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Originally Posted by Izzy
yea except they have to be perfect to "them". It's pretty much entirely subjective after the point of the file being synced and not having notes go to nothing etc..
I like files being different then them so oh well I guess.
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Originally Posted by psychoangel691
I was going to say pretty much the same thing. What actually defines "perfect" for a file? With such a vast difference in opinion on subjective things you can't even really call something a "perfect" file.
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Originally Posted by TC_Halogen
I was subjective, but I'm capable of admitting that I was, and if you look at my notes, you'll even see that files with SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS of notes/fixes requested still ended up getting no lower than a [+?] because I'm able to separate between what should be there in my opinion, and what should be there in accordance to how the rest of the simfile is. Stop acting like I'm reacting like this because of this file - there's other files from the previous batch that got knocked down a ridiculous amount for stupid reasons, like song choice. There's even some files that had small amounts of errors and still got a [-].
But hey, I don't know a thing about judging or whatnot. I'm arguing with someone who thinks their opinion is right and nothing else because they couldn't even bother to address the issues that I pointed out -respectfully- like I asked to.
I'm done judging FFR files - if people are going to sit here and cut each other's throats off because they can't tell the difference between judging off of their preferences and what's right, then what the hell is the point. I love how the argument of subjectivity is coming out entirely because I choose -now- to speak up, rather than trying to focus on why people's votes are too -overly- subjective.
The rest of the judges can go have fun doing what they want. I feel sorry for the really strong judges who are consistently good because they know what they're doing having to deal with ratings that deviate ridiculously without justified reasons whatsoever. Apparently, getting a legitimate discussion when I actually asked questions about how to FIX something is a complete waste of time because some judges won't even bother to give a straight answer. What's the point?
Seeking perfection in simfiles is going to get you ABSOLUTELY nowhere because the users who are playing your game will not notice a good amount of the details that people are putting in.
Find another judge for me, I'm not judging on this team until I see a change in people's attitudes. It's not everyone, but there's people on the team who I simply don't agree with being on it for reasons of not being active with the site, not caring about the game, or not legitimately wanting to help someone out because they feel like flaunting around their elitism when no one gives a shit.
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1.) You guys lost a judge.... A damn good judge at that. Just because he wanted his gf to get her first FFR file in game doesn't mean he is just defending her for the hell of it. Aj has a lot of good stepcharts for both FFR and SM AND ITG.... I think he knows what the hell he's doing. For him to actually go over and shadow things on that file, I'm sure he damn well listened more in depth than anything.
2.) Personally, I LOVED The Final Hour. I'm not judge, don't get me wrong, and I don't have a file in FFR, rather 2 1/2 on the DF Engine, but I think what Kayla did was ****ing perfect. That's my opinion, she did what she did because SHE felt it to be the best file she wanted it to be. Not to mention, when that file came out in one of the DF Tournaments when FFR was down, did you guys see the damn compliments? EVERYONE was telling her how amazing the file was. I don't give two ****s if they aren't FFR Judges or anything, take that of the community in with your own reasons. If you just reject the file based on one/two/three peoples mentality what's that to say of the community?
Here an example:
AJ creates a Stepfile for a rock song "Disturbed = Believe." 99% of the community LOVE the file that he had shown to them offline. 3/4 judges come in and give it an 11. Don't you think the community would be like "really? WTF Elitist assholes."
If the file was completely retarded don't get me wrong. Overstepped, off sync, notes being filled in empty spots, BPM changes ridiculously ....whatever, than I understand it. But, if it IS a good file to us (the community) Than why not just suck it up and put it in? What makes The Final Hour different from .... For FFR? Or any other Synthlight songs? Yeah they are history for FFR, so why can't The Final Hour be?
3.) I agree the strictness needs to subside just a bit.
4.) Kommi's rating system is beast. Personally that's a HUGE thing I believe and apparently with others, would be fantastic in judging. But, still, there will always be subjectiveness.
I personally don't know what more to say about it. Somehow I knew that because Kayla is Aj's fiance, that would get thrown into the mix. I'm completely against that. 100%. Kayla knows what she is doing, and so does AJ, no need to get personal about it. nuff said.