World of Warcraft

[Tokzic]

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Holy ****.

First day at Vezax.

1%.

He enraged and wiped everyone but the tank with a Searing Flames.

God dammit god dammit god dammitttttt.

[Squeek]

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First day at Vezax.

We lost at 16% =(

Definitely need advice on this. We have:

Tank: DK
Melee DPS: Warrior, DK
Ranged DPS: MM hunter, Survival hunter
Caster DPS: EleSham, Destro Lock
Healers: Druid, Disc Priest, Holy Priest

We're trying to figure out who should be in his 15 yard radius and who shouldn't be, and who should be in the Crashes and who shouldn't be.

Edit: Scratch that. Think I came up with a working strategy. Gonna do a big triangle with melee and him at the top and two groups of 3 each (one caster, one healer (other than the holy), and one hunter per) and make sure the two other healers know what tricks they are allowed to use in the 75% healing reduction pools (PW:S and Lifebloom).

Anyway, I just now saw the video for Yogg. Alls I gotta say is: HOLY ****ING **** WHAT THE ****. That fight really does make Mimiron and Hodir look like a joke. At first I thought Hodir was damn hard because of all the things you had to pay attention to (toasty fire good, icicles bad, sunbeams good, freeze bad, shock good, flash freeze bad, dispel priest good, frozen blows bad...all while not stopping movement... damn), but it turns out that was just lack of information on our part as to how the fight worked. Nothing we read said Toasty Fires did anything other than keep Biting Cold off of you. Once we read about the Singed debuff, we knew what we were lacking and got him down in one try immediately after. Mimiron I will attribute to the nerfs mostly. Nobody died in phases 1 or 2. We lost someone to being instagibbed from an Assault Bot right near the end of Phase 3, but we b-rezzed him and had all 10 people up for phase 4. It was our first time seeing phase 4, and it was as easy as I thought it would be. Didn't have to do the "save the magnet" trick or the baby spice trick.

Yogg takes the cake though. Seriously, wow. Phase 1 seems alright. Not too bad. Phase 2 seems like HOLY ****ING HELL OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE. Phase 3 seems weird to me though. Why is there a phase 3 if he doesn't even do anything?

Anxious to try him, though I don't think we'll down him until next week. I guarantee I'll be posting tonight about our Vezax win.

PS Edit v2: One thing I've been meaning to say for a while now.

I'm kinda tired of some of these sites putting out tutorial videos. They sound all cool and collected and their videos make it look easy and it's supposed to be reassuring but honestly it's insulting. To show a Mimiron video where he doesn't even Laser Barrage in part 2... that's not a tutorial video. Maybe your DPS can pull 6k each, but we're struggling at 3k most of the time. And I highly doubt we're alone. Why don't any of these sites realize that strategy videos should be made with the people who actually NEED them in mind? It's nice to see the fight in advance, sure, but we can't exactly employ the same raid strategy as you. Our raid composition is different, our gear level is different, we have different personalities, etc. What if we didn't have a Priest or Paladin for phase 1? We don't have those protection cooldowns to use. What do we do? Why don't you mention these things? When there are only 2-3 healers for a fight, you can't just ASSUME we have priests and paladins. Sure, we figured out how to handle it on our own, but it would've been nice to have that mentioned.

There really should be someone who writes / shows guides to fights from the casual point of view. And maybe they should also show fights from the four points of view in a raid: Tank, Melee, Caster, and Healer. Showing me the POV from a tank really does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for me. Hell, even showing me the fight from a mage's point of view does nothing, because they're completely different classes. EleShaman can't DPS on the run like Mages can.

I guess the point I'm trying to make here is that if you're making a guide, it should be more than just a laundry list of the boss's abilities layered on top of a video of your super-leet raiding guild killing the boss. I've now seen the TankSpot and StratFu videos for Yogg and it's safe to say I could've gotten the same information from WoWWiki's list of abilities he does. How about providing some "we had problems with this and you might too" or "we found the best way to handle this was to do this". Then again, you don't exactly have problems fighting bosses with 50,000 raid DPS.

[v0lcom]

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I play wow
Opes-40 Hunter-Turalyon
Volcy-32-Rogue-Aerie Peak

[macgravel]

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Is this a game I should get into?

Y/N?

[Gun92]

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Yes

[Tokzic]

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If you like MMOs, this is the best one around.

EDIT: rofl in this other video we uploaded from us rocking 10 man hard modes i disconnected at the very start of the fight

and since i was out of range of heals, my health goes down to about 3% before i finally disconnect and it refills my bar

oh man

[tsugomaru]

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~Tsugomaru

[Squeek]

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First try, too.

Easy as hell when people pay attention.

Currently wiping to Yogg phase 1 repeatedly from an over-abundance of adds.

[Grandiagod]

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avoiding clouds is pretty important

[Squeek]

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Well aware.

They just spawn too fast. We're having problems not killing them before they're alone next to Sara, and then they just spawn faster and faster and faster and then we have too many alive and die.

[vpr0721]

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Hey guys!! How is everyone doing? Sorry for not posting a lot. Been busy with college and progression runs. Finally got Thorim down in 25 man after 3 days of wiping over and over. Right after that we downed Mim in less than an hour. Have to admit REALLY fun fight once you get the hang of it. Will continue to look forward to Mim everytime we encounter him. Some vids of our fights (Chief has a unique taste of music lol) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r30mHIeZ7_8 (mim) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbWJK2lHllk (thorim) My character is " Salty" Ninjamonkey AoS PvP (Alliance) http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...&n=Ninjamonkey
Our goal, Yogg down next week 25 man. Feel free to pst me anytime i might hop on and pst you guys as well.

[Kagome]

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We stop all DPS on them at around 60-50% then have only ranged nuke them once they are under Sara. Make sure you have ranged interrupting (Mages and shaman) dark volley when your tanks are bringing them to Sara.

[Squeek]

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See, we're trying that, but the range on Earth Shock is so short (20 yards) that I have to walk into the cloud area to finish them off. Then I run the risk of being MC'd into a cloud.

Our plan was to get them to about 75,000 hp then stick all the dots we could on them while they were being dragged to sara. We found out Dark Volley has a max range and will only affect the tank when he was pulling it away, so there was no reason to pursue it.

Our problem was simply that sometimes the add would sit there for so long that two more would spawn (not from people touching the clouds, mind you). We also run the risk of the add MCing the tank while waiting for it to die.

[tsugomaru]

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Squeek, I can't dodge the family bullet. I have to take care of a 12 year old, I won't be able to make the Naxx 25 run tonight or most raids until Thursday. =[

~Tsugomaru

[Tokzic]

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Squeek, I can't dodge the family bullet. I have to take care of a 12 year old, I won't be able to make the Naxx 25 run tonight or most raids until Thursday. =[

~Tsugomaru

don't you have a guild forum you can say this on