mean, some people may look at graf and see a bunch of illegible letters and crazy colors, and dismiss it as "not art." and while i disagree with tagging private property (i.e. homes, cars, fences, etc.) graf on public property is just publicly displaying your imagination, creativity and skill (whether it's good or not depends on the artist).

        "Art - The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture."

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        • Mythix
          FFR Veteran
          • Oct 2006
          • 1045

          #19
          Re: To my graffiti post.

          Originally posted by makdaddy
          and on this note, i respectfully disagree.

          i mean, some people may look at graf and see a bunch of illegible letters and crazy colors, and dismiss it as "not art." and while i disagree with tagging private property (i.e. homes, cars, fences, etc.) graf on public property is just publicly displaying your imagination, creativity and skill (whether it's good or not depends on the artist).

          "Art - The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture."
          "Vandalism is the behaviour attributed originally to the Vandals, by the Romans, in respect of culture: ruthless destruction or spoiling of anything beautiful or venerable.[1] The term also includes criminal damage such as graffiti and defacement directed towards any property without permission of the owner."


          You're dumb and fooling nobody but yourself if you believe violating "publicly" will justify vandalism, and expressing "human" creative skill and imagination does in no way walk hand in hand with having to do it against the law to get maximum attention, and position, especially when the majority of people are against it.

          I love graffiti, but ruining what does not belong to you simply because you, directly, are not the one paying to have it removed, or the wall raised in the first place, but personal organizations or tax contributors, and based on your preference on where graffiti should be, is wrong. And I disrespectfully disagree with you.
          Sometimes different opinions is valid, based on different point of views with generally valid points, but sometimes it's just wrong; you're the latter.

          That piece in particular is O.K as a sketch, but is at no point close to being at the level of which graffiti is considered art and a pleasure to peoples eyes rather than grey walls.

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          • serious beef
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 3

            #20
            Re: To my graffiti post.

            Who gives a shit if you call it art or not? And who gives a shit if other people think graffiti is "right or wrong". That stuff doesn't really matter. What matters is that graffiti is fun! Do what you can, do what you want and don't get caught! Whatever you do, do it with heart!

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            • makdaddy
              FFR Veteran
              • Mar 2003
              • 1688

              #21
              Re: To my graffiti post.

              ^this guy haha

              and Mythix....get off Darkshark's balls

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              • justin_ator
                🥓<strong><span style="col
                • Mar 2007
                • 7648

                #22
                Re: To my graffiti post.

                While I agree a lot of graffiti is cool to look at and takes a particular skill, I have to side with darkshark and Mythix that other people's property is really not the place to display it.

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                • MarioNintendo
                  Expect delays.
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4179

                  #23
                  Re: To my graffiti post.

                  Originally posted by justin_ator
                  While I agree a lot of graffiti is cool to look at and takes a particular skill, I have to side with darkshark and Mythix that other people's property is really not the place to display it.
                  Indeed.

                  If I built my blank wall, I expect people to respect it! If I were to find some kid graffiti it, I assure you, I wouldn't think a mere second about if what he did was art or not!

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                  • darkshark
                    Nothing.
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 4189

                    #24
                    Re: To my graffiti post.

                    Graffiti is art, I'm not questioning that at all. If you're going to go and do some sort of large scale shit on a wall, go get permission from the owner. Or here's an idea, cover the damn wall with paper so you don't ****ing deface someone else's property with paint. Then you can both respect other people's hard work that went into building the structure, and everyone else can respect the hard work that went into creating your art.

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                    • makdaddy
                      FFR Veteran
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1688

                      #25
                      Re: To my graffiti post.

                      Originally posted by darkshark
                      Graffiti is art, I'm not questioning that at all. If you're going to go and do some sort of large scale shit on a wall, go get permission from the owner. Or here's an idea, cover the damn wall with paper so you don't ****ing deface someone else's property with paint. Then you can both respect other people's hard work that went into building the structure, and everyone else can respect the hard work that went into creating your art.
                      truth, i like how you put that haha

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                      • midnghtraver
                        Icarus Moth
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 2064

                        #26
                        Re: To my graffiti post.

                        Originally posted by darkshark
                        Graffiti is art, I'm not questioning that at all. If you're going to go and do some sort of large scale shit on a wall, go get permission from the owner. Or here's an idea, cover the damn wall with paper so you don't ****ing deface someone else's property with paint. Then you can both respect other people's hard work that went into building the structure, and everyone else can respect the hard work that went into creating your art.
                        1. That was the plan. 2. The city is unsure who actually owns the wall. And 3. the only way you'd be able to see it (from this path that runs like 100ft away from it) is if I cut down all the trees in between.

                        Its more for the satisfaction. I've never spray painted before, so i'm not good at it. Meaning I'm not gonna go do an awful piece on the side of a bank or some shit.

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                        • makdaddy
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1688

                          #27
                          Re: To my graffiti post.

                          Originally posted by midnghtraver
                          I've never spray painted before
                          WHAT!? go out right now and get some practice before you do a large piece. you won't be awesome the first time, i promise.

                          no one is.

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                          • midnghtraver
                            Icarus Moth
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 2064

                            #28
                            Re: To my graffiti post.

                            Whhhhhhhhhich is why i'm doing it on a wall no one can see!

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                            • who_cares973
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 15407

                              #29
                              Re: To my graffiti post.

                              Build your own practice walls before going to hit up an actual one

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                              • darkshark
                                Nothing.
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 4189

                                #30
                                Re: To my graffiti post.

                                The city will never give you permission to do graffiti. Ever.

                                Go buy some paper, practice at home.

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