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  • DarkManticoreX2
    TWG Overlord
    • Apr 2005
    • 7355

    #3196
    Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

    Originally posted by Sprite-
    Who says everything has to be reachable? It's just there. It's not hurting you if no one can get it.
    It's not benefiting anyone either. There's absolutely no point in putting it that high

    Do you guys know what songs are going to be taken out yet?
    Last edited by DarkManticoreX2; 06-28-2009, 10:36 PM.
    AAA's = 800

    Originally posted by V
    Manti, I apologize for insulting you. Let the record show that I am a prickass douche, and not only that, but that I am a terrible player.

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    • Sprite-
      HAVE ME WITH VODKA
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2005
      • 7317

      #3197
      Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

      You wouldn't know if I didn't tell you. Stop whining ;p

      Edit: I can just say I changed it and you wouldn't ever know.
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      K I changed it. Can you tell the difference?
      Last edited by Sprite-; 06-28-2009, 10:37 PM.

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      • awein999
        (ಠ⌣ಠ)
        • Oct 2007
        • 4647

        #3198
        Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

        Originally posted by Sprite-
        You wouldn't know if I didn't tell you. Stop whining ;p

        Edit: I can just say I changed it and you wouldn't ever know.
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        K I changed it. Can you tell the difference?
        I like the idea actually, I don't think anyone should be able to get every single tier point
        Originally posted by Staiain
        i am super purple hippo

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        • Oni-Paranoia
          No fucks
          • Dec 2006
          • 2440

          #3199
          Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

          Originally posted by Sprite-
          You wouldn't know if I didn't tell you. Stop whining ;p

          Edit: I can just say I changed it and you wouldn't ever know.
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          K I changed it. Can you tell the difference?
          yea, and it hurt me deeply...

          EDIT: put it back to 100% (if its not already)

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          • Sprite-
            HAVE ME WITH VODKA
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2005
            • 7317

            #3200
            Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

            Ahhhhh how will you ever know!!?!?!?!?! I guess you gotta go AAA all of em now just to find out better start gogogogogo

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            • DarkManticoreX2
              TWG Overlord
              • Apr 2005
              • 7355

              #3201
              Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

              Unattainable goals make me angry.

              Whatever happened to listening to constructive criticism around here. someone makes a point and it's automatically disregarded if it's contrary to someone else's point of view.

              I'm not trying to complain or whine, I'm trying to give suggestions to make it better.
              AAA's = 800

              Originally posted by V
              Manti, I apologize for insulting you. Let the record show that I am a prickass douche, and not only that, but that I am a terrible player.

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              • Sprite-
                HAVE ME WITH VODKA
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2005
                • 7317

                #3202
                Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                Nothing is impossible!!! Keep saying things are impossible and then you'll suck. As awein said, no one should be able to max out tier points. There should always be a higher goal.

                Edit: We used to listen to constructive criticism???? That's news to me.
                Last edited by Sprite-; 06-28-2009, 10:47 PM.

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                • mnnicol
                  U mirin'?
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 4262

                  #3203
                  Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                  I say keep it at 100% for ****s n giggles personally.

                  And completely off topic, but Sprite, you want to be a babe and unban me from MP please?
                  - Retired Stepman
                  - I lift things up and put them down

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                  • DarkManticoreX2
                    TWG Overlord
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 7355

                    #3204
                    Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                    Originally posted by Sprite-
                    Nothing is impossible!!! Keep saying things are impossible and then you'll suck. As awein said, no one should be able to max out tier points. There should always be a higher goal.
                    If you subscribe to the nothing is impossible theory there really is no hope for you. Go tell a young kid who's father's been dead for his whole life that nothing is impossible. If he tries hard enough, he can bring his dad back from the dead.

                    There are impossible to win situations.

                    Originally posted by Sprite-
                    Edit: We used to listen to constructive criticism???? That's news to me.
                    Must have been before you got your big mod head.
                    AAA's = 800

                    Originally posted by V
                    Manti, I apologize for insulting you. Let the record show that I am a prickass douche, and not only that, but that I am a terrible player.

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                    • Vanilla Mnm
                      cavs
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 3258

                      #3205
                      Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                      Oh, this is gonna be good.

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                      • Sprite-
                        HAVE ME WITH VODKA
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 7317

                        #3206
                        Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                        Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
                        If you subscribe to the nothing is impossible theory there really is no hope for you. Go tell a young kid who's father's been dead for his whole life that nothing is impossible. If he tries hard enough, he can bring his dad back from the dead.

                        There are impossible to win situations.



                        Must have been before you got your big mod head.
                        Yeah probably =/
                        My bad.


                        You should probably get me de-modded D:

                        I ruined FFR
                        Last edited by Sprite-; 06-28-2009, 10:59 PM.

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                        • qqwref
                          stepmania archaeologist
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 4092

                          #3207
                          Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                          I guess the problem with 100% is that since it's practically impossible - FGOs are more varied than they used to be, so I'd be REALLY surprised if anyone was good enough to AAA them all, and vrofl probably counts so good luck mashing rank 1 out of that - the scale wouldn't be any different if it went up to, say, 39, and then it's less aesthetically pleasing.

                          Also: 380ish AAAs is really too much (IMO) to give out a single TP for. It's definitely true that giving out TP bonuses for higher AAA counts will stop people from using large TP bonuses to make the jump to the next tier easier, but I think it's going to end up just being annoying. For people who are just starting to build up TP, I think asking 380 AAAs for a single point is just going to make the vast majority of people not try for AAAs at all. It's a huge thing to try to go for. It took me until well after my first VC AAA to accumulate 400 total AAAs and I've cared about my average rank since the beginning. I really think that setting the initial bar so high will make most people simply not bother with AAAing things at all (unless they've already got a few hundred), and, rather than giving a reward for being good, I think it will end up just being an annoyance for people who want a few extra points and realize they have to spend so much time playing easy songs just to get it.

                          Basically what I'm saying is that one TP is really not that much, even though 40 is. I think it'd be better to set the bar for one TP bonus a lot lower - maybe around 200ish, or 25%, or something similar - and then require a greater amount of AAAs for each subsequent point. That way, people would probably be more likely to make the jump to the first tier point, but it would require more effort for each additional one, so you wouldn't just be giving away large numbers of points to people who are willing to whore a bit.
                          Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                          Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                          Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                          • DarkManticoreX2
                            TWG Overlord
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 7355

                            #3208
                            Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                            Your not a bad mod, you just have a bloated ego because your both amazing at the game and a moderator of it.

                            Just make sure the list is objective for EVERY teir, not just the topmost ones. Thats really all I ask.
                            AAA's = 800

                            Originally posted by V
                            Manti, I apologize for insulting you. Let the record show that I am a prickass douche, and not only that, but that I am a terrible player.

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                            • Sprite-
                              HAVE ME WITH VODKA
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 7317

                              #3209
                              Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                              *reminding you that I did not decide any of these updates and that I simply added what I was given*

                              Damn my ego really affected that one sheesh you're right

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                              • TC_Halogen
                                Rhythm game specialist.
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 19376

                                #3210
                                Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 4/16/09

                                Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
                                If you subscribe to the nothing is impossible theory there really is no hope for you. Go tell a young kid who's father's been dead for his whole life that nothing is impossible. If he tries hard enough, he can bring his dad back from the dead.

                                There are impossible to win situations.

                                Must have been before you got your big mod head.
                                Ok--cut the crap, that was a bit too far and you know it.

                                I like the current system. Sure--I have every reason to complain too, I lost 17 AAA points, that's more than likely gonna take me some time to pick up. I actually like the fact that it's statistically against you to get 100% AAAs, but it isn't impossible.

                                "There's no way that a person can get all AAAs on every song."

                                Yeah, but there's a chance that a person can get rank 1 on every song. You want that 40th point? You have to dominate each and EVERY song in this game, with everyone aiming at you with a huge crosshair, waiting to pull you down.

                                It should stay that way. That makes the last point that much more elusive. Impossible? No.

                                Improbable? Most definitely.

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