Passing away of Steve aka Jellygod

[ichliebekase]

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You guys didn't understand what jchin was saying. It's not about putting your own feelings ahead of the deceased. It's the fact that somebody is suicidal doesn't think about those he or she leaves behind. Nobody's arguing that anybody's feelings are more important than anybody else's and such an argument is petty and childish.

And you're missing the point. This thread is about jelly.

You misunderstood me, actually. I hadn't of read anything else that was written to be honest. I read what YieldSign wrote, knew that people I know say that "suicide is selfish" and yes, they have their own reasons for thinking it is. I was directing my comment towards them without pointing out names. I think that people need to think about what YieldSign wrote.

No harm meant against anyone in this thread to be honest, at least from me.

[robertsona]

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It's the fact that somebody is suicidal doesn't think about those he or she leaves behind.

but this is completely false. i mean i don't really want to argue this obviously because it's sort of tarnishing a thread that's supposed to be in memory of someone we all loved but to say that someone contemplates suicide doesn't think about the effect it will have on those around him/her isn't even, like, close to the truth. it's pretty much just completely wrong

[Reincarnate]

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I disagree. Suicide *is* selfish. But so is discrediting the problems of someone who wants to commit suicide. To be selfish is to put your own needs/thoughts/opinions above others -- without empathy.

You may be in quite a lot of pain, but killing yourself means that you are going to tear apart those that are close to you. Losing someone is very, very hard -- emotionally, intellectually, psychologically, financially, logistically, and spiritually.

Similarly, though, it's just as tactless to say "suicide is cowardly and is reserved for those that can't deal with their own problems." Such armchair logic is laughable -- sometimes problems can be so immense to the point where living is suffering. We have a natural inclination to live... you have to be suffering quite hard deep down in order to ever *seriously* attempt to take your own life.

It's selfish on both sides. It's always sad, and it's always a shame. People love us more than we'd care to acknowledge sometimes, and all it takes is a simple reaching out to get the help you need. That's what friends and family are for. It's so unfortunate that jellygod felt that this was his only way out.

[~HentaiXXX~]

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I wish he would have at least talked to somebody about whatever it was that was ailing him...maybe we could have helped.

[Rubin0]

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I can't believe people are even arguing in this thread. This thread was created to mourn the passing of an FFR member, not debate over whether he was selfish or not. If you want to debate over the morality of suicide, then go to Critical Thinking.

[fastfingers65]

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Take that ish to critical thinking, guys. We're here to honor the memory of Steve.

[All_That_Chaz]

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Take that ish to critical thinking, guys. We're here to honor the memory of Steve.

My sentiments exactly.

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=116191

I'm giving a general warning right now. If any flaming starts from this argument here or in CT, I'm going to be handing out bans.

[Eternal_0]

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I didn't really talk to him all that much, but he was a genuinely friendly guy to me. I just don't know what else to say other than how terrible this is, and how I wish it didn't happen.

Rest In Peace, Jelly. You'll be missed here, too.

[Windscarredfaith]

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Jelly. :[ You were always so nice. I agree with everyone that you seemed so cheerful. Please rest in peace, dude. Condolences to your friends and family.

[Devilution]

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RIP. my thoughts go out to his family and friends.

[G.S.M]

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Sorry to hear that! My condolences to family and friends.

[Karee456]

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Rip man <3 .

[sweet2kill210]

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Wow, just reading comments about him made me sad and a little shaken. I wish I got to know him, it seems that everyone thought he was really nice. My deepest condolences go to his family and friends.

R.I.P. Steve.

[1mpuls3]

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R.I.P Stephen. My condolences to his family and friends.

[Riotpolice]

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I didnt really know him at all... But, if he is as great as everyone says he was, then he might have been a close friend of mine. Have a good life in Heaven.