My 3D World - Or just the car.

[Mythix]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

There's really no "better" modelling program, it's just a matter of what you think works best for you. Modelling itself has little to do with the program, but with the creator's view and ingenuity. The program is just a tool to create the model.
I find Cinema4D best and easiest to work with, though I can work with maya too. 3DSM not so much, but I haven't messed around with that alot at all.


The model is not bad, but a few points bug me. It seems a bit blobby at some parts, like near the front wheel. And the heat thingies at the back (forgot what they're called lol) are pretty bleh. The seams of the heat thingy entrances are too tight, and should've been rounded off more if you get what I mean.
Where is the suspension? wheels and chassis are just floating right now lol.
I think it would've been better if you made the chassis in seperate parts, cause now it just seems like one giant whole (which it is right now) and doesn't resemble the veyron that much.

But that's just my 2 cents.

Also, cars have been done thousands of times. :P

I'll do the chev concept car next.. I liked to do this car since it looks so nice with textures and so on.

As for the air vents (xD) they're actually pretty good but they are for some reason reflecting the engine INSIDE the car, on the outer right wire. I don't know why and nothing I do will take it away.
The wireframe for the air vents are completely smooth with only three bezier corner (I've bent it) and the front is bevelled and duo colored. The engine has NOT been smoothed, keep that in mind :]

The wheels I'm pretty happy about, the tire it regular tube with mesh smooth (nothing tough there) since I'm trying to keep the polys under a million.

I've remodelled it from first wireframe, now it has a bottom, middle and shell, we'll see how that works out with enviroment reflection.

My biggest regret is that I didn't make it two piece, it's originally duo color but the side vents could have been SO much better if I only made the car in two pieces, perhaps even three with the roof.

[Mythix]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

I agree that all programs have some key features, but poly editing in 3DSM is -the- best modelling tool. Not that it really matters nowadays with all the sandboxing programs out there that can read any 3DS file but the ultimate freedom and the incredibly 'smart' connecting and point welding/creating is stunning...


Also I've rendered a ''blueray'' picture but I managed to hook the "two sided" on my car so there's millions of polys and the file is srsly bigger than all my saves combined I'll redo it xD

[darkshark]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

Although 3ds max is great for modeling some things, when it comes to ANYTHING organic, I'm sorry but 3ds max just kinda fails at that. ZBrush is its rival when it comes to that sort of thing. Maya beats the hell out of 3ds max as far as animation goes, as well as rigging setups.

As far as your Veyron goes, its alright for a first try! need to reallllly work on accuracy though, take your time to get each line right. Its also really useful to work with the model while meshsmooth is ON after you have your very basic outline. There's an option in it's submenu to have the original vertexes selectable, yet still show the smoothing result, so you don't have to go back and forth all the time. By looking at your mesh I can tell you don't understand how meshsmooth subdivides, which is essential in knowing how each surface is going to smooth out by what amount.

Really work on your textures and LIGHTING especially, because that's the only thing in your scene I can see that is absolutely horrendous.

[Mythix]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

Although 3ds max is great for modeling some things, when it comes to ANYTHING organic, I'm sorry but 3ds max just kinda fails at that. ZBrush is its rival when it comes to that sort of thing. Maya beats the hell out of 3ds max as far as animation goes, as well as rigging setups.

As far as your Veyron goes, its alright for a first try! need to reallllly work on accuracy though, take your time to get each line right. Its also really useful to work with the model while meshsmooth is ON after you have your very basic outline. There's an option in it's submenu to have the original vertexes selectable, yet still show the smoothing result, so you don't have to go back and forth all the time. By looking at your mesh I can tell you don't understand how meshsmooth subdivides, which is essential in knowing how each surface is going to smooth out by what amount.

Really work on your textures and LIGHTING especially, because that's the only thing in your scene I can see that is absolutely horrendous.

I used poly instead.

And yeah 3DSM is definitely best for material based complex objects, rigging and animating/physics in maya is so much easier it's actually laughable; the preset gravity in Maya is amazing.

I know about meshsmooth but I agree, I'm not completely sure how meshsmooth and turbosmooth divides up my object to smooth it, hence the scattered colors.
Also zbrush is mostly decal though, I can't see myself creating anything from scratch in zbrush or mudbox, just pimping it a billion times better and easier than I would in 3DSM for details as I said in another reply xD
Here are two new renders just for you DS:

[Brycexx]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

green to me by far looks the best.

[Mythix]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

green to me by far looks the best.

Green is the newest, the black is the absolutely highest res with max reflections and 4.5 billion polys and it just ****ed everything up, like the hood, it reflects my enviroment boxes like 4 times

[SithCait22]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

Use www.picturepush.com It doesn't reduce ANY quality when uploading.

[Mythix]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

Testing your link :] Giving it quite afew falloffs to test it


It's all good, but I can't decide wether it's better because it's scaled down (for some wtf reason) or because it's simply better =p

[SithCait22]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

Testing your link :] Giving it quite afew falloffs to test it


It's all good, but I can't decide wether it's better because it's scaled down (for some wtf reason) or because it's simply better =p

You can always just click the "full size" link on the picture and post that one. Truly test it.

[Brycexx]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

the purple one looks much cleaner than the others. reflections and such seem to blend alot better def the best one yet.

[Mythix]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

Your link on top, imageshack on bottom:




EDIT: Looks pretty alike to me, but then again, these two aren't highly as high res as my .TIF saves or the black ones I started with

[SithCait22]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

EDIT: Looks pretty alike to me, but then again, these two aren't highly as high res as my .TIF saves or the black ones I started with

Did you try uploading the .tif? I believe PP should let you up those files.

[Mythix]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

Did you try uploading the .tif? I believe PP should let you up those files.

No it would do all image types besides .tif which is really weird since it's up to 100 megabyte -.-

[Mythix]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.



New black render, compare it to the high gloss enviroment reflecting thing

[darkshark]

Re: My 3D World - Or just the car.

4.5 billion polys

Unless you have a 5 terrahertz computer with a matching graphics card, then your computer just crashed. Looking at your wireframe, that model isn't even in the millions yet.

Now instead of rendering it in 356658578 different colors, why not go back and refine it?