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  • who_cares973
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2006
    • 15407

    #61
    Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

    concrete examples? how is "notes that go to nothing" not concrete?

    it isnt with just one file its with all the files ive seen

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    • TC_Halogen
      Rhythm game specialist.
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Feb 2008
      • 19376

      #62
      Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

      Hey, Kommi, this anime pack, is it a pad pack?

      Oh--and I seen your "I'm gonna step this because it's been stepped 1000000000000000x times and I'm gonna try to beat it" chart (also known as Xepher).

      In all honesty, there's absolutely no variation in your pattern usage, and that frankly has nothing to do with you deliberately choosing not to step certain areas of songs the right away. Even if you use your chart as an accompaniment, it's still no good if the patterns are just repeating staircases (pointing right at Xepher, again).

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      • lnick
        FFR Player
        • Nov 2008
        • 50

        #63
        Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

        I was just reminded of what we are dealing with here. I forgot that QED makes it mandatory to step notes to nothing and that's actually his "style" of stepping (as pathetic as that sounds), so sadly, I don't think anybody can convince him that what he is doing is wrong, so he's just doomed to failure forever until he changes his ways.

        Also, the sad fact is that the people who are defending him now (people who JUST registered on the forum to post in this thread to defend him) have not even experienced a real, decently structured, and solid keyboard simfile. I am 99% sure when I look at how they defend him. What makes me so frustrated is that these people are probably new to the game, and if they "grow up" playing these ****files, when they eventually move on to simfiles that actually have technicality and basic structure, it'll just be that much harder to adapt, just because they are used to playing simfiles that have notes that go to absolutely nothing, and have no real solid structure.

        To new players; I DO realize that when you are new, you only have limited ability when playing simfiles, and aren't looking for the hardest ones available, but please. If you're going to play easy simfiles, at least progress by playing simfiles that are actually simfiles, -not- these.

        ps pat a shoe
        Originally posted by Patashu
        hey

        hey

        your objectivity is constraining his transcendental artistic vision

        would you give 2/10 to kil???

        you can't confine art thanks
        In terms of art, cow vomit is closer than these simfiles. Way closer.
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        • kommisar[os]
          Banned
          • Apr 2006
          • 4097

          #64
          Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

          adding invisible 16ths that have nothing to do with the song doesn't make it a good simfile. regardless of who enjoys your file it's a very very small minority unless you conform to the dark chancellors way of stepping according to the stepmania supreme court declared by the national kil act of stepmania.


          and I wouldn't give kil a 2/10 unless i personally hated one of his files. he's basically the one who invented 90% of stepmania theories.

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          • Soulbringer
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2009
            • 4

            #65
            Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

            Originally posted by lnick
            ...the sad fact is that the people who are defending him now (people who JUST registered on the forum to post in this thread to defend him) have not even experienced a real, decently structured, and solid keyboard simfile. I am 99% sure when I look at how they defend him. What makes me so frustrated is that these people are probably new to the game...
            I somehow feel offended by this (yes, being one of the new to the forum), then again you fail to actually read what people write...

            Originally posted by lnick
            a real, decently structured, and solid keyboard simfile
            Not sure, but do you claim that OD files are perfect in everyway (or that there is some that are extremely good - as in close to perfect)?
            The way that some comments here suggest (atleast that the feeling you get from reading), is that the "only" way to step anime songs is the OD way.

            One thing is playing a stepfile that is "difficult" -and completely trashing after completing it, because all there really is to it, is the difficulty-
            Another is playing a stepfile and actually wanting to play it again (aka HAVING FUN playing).
            Im not saying that stepfiles that are "difficult" can't be fun, just saying if that is all there is too them they properbly wont be played alot after completion...

            Note: lnick
            atleast you toned your trash talk down abit...
            *reads the last part again* in the beginning...
            人生は思い出の物語です…
            Life is a tale of memories...

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            • lnick
              FFR Player
              • Nov 2008
              • 50

              #66
              Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

              Are you stupid? Where did I say that or even hint OD simfiles being perfect? Show me.

              When I talk about real KB simfiles with structure I mean simfiles like ODIpack, VGMP3, RFpack2 and the like. I HIGHLY doubt any of the people defending QED have played any of those files, or they are probably in the situation I stated in that they are playing or have played those simfiles but they cannot enjoy them because they are used to playing to a totally warped, wrong style of stepping.

              Also, do -not- give me this difficulty bull****. I myself play LOADS of dumpfiles ALL the time, however, anybody who isn't a complete idiot can tell the difference between a file being a dump or not.
              It's completely possible to find dumpfiles fun, that's because one tends to seek more challenge because most files that are not dumps are not always hard, but having fun with a file that is so much of a dump that it steps to absolutely nothing, in a totally awkward way, and not in a challenging way at all is pointless. There's absolutely no reason why you should like something like that, if you have any composure in this game at all.

              QED's simfiles do not even qualify as dumpfiles, they are below dumps. The fact that his files are literally midare files, but without any interesting patterns or difficulty to compensate for the bull**** in them is just disgusting and pointless.
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              • ablefoxdog
                FFR Player
                • Mar 2009
                • 6

                #67
                Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

                What soulbringer said is true. Difficulty doesn't make a good stepfile. We don't say we can't play difficult stepfiles from time to time. But after having at least double A on them, you just don't actually want to play them again.

                On the other hand, QED's stepfiles make you enjoy the music while limiting the steps for what it's necessary, making you play his files over and over again without loosing the fun of it.

                And yes, OD's stepfiles aren't perfect. But we appreciate their great work too.
                Please give the guy some slack and let him write his stepfiles like he wants to, and just do your work your own way to make a better 6th mix.

                And Xepher FTW!!

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                • gnr61
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 7251

                  #68
                  Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

                  wow dude lmfao
                  you are getting hilariously upset because one guy likes to step files differently than you. you talk as if technical proficiency is the bible of stepping and cite a pack like rf2 (which has -tons- of technically "inaccurate" files). frankly i suspect you don't know a whole lot about files at all -.-

                  i mean placing 16th notes to sounds that aren't necessarily present if they seem to fit within the context of the steps is not a huge ****in deal lol, thousands of people enjoy ITG charts and they do the exact same thing. obviously people (like us) who play a lot of very technical files (vgmp3/smg2) will learn to get used to that style and enjoy it more, while people who play stuff like OD and ITG charts will learn to like that style more. i mean c'mon we all enjoyed playing huge technical dumps like the KBMP back in the day, does that mean we had ****ty simfile taste worthy of registering and throwing a temper tantrum in another forum?

                  in short, whoa whoa whoa man calm down he only ask in a decently way
                  squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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                  • kommisar[os]
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 4097

                    #69
                    Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

                    there isn't a specific way to step anime simfiles. It's not because OD makes decent files that it's the ~only~ way to step them. A simfile is a simfile and there are guidelines to follow, regardless of if its anime or not. peace.


                    A good simfile that people will actually play and post scores on requires more than tossing in invisible 16th streams. No files don't need to be perfectly accurate; kil has his own theories which probably defy all laws of layering. It's the originality of a file that makes it enjoyable and gives a refreshing experience to the player. Granted quite a few people enjoy dumps but if it has replay value and its good for scoring hay why not. it's stepmania after all. However good files still need a foundation which need basic stepping rules.
                    Last edited by kommisar[os]; 03-30-2009, 05:34 AM.

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                    • who_cares973
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 15407

                      #70
                      Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

                      Originally posted by ablefoxdog
                      But after having at least double A on them, you just don't actually want to play them again.

                      lol no, there are tons of files that i've AA'd and still play regularly that are technical that are really fun

                      i would probably download QED's files and play a couple files then never play them again because the charts wouldnt make any sense to me which kills any replay value a file has automatically

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                      • Patashu
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 8609

                        #71
                        Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

                        Originally posted by lnick
                        ps pat a shoe


                        In terms of art, cow vomit is closer than these simfiles. Way closer.
                        idk if you can write an essay about how you step manias it's certainly not mindless nor unplanned
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                        • lnick
                          FFR Player
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 50

                          #72
                          Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

                          Originally posted by gnr61
                          wow dude lmfao
                          you are getting hilariously upset because one guy likes to step files differently than you. you talk as if technical proficiency is the bible of stepping and cite a pack like rf2 (which has -tons- of technically "inaccurate" files). frankly i suspect you don't know a whole lot about files at all -.-

                          i mean placing 16th notes to sounds that aren't necessarily present if they seem to fit within the context of the steps is not a huge ****in deal lol, thousands of people enjoy ITG charts and they do the exact same thing. obviously people (like us) who play a lot of very technical files (vgmp3/smg2) will learn to get used to that style and enjoy it more, while people who play stuff like OD and ITG charts will learn to like that style more. i mean c'mon we all enjoyed playing huge technical dumps like the KBMP back in the day, does that mean we had ****ty simfile taste worthy of registering and throwing a temper tantrum in another forum?

                          in short, whoa whoa whoa man calm down he only ask in a decently way
                          when i cited those other packs, i wasn't referring to them as some aMAzInG StEpFilES, more so the fact that those simfiles at least have -some- sort of structure, and can be in most cases, considered solid as to what a good simfile might look like

                          also its because this guy pretty much pissed all over od when he was there so im not on good terms with him period but w/e

                          when he was at OD releasing his simfiles, everyone there p much agreed that they were just bad, and it pretty much elevated into this huge arguement that ended with him losing/leaving

                          this isn't the first time i've seen him
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                          • lnick
                            FFR Player
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 50

                            #73
                            Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

                            Originally posted by ablefoxdog
                            Please give the guy some slack and let him write his stepfiles like he wants to, and just do your work your own way to make a better 6th mix.
                            thanks i just read your post and i think i will do that and stop posting in this thread as well

                            so this will most likely be my last post in this thread so yeah

                            no use trying to help a lost cause

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                            • gnr61
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 7251

                              #74
                              Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

                              king of the sea

                              there are no rules for making good simfiles and simfiles cannot be objectively bad because they don't meet a specific qualification. he likes to make his files that way and apparently someone likes to play them so i don't see the sense in trying to get him to convert to a more conventional style or to put down his files since you are clearly not his target audience.

                              the only time you can qualify a simfile to the degree you are doing (by saying they are objectively "cow vomit" because they don't meet your definition of what constitutes a fun file) is if you are running a pack and HAVE to set standards and rules for what kind of files specifically you want in. otherwise leave him to his own methods seriously
                              i mean if you're gonna start a witch-hunt for everyone who bs's notes youre gonna have a lotta stepbodies on ya hands
                              squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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                              • lnick
                                FFR Player
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 50

                                #75
                                Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64

                                Originally posted by gnr61
                                king of the sea

                                there are no rules for making good simfiles and simfiles cannot be objectively bad because they don't meet a specific qualification. he likes to make his files that way and apparently someone likes to play them so i don't see the sense in trying to get him to convert to a more conventional style or to put down his files since you are clearly not his target audience.

                                the only time you can qualify a simfile to the degree you are doing (by saying they are objectively "cow vomit" because they don't meet your definition of what constitutes a fun file) is if you are running a pack and HAVE to set standards and rules for what kind of files specifically you want in. otherwise leave him to his own methods seriously
                                i mean if you're gonna start a witch-hunt for everyone who bs's notes youre gonna have a lotta stepbodies on ya hands

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