Final Fantasy 13

[Soul.]

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People hate it because of the disc 2 endboss.

He was okay until he turned orphan and started to kick my ass.

[supermousie]

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I loved it... Pulse was pretty good, but really, it was a big grassy field full of fluffy animals with chainsaws for teeth, machine guns for reproductive organs, and cyanide for blood. Was the disc 2 endboss Barty on the rusty bridge?

Graphics were great, music was great (albeit recycled through various themes), loved the battle system...

Orphan (not the freak mutant one) was shit easy to beat.

edit: forgot about that whiny ****** Hope. It's always "I hate everyone" or "We're all going to die" with that guy. He even had the gonads to hate on Snow.

[Quigly]

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after chapter 11 the game became ****ing incredible.
especially the cyrstarium ffkjhdfiduhfdisuhf it made increasing your level so pretty.

i've beaten the game and every mission save the last one, and i am very content with it.
even though hope is a bitch but whatevs~

[xealix]

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Personally loved 13, not because of the story however. I am not saying it was bad, but it wasn't great by any means. I loved the change in pace that the game brought through the battle system. It was fun, new, and always had me on my toes. It's not like I could leave and come back and still be alive. As much as i love classic turned based style i enjoyed this just as much, and I think that is rare.

Secondly, I know that had any other name been slapped on this game die hard fans would not be complaining about how different it was. It probably would have been met with much more praise. It wasn't a traditional Final Fantasy, but it was amazing none the less.

Only complaint that I have is the freedom of the game. I hate RPG's that give the player almost no freedom and this what this game felt like to me. The side missions were all kill this monster, and not even able to be done till late chapter 11. Although I did enjoy completing them all. Last one is fun as hell to fight. People say there was freedom in character customization, but after you max out your characters they all feel the same. Were it not for specification to certain classes within each character there wold have been no need to even switch them out. I am hoping these problems are fixed in the next installment. I know I will be getting it either way just because of the name.. Which makes me feel sad inside. xD

[ChrisReams]

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I loved Final Fantasy 13. Haters gonna hate. I think it was great for many reasons. It's too late for me to elaborate on those reasons, but I put countless hours into it.

Also to the guy that said he hasn't tried it because he doesn't trust any FF game after 10... How do you know if something's worthy or not without trying it. I think it's silly to not want to play a game because you have some sort of vendetta about past shiz. Take in everything in life. Even if you end up thinking it's bad, it's experience and knowledge to add to your arsenal.

[MopeyJoe]

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Also to the guy that said he hasn't tried it because he doesn't trust any FF game after 10... How do you know if something's worthy or not without trying it. I think it's silly to not want to play a game because you have some sort of vendetta about past shiz. Take in everything in life. Even if you end up thinking it's bad, it's experience and knowledge to add to your arsenal.

It's not that I hate the games before 10, in fact I love all the FF games I've played before 11 (1, 4, 7, 8, 10). It's just I haven't played anything after that because of two reasons:

1: Money issues
2: I've heard mixed reviews about XII and XIII but haven't heard anything about XI.

My brother hated XII because of the battle system on how it was real-time and there was a line that showed enemies hiding (he didn't hate it because it was real-time, but because it had a mix of the two things I just mentioned). He said it completely ruined the enemies surprise attacks, making the game too easy.

[Reach]

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I thought it was great. Sure, I think it could have been better...I think it certainly had the potential to be the best game in the series. It didn't meet that mark though, and I think people focus on that more than some of the amazing features in this game for some reason.

Pulse was fantastic, and honestly I do definitely feel the entire game should have been structured similarly. It would have taken the game to an entirely new level by simply removing the feeling of linearity. Other than that though, the game wasn't any more restrictive than a lot of the other FFs in many respects. Replay 9, 10, 10-2, hell even some of the older ones for that matter; many of them are surprisingly linear if you're looking for it. They, however, have the illusion of being non-linear, whereas 13 does not


On the plus side, FF13 has what I would consider to be the best battle system in the series, some of the most epic battles in the series, an interesting story line with great voice acting and cinematics (seriously, how was it NOT one of the best stories in the series? Talk about glorified memories of the old games; replay them, the stories really aren't that great), a finely tuned difficulty and flow to the game, among other things. It was just a lot of fun to play. It's sad that it missed the mark by such a small margin, only to take so much crap from people, but hopefully they get it right with 13-2.


I should get around to replaying 13 sometime. It's the only game in the series I haven't beaten at least twice now.

My brother hated XII because of the battle system on how it was real-time and there was a line that showed enemies hiding (he didn't hate it because it was real-time, but because it had a mix of the two things I just mentioned). He said it completely ruined the enemies surprise attacks, making the game too easy.

Everyone has an opinion. Form your own. 12 was one of my favorites in the series, and I've played them all (multiple times).

It was also reviewed HIGHLY favorably by reviewers. Why trust the opinion of your brother?

See: IGN (9.5): http://ps2.ign.com/articles/741/741991p1.html

Gamespot (9.0): http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/fina...y12/index.html

12 was amazing on so many levels. Check it out!

[MopeyJoe]

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It was also reviewed HIGHLY favorably by reviewers. Why trust the opinion of your brother?

See: IGN (9.5): http://ps2.ign.com/articles/741/741991p1.html

Gamespot (9.0): http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/fina...y12/index.html

You should know better than to trust famous review sites like IGN and Gamespot. They gave games like Homefront a 9 while the average player gave it anywhere from a 4 to a 6.

And I'm going to trust my brother's opinion because he knows what he is talking about and actually owned the game at one point, and he just hated it.

[euphoriakisses]

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I absolutely loved Final Fantasy 13, I thought it was incredibly well done and well thought out. The one thing I like the most about it is that it's a combined effort of previous games. I loved every single one of the characters and how their stories were all special and unique.

The Paradigm/Crystarium systems took some time to get used to but after you get the hang of things, it was definitely one of the better battle systems in FF history (better than the Sphere grid, Garment Grid (****ing joke), etc.)

It took me all of last summer to beat it but it was definitely worth it and nowhere near a disappointment. Not to mention the graphics were amazing. Just talking about it makes me want to go play it again.

[Reach]

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You should know better than to trust famous review sites like IGN and Gamespot. They gave games like Homefront a 9 while the average player gave it anywhere from a 4 to a 6.

And I'm going to trust my brother's opinion because he knows what he is talking about and actually owned the game at one point, and he just hated it.

Um, there are 22,000 user votes on gamespot, with an average rating of 9.1.

You're putting all of your stock into one opinion, and then using anecdotal evidence of homefront to prove a point that has nothing to do with anything.

Also, I just checked the ratings on both sites. Both of the sites gave it a 7.0, and both sites had reviewer averages between 6 and 7 across all systems.


Your loss.

[perkeyone]

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@reach
dont you think its a bit harsh to assume he was lying? he may have made a mistake or the rating site may have changed its information. is it really that unreasonable to trust the opinion of someone you know well who likely has the same interests in videogames?

[Reach]

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@reach
dont you think its a bit harsh to assume he was lying? he may have made a mistake or the rating site may have changed its information. is it really that unreasonable to trust the opinion of someone you know well who likely has the same interests in videogames?

He probably wasn't (intentionally) lying, but I don't see the point in citing something as apparently fact in order to make a point when you've got your numbers wrong.


And yes, it's almost always unreasonable to trust a single opinion on anything.

With that said, it's not like I really care if he plays it or not. I'm just saying that he may want to consider forming his own opinions rather than making judgments based on very limited information.

[MopeyJoe]

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And yes, it's almost always unreasonable to trust a single opinion on anything.

In other words, you using Gamespot reviews or IGN reviews to try and convince me to play these games was a terrible idea in the first place.

Point being, I can't play any of the recent games because I have no money. Not even enough to rent them. And I don't know anyone with a copy that I can borrow from.