BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

[carlin]

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I am completely against having holds and mines. I play this game because there are neither of those things. Mines take away from the rhythm game experience in my opinion. They make the screen confusing and they make it so you have to avoid something instead of keeping your fingers moving with the flow of the arrows. Maybe some people think that is fun, but I do not. It just makes it more annoying. Holds are fine in stepmania and DDR, but we don't need them here. This game has always been just as good without them. I don't see holds as an innovative step in the progression of FFR.
As others have said, having these two would be ok as optional mods that you can turn on and off, but not as permanent parts of the game.

Something I do think would be good is adding the marvelous accuracy point. It would add an extra level of accuracy to the game and we wouldn't have to go to stepmania every time we need to practice our accuracy.

[Frank Munoz]

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If mines or holds were added in this game, I would most likely quit. I'm dead serious. Don't ruin FFR like that.

Don't do it bro'. For the sake of DossarLX ODI. Just don't do it.

[Zageron]

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Adding marvellous as a visual and statistical option seems to be very popular. As it stands with the poll, marvellous will not count for any form of points.
However, an option is it could be used for: Sorting, as Halo said; Very high level tourns; and possibly tokens. As is, it would be entirely optional and hidden by default.

[igotrhythm]

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ACC: Marv/Perf/Good/Avg/Miss/Boo
For some people, I can see how "AAAing is just too easy", and adding a Marvelous timing on the exact frame would add more challenge, thus more replayability.

DIFF: Multiple difficulties per song
Hey, if ThirdStyle did it, and it was done with widget files, why not with BlackWebb?

MULT: 2 Player Multiplayer Only
I don't want this turning into SMO.

No to mines or holds. Mines are simulated well enough with the boo mechanic (indeed, I think hurting one's score AND life for hitting a boo is something that sets FFR apart), and holds have been tried before with the R2 engine...you had to hold all of it.

[laughsitup2005]

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In my opinion, I think that having the marvelous timming with the current state of the engine is just dumb. It is kind of hard enough to play with the laggy fps as it is.

[TC_Halogen]

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With decent computer specs, FFR's older engines run fine on a standalone player. This one will more than likely run a lot better.

[i love you]

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Accuracy: Keep current system. Other games have done marvelous (KBO and SM specifically) and I find that it just creates more of a disconnect between the typical player and the topmost players. You're struggling to FC some VC or something, and you look and see that AlexDest has a quad on it. I think adding Marvelous to the scoring would be a bad idea, but I could see a use for it if it's just displayed for statistics' sake.

Difficulty: Single difficulty per song, because the TS style of forced multiple charts means that charts tend to be more rushed. But I do think we should be less strict towards the option of multiple charts for a song, especially if they are all good.

Arrows: 4 arrows only. I'm sure Solo is fun but it seems to, again, just create a bigger disconnect between the typical player and the crazy insane players - it takes a lot more work to read a dense 6key pattern than a dense 4key pattern, and I don't think a lot of people will bother to get to that skill level.

Multiplayer: More than 2, for sure Make it like SMO, perhaps, so it shows scores but doesn't show everyone playing at once, for lag purposes.

Mines and holds: No and no. Mines just add visual complexity to a file, making it harder to read, and this is one problem I have with TS and their xmod stuff (it's fake difficulty). Also, we already have a boo system, which is like having mines everywhere. And holds are just annoying too, because I find that most people nowadays overuse them with miniholds and holdstream patterns, and end up just making the song harder to read/hit for no real reason. Plus, KBO, TS, and SM already have holds - I'd rather keep FFR unique.

This is basically everything I wanted to say for the most part. 100% agree with this.

[LightArrow]

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For mines, just because SM has some mines on levels. It can be deactivated through the menu though. As for holds, FFR2 and SM have this. It makes the song more challenging, and trickier. The difficulties probably won't stay at 13 at max with holds.

[TK_unreal]

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ACC: Marv/Perf/Good/Avg/Miss/Boo
This would give players more of a reason to focus on accuracy, rather than just the FC.

DIFF: Multiple Difficulty per Song (On one menu)
I'm agreeing with Bmah on this selection, it would make AAA'ing every song quite boring.

ARR: 4 or 6 arrows on some songs
There is no reason there shouldn't be an option to increase the difficulty, and have the option to add more keys.

MULT: 2 or MORE Player Multiplayer
Having more competition is just more fun, it would surely boost the Multiplayer from noticing the majority of the players have voted this.

[Ksl33zy24]

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cuz holds would be fun

[sn0wMk]

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I want mines and holds to make it more fun, or make the chart fit more.

[Xenorosth]

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I put my opinions down, but I'm only going to bring up mines and holds. Mines are for songs you want to prevent people for mashing. However, I understand that if every masters only song had mines, it'd be stupid. I sugest making mines only for token songs.

For freeze, the reason I believe there should be freeze is because it 'fits' the song more accurately, making subtle notes more noticeable, and would open up more songs to being stepped in a new and interesting way.

[FGO]

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I think it would be a great idea to have holds and mines as an optional mod.

^

Also, I like Marvelouses, and different difficulties.
Holds are stupid. But I like them ONLY IN STEPMANIA.

[nois-or-e]

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I like how some people in here are assuming that BW is going to replace ffr and change all previous files to suit it.

[Patashu]

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I like how some people in here are assuming that BW is going to replace ffr and change all previous files to suit it.

Wait this isn't the big 'convert as many FFR files to a new engine as possible so they're not frame quantized weird things' project?