Too fat or attention-seeking?

[Mech Dragon]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

The actual point I was trying to make was that I thought that the world revolved too much around looks. If you disagree with that, then say so. But don't post something that we already knew. And as for the question I was asking, do you agree with that?

Ohhh, I apologize. Actually, yes, I do think the world is too revolved with looks.... as a matter of fact, humans themselves are too revolved around looks. For example, most people if you ask them what they look for in a relationship, more than half would say looks first. There sooooo many aspects you have to look at before you get into a relationship, looks are a plus, but there are many more important aspects you have to look at first before you get into a relationship.

[Cold Kitten]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

Ohhh, I apologize. Actually, yes, I do think the world is too revolved with looks.... as a matter of fact, humans themselves are too revolved around looks. For example, most people if you ask them what they look for in a relationship, more than half would say looks first. There sooooo many aspects you have to look at before you get into a relationship, looks are a plus, but there are many more important aspects you have to look at first before you get into a relationship.

Exactly. Thank you. You have made a post pertaining to the actual thread. Congrats.

[dballin4]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

None of you are seeing the point I am trying to make, or the question I'm asking.

Oh... I'm sorry but the 90% of your post dealing with looks in advertising and lack of a clear cut question led me to believe you wanted opinions on looks in advertising. My bad.

don't post something that we already knew

Then why did you post this thread? Look at how the beauty industry flourishes and then ask anyone if they think people are obsessed with how they look. There are always ads for a new cream to make you look younger or makeup for young people to look glamorous. The common definition of "attractive" is set by society and since that definition is what it is, you can offer up the opinion that society is currently (the definition of beauty is different depending on where in the world you are and has changed over time) obsessed with skinny people and that is how you should strive to look if you want to be beautiful. Does everyone think this way? No, but you asked if the world revolved around looks. While I don't think it REVOLVES around looks, it's pretty damn conclusive that you wouldn't be doing harm to yourself by fitting into the societal version of beauty.

Mobius’s study, published in The American Economic Review last month, builds on data that shows that workers labeled physically attractive earn about 10 to 15 percent more than their plainer peers.

For example, most people if you ask them what they look for in a relationship, more than half would say looks first.

Time to be a devo: Where are you pulling these numbers from? Sure, people in high school who might just be looking to get off probably want to do so with someone they find attractive, but as you get older certain things become more important than beauty. Things such as money management, will they be a good parent, do they have a job, are they at least a little bit intelligent, do we even get along, etc? Looks don't matter nearly as much when you're considering living with someone and having kids together.

I'm damn sexy.

Right on brother!

[devonin]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

The actual point I was trying to make was that I thought that the world revolved too much around looks. If you disagree with that, then say so. But don't post something that we already knew. And as for the question I was asking, do you agree with that?

You've said "Everyone is too concerned with their looks, here is a basic marketing issue that we're all aware of that shows we're too concerned with our looks, now...do you think we're too concerned with our looks?"

As a question, the response is "yes" with no real room for any further debate. I understand your potential frustration that the discussion deviated slightly from people saying "Yes, you're right" into a very related side issue, but that's also something that happens in this forum, discussions develop and evolve.

If all you wanted was a yes/no response to "Do you think we're too concerned with looks" you could have made a poll.

[Mech Dragon]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

you could have made a poll.

And you could have asked people to post why they said yes/no etc.

[Ground_Breaker]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

Have any of you ever noticed that it seems like a lot of our world tends to revolve around looks and/or how much they weigh?

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Yes, they make the soda sell better, but why is that?

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Everything revolves too much around looks. People would rather buy something that has been advertised by a better looking person then, say, an average looking person.

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It's the same thing with clothing and what-not. You've seen ads in magazines for clothing and accessories. What do the people who are modeling the clothing normally look like? Once again, good-looking, usually pretty slim people. I would like to hear all of your opinions on this.

I don't see much potential for discussion here.

You think too much emphasis is placed on aesthetics. Okay. You understand how much of the media appeals to people's sense of wanting to be beautiful. Okay.

You're asking us what we think, so you're going to get responses from people saying, "Well, I think you're right, too much emphasis is placed on aesthetics," or you're going to get responses that say something like, "The media's effect on you is directly related to your individual level of tolerance for that kind of advertising." In essence, the latter response means, "Get over it, because you're negatively affected by it." Neither of these responses are fertile ground for much discussion, really.

Your topic can best be summed up as:

Do you think skinny girls in advertising are good? Y/N

[DJ_Swabber]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

What Kommi said.
Honestly, I only have a problem with people who choose to let themselves be overweight/unhealthy, and complain about it.
Quit it.
DDR, people. =]
I am for one of those few people who see beauty on the inside, and also the outside, where others would of overlooked peoples unique features. Rather than pointing out how society is, why don't you focus on complimenting true beauty's then?

[kommisar[os]]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

of course personality has a huge effect on how people see each other, but in any relationship there has to be a physical sexual attraction. your girlfriend's gotta look hot to you if you want it to work for a long time.

men, animals like we are, are quite influenced by physical appearance and media is a factor also. in the middle ages being fat meant you were rich and could afford to make yourself so. different ideologies brings different points of attraction.

[funmonkey54]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

I was so excited when I was overweight instead of obese this last year.
But yeah, just me.
My girlfriend is really skinny though. Like comfortably skinny, not like ribs skinny. That is gross. Although, if she had the same personality, I wouldn't care either way. =/

[Bangcrashboom]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

Its also the fact that people think "Oh if i buy this product, it will make me look just as good as him or her" (referring more towards clothing). So the sellers naturally use more attractive people to advertise to grasp peoples attentions and to want to be as good looking as the advertiser

[Mech Dragon]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

in any relationship there has to be a physical sexual attraction. your girlfriend's gotta look hot to you if you want it to work for a long time.

I disagree to this, because I really don't care about looks when I try to find a girlfriend, I just care about the personality, wisdom, independence etc. Looks are a luxury, they're not necessary and therefore are not so important, to some men it is, but in the end, it's not so important.

[Blue Bird]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

Of course looks matter. They're what cause the first impression. During your everyday life, the main factor determining what gets your attention or not, is how a person looks. Because until you know how they really are inside, looks are all you'll know. And until that point, it will be the only thing that matters.

I won't use the word "fat" here, because really... fat is pretty relative, and even "chubby" girls are able to pull off sexual attraction from guys. But picture yourself walking around somewhere filled with people. Who are the ones that usually catch your attention? It doesn't define who you are. It's not a flaw of yours that you're attracted to a certain type(s) of people, and not others.

As for girls going around saying they're too fat or whatever, you can sort of blame society. It's how they're raised to think. I know for a fact, the way someone looks has a major impact on their personality a lot of the time. Because the world revolves around looks in so many areas, people are always pushed to look acceptable. Except they can't get that acceptance from themselves, so they must seek it from others.

Of course, there will be some who won't care, or who are confident in how they look, and not ask for more. However, we are constantly being pushed at with "perfect" models in advertisement. And some people feel as though they have to look that good. It's nonsense, mainly because especially these days, what you see on television or pictures, is not how they look like in real life AT ALL! So people strive for looks that are nearly impossible to achieve in real life.

The fact remains though - looks matter. Maybe not in the long run, but until you get to know someone's personality, until something else besides a person's appearance is put into the equation, it's all they'll have to attract attention.

[kommisar[os]]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

I disagree to this, because I really don't care about looks when I try to find a girlfriend, I just care about the personality, wisdom, independence etc. Looks are a luxury, they're not necessary and therefore are not so important, to some men it is, but in the end, it's not so important.

give it a few years you might change your mind. most people are too young to understand the effects of long-term relationships including myself.

[jellygod]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

yes we care too much about looks. society does as well, its just the way it works. As was said earlier in this thread, being fat is a choice as is good looking to an extent. It's your choice to eat all that crap and put it in your body without caring about yourself then blame other people for not liking you because of it. I think that everyone can be decent looking to an extent. If you are too fat then lose some weight and get a haircut or try changing your clothes or something. If you are too skinny then lift weights and workout. It really isn't too hard for everyone to look decent. sorry if this makes me sound like somewhat of a prick. oh and btw

omgawd why i so ugleh?

[dsliscoo]

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?

much like beauty this topic is shallow. lawl.
Like everyone said.
There isn't anything to debate or really talk about.
Being good looking isn't bad. Trying to be good looking isn't bad either. There is nothing wrong with trying your best in everything you do and why would it matter with looks/weight/anything else besides murder. And as for placing emphasis on perfection, I think it is only healthy. It is unhealthy thinking if you satisfied with something you are discontent with.

and another thing to think about, 90% of why people communicate is all about being responded to.. it rarely has to do with the information they are sharing.