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  • Izzy
    Snek
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2003
    • 9195

    #16
    Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

    Originally posted by Sir Psycho
    How is it cheap to use a mouse?
    Because it makes aiming really easy. Point and click. Just hold your cursor over the thing you are shooting at.

    Makes me imagen how unfair a tablet PC would be. Just click on the screen to shoot what you click.

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    • sjoecool1991
      FFR Player
      • Mar 2006
      • 2302

      #17
      Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

      PS2, lol.
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      • Squeek
        let it snow~
        • Jan 2004
        • 14444

        #18
        Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

        Originally posted by Izzy
        Because it makes aiming really easy. Point and click. Just hold your cursor over the thing you are shooting at.

        Makes me imagen how unfair a tablet PC would be. Just click on the screen to shoot what you click.
        Clearly someone completely unversed in PC gaming.

        A mouse isn't 'cheap'. It's the standard. They dumb games down for consoles because you guys can't get the fast reactions that PC gamers can get. I implore you to try playing a twitch game like Unreal Tournament 2004 and call it as simple as pointing and clicking. It's called a twitch game because you need insanely fast reaction times to even have a chance at winning. I won't even get into instagib mode gameplay.

        And a Tablet PC is absolutely dreadful for PC gaming. It could never even come close to matching what a good mouse can do.

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        • Izzy
          Snek
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2003
          • 9195

          #19
          Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

          I don't know why you are assuming I've never played a game on a computer and that I have a slow reaction time.

          Just because you consider the mouse the standard difficulty of gameplay doesn't disprove that it is easier than a controller. This thread is asking an opinion of what you like and I like to play things on a controller because I personally feel that the difficulty level of using a mouse is to easy for what I believe it should be.

          Originally posted by Squeek
          They dumb games down for consoles because you guys can't get the fast reactions that PC gamers can get.
          You obviously just made that up. I don't believe game developers sit down and decide that they need to make a video game slower because the average console gamer has a slower reaction time.

          edit: Most of the games I would play probably wouldn't be shooters though. I would want to use a controller for anything other than rts games and mmorpgs. I would if I could be they never have controller support and/or there are way to many buttons that need to be pushed to fit on a controller.
          Last edited by Izzy; 11-5-2009, 01:49 PM.

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          • Squeek
            let it snow~
            • Jan 2004
            • 14444

            #20
            Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

            Originally posted by Izzy
            I don't know why you are assuming I've never played a game on a computer and that I have a slow reaction time.

            Just because you consider the mouse the standard difficulty of gameplay doesn't disprove that it is easier than a controller. This thread is asking an opinion of what you like and I like to play things on a controller because I personally feel that the difficulty level of using a mouse is to easy for what I believe it should be.



            You obviously just made that up. I don't believe game developers sit down and decide that they need to make a video game slower because the average console gamer has a slower reaction time.

            edit: Most of the games I would play probably wouldn't be shooters though. I would want to use a controller for anything other than rts games and mmorpgs. I would if I could be they never have controller support and/or there are way to many buttons that need to be pushed to fit on a controller.
            It's not that they make the game easier. Joystick controls have the limitations of spin time. If something is hitting you from behind, you can't just whip your mouse around and see behind you. You just hold the joystick and spin. It's akin to keyboard turners in wow.

            Since you can't turn around in half a second on a console version of a game, they have to compensate. If they don't, then the game is far too difficult for the wrong reasons.

            Not all game developers do this. If they develop the game for consoles and port it to PC (usually not the case), they may not compensate the other way around, making the game far too easy. Good developers, like Valve, do understand the differences between consoles and PCs and compensate in ways you don't ever notice.

            Also, the mouse is and always has been the standard aiming device used for shooters. The only things that have come close to replicating the functionality of a mouse+keyboard are the Wii remote + nunchuck, which do a terrible job of it, and light guns, which are decent but still lacking.

            With a keyboard and mouse, you control the body and the head separately. The body movements are handled with the keyboard and the head movements are handled with the mouse. Separate functions can be bound to keys reachable from both devices. This allows you full control of everything you need. You can strafe while shooting while running while jumping while pulling out a new weapon. With dual analog sticks, you're helpless to do more than two things at once. You're limited to four fingers, whereas keyboard and mouse can do up to 8, even 10 if you're good enough.

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            • NFD
              FFR Player
              • Nov 2007
              • 4715

              #21
              Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

              MrGiggles gifted me Counter Strike: Source on Steam <:

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              • Izzy
                Snek
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2003
                • 9195

                #22
                Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

                I don't know what kind of games you have played but the speed you can turn around is dependent on a sensitivity variable that most games let you change. You can very easy turn around instantly in a console game. Also you would have to be using a controller incredibly bad if you are only using your two thumbs to play. You would have your two thumbs on the two analog sticks at all times allowing you to move and aim in any direction plus your index finger for a couple of things that you don't need to do at the same time and you have your ring fingers for triggers.

                Most games including PC games wouldn't even let you press more then 4 things at once either way, so it doesn't really matter how many things you want to do at once.

                edit: It seems to me that it would be a lot less precise to turn that fast on a console game. That is why I think it is more difficult or takes more skill to accurately do it.
                Last edited by Izzy; 11-5-2009, 04:09 PM.

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                • phe0nixblade
                  Praise the sun mofo
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 4281

                  #23
                  Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

                  Originally posted by Izzy
                  I don't know what kind of games you have played but the speed you can turn around is dependent on a sensitivity variable that most games let you change. You can very easy turn around instantly in a console game. Also you would have to be using a controller incredibly bad if you are only using your two thumbs to play. You would have your two thumbs on the two analog sticks at all times allowing you to move and aim in any direction plus your index finger for a couple of things that you don't need to do at the same time and you have your ring fingers for triggers.

                  Most games including PC games wouldn't even let you press more then 4 things at once either way, so it doesn't really matter how many things you want to do at once.
                  But where they make it so you can turn instantly, they use auto-aim, whereas *most* PC FPS don't. I play tons of FPS on both Xbox 360 and PC, and I prefer it way more with a mouse.

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                  • SylverDragon
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 16

                    #24
                    Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

                    Personally Id go with my PS3 over my PC just simply cause my pc sucks :P But still, Im an rpg fiend, and the playstation has long been leader of developing some of the best rpg's the world has seen, just to name a few ... final fantasy (with nintendo aswell), grandia, kingdom hearts, xenosaga, and so on. Plus, in my opinion, console gaming is much more comfortable, and when going online, it definitely goes faster and plays better than my pc.

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                    • Kerushii-Dono
                      FFR Player
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 13

                      #25
                      Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

                      I have to go with the PS3 just because of the graphics, though they don't have many games that I'm dying to get. Little Big Planet is a good one though, it keeps you interested past the pre-made levels

                      I'd say the X-Box 360 but I always think of the red ring of death X.x

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                      • Kekeb
                        davai
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 2765

                        #26
                        Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

                        PC, competitive tf2

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                        • MrGiggles
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 2846

                          #27
                          Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

                          Originally posted by Izzy
                          It seems to me that it would be a lot less precise to turn that fast on a console game. That is why I think it is more difficult or takes more skill to accurately do it.
                          Late to the party, but nope Izzy. I mean, if a game for 360 is a straight port of a PC game, then it would be more difficult. But I view difficulty due to inferior control schemes as a bad thing. Most devs add subtle auto-aim and various other tweaks to help out a dual-stick player, so the skill level is about the same. Enemies shoot slower, everything tends to be more horizontally oriented, enlarged hitboxes, etc. Although, comparing "skill" requirements between them is ridiculous, really. Apples to oranges.

                          I prefer a controller for platformers and RPGs. Fighters, too. Everything else I try to get on PC if possible.
                          Last edited by MrGiggles; 11-13-2009, 11:38 PM.

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                          • adlp
                            FFR Veteran
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 1757

                            #28
                            Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

                            xbox for halo, rainbow six vegas 2, and MW2

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                            • Genisis
                              FFR Player
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 22

                              #29
                              Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

                              In my experience, PC takes a lot more skill than the console for FPS gaming. I started with Half-Life when I was 7, Team Fortress Classic when I was about 9 or 10 years old, then got into CS 1.6 and Source. It took insane amounts of practice to get into CAL in my 1.6 clan and do decently.

                              Then I'd go over to a friend's house, pop on to his console and destroy him at his own game (Halo, for example). The only shooter I have owned on a console is Perfect Dark, and I've barely played it (as awesome as it is). Then I would bring the friend over to my house to try gaming on a PC, and he'd get destroyed once again.

                              PC gaming is better in general, simply because of how much more flexible it is with its control scheme, whether it be an RPG, shooter, or strategy game. It demands a lot more from the gamer, but with that comes greater skill and performance. Give me a PC version any day. The only games I enjoy on consoles are arcade-style (like Castle Crashers) and I suppose if there were decent space combat simulators, I'd prefer them on the console (because then they would not have 350 different commands to learn, like Homeworld).

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                              • Superfreak04
                                D7 Elite Keymasher
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 2407

                                #30
                                Re: Xbox 360, PS3, or PC gaming?

                                Originally posted by NFD
                                MrGiggles gifted me Counter Strike: Source on Steam <:

                                Should have gotten CS 1.6
                                >.>

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