Another awesome fantasy MMO is launched

[SaguchiTheCat]

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No offense, but don't talk about things you know nothing about, let alone compare these things to a sexual fetish.

Millions of species of animals died on Earth before humans even existed. Is that humanity's fault too?

You hear these things from environmental idiots. They sound awesome in theory, like animal liberation and a strict bearing-down of the Endangered Species Act rules. You have no idea what impact environmental concepts would have on the world. If you want to save the world, the best place to start would be to ignore everything environmentalists say, because their goals are just pipe dreams. They don't think of the consequences of their actions.

What happens if you decide to protect all endangered species? You close off the expansion of commerce. Any land that someone currently owns or plans to own that has any endangered animal on it becomes closed off. I'd say that leaves us with about 5% of the land in our country to use.

What happens if we protect the trees? Then we have to buy all of our wood from other countries, destroying hundreds of thousands of jobs in America. And just so you know, trees are a renewable resource. When they cut trees down, they plant more. Is that such a hard concept to understand?

But you're only thinking America, probably. Guess what happens if you limit the logging industry worldwide? You kill millions of people. Guess what happens if you try to place a tax on oil so people stop using so much? You kill millions of people. Guess what happens if you try to save every animal on Earth? You kill millions of people. You can't use America as a measure of what the rest of the world "needs" to do.

I personally couldn't care less what you decide to believe in for your personal life, but research your public opinions before you set yourself to them, please. And don't trust a goddamn word PETA says, in case you did before.

So that's it? Animals lives have no value? Humans are more important than everything else on this planet? The people who are actually TRYING to save this planet are doing it harm by TRYING to save the planet? You are an ultimate humafag. Calling you an ultimate humafag is an understatement. You are a complete loonatic huma****! So what you are obviously saying is that "Animals mean nothing to this planet. Their deaths are well deserved. We should be the only ones on this planet." No! You should be shot with a bazooka for thinking this. HUMANS AREN'T THE ONLY IMPORTANCE ON THIS PLANET!!!

funny, the only ones i ever see having bitch fits and having giant e-cries are furries, not people who find them ridiculous.

You've been hanging around the wrong furries, then. Most furries are nice people. ALL humafags are huge jerks.

I'm only going to say this once; is it that important for games to star furries? Does Killzone/Fallout/Left For Dead/every other good game out there have to star furries just so you can be happy? Is that seriously what you think? Because, if you say yes, then I'll have nothing else to say. Cause, at that point, I won't care about both your thoughts AND your waste of existence.

PS: Wouldn't be surprised if you WERE from the PETA. OMG OWNING A PET IS BAD!!! OMG WEARING FUR IS CRUEL TO ANIMELS!!! OMG EATING MEAT IS CANNIBELISM!!!!! The PETA can shove it. -.-

Not furries, just stuff besides humans. Aliens or something would be good enough. But only if it fits. Human games can continue to star humans if it fits. In some human games, humans are really the only thing that fit. Humans are fine when they're the ONLY THING THAT MAKE SENSE FOR THE PLOT, but if other things would fit, then I would rather have other things.

PS: I'm not as bad as PETA. Environmentalists are good people who care about this planet, unlike you, Squeek. The only insane environmentalist group is PETA. I actually do not believe it is wrong to keep pets. I do not believe it is wrong to eat meat either. Fur coats are fine too, as long as they use shaved hair instead of skined. ...if that's even possible. Geeze, I'm not THAT insane. No one should be as insane as PETA.

[IAAW]

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I (at the least) don't hate animals. And yes, environmentalists are much much better than the PETA; the PETA is just ****ing crazy. But, back on topic; I can see you're trying to make a point, here. However, you're thinking completely off the right track; none of us hate animals. Lots of us own pets, care for them, etc; and, also, you do have to think about America in general, not just the care for animals. You have to consider how America would exist with a new law, and passing a new law can be very tedious, especially since there's alot to consider. And, Squeek is still right on alot of things; logging industries nowadays maintain forests for wood. As in, after they chop down trees, they plant some more, rinse, and repeat. And, also, you can't protect EVERY endangered species out there; you can only have so much money, and invest so much into protecting endangered species. And, once again, protecting endangered species usually means cutting off land. And, once again, I think just preserving the rainforests and such is doing good enough.

We may not be environmentalists, but we don't consider animals a non-existent species. However, you can't always prevent hunters from hunting, poachers from poaching, and etc.; there ARE bad people out there, you know. No offense, but I think you're being ignorant of what we're trying to say, and interpreting it as something completely off of what we're trying to converse as our input. Truthfully, I don't see what the huge argument is about; didn't this all start off just because most of us disliked Earth Eternal? In my honest opinion, I think that's a stupid reason to get all riled over; people are going to play what they want, and say what they want. Freedom of speech, dude. But, you're entitled to your opinion; however, you can't make everyone stick to what you think is right. It's just impossible.

PS: Renewable sources basically means it can be reused. Recycled. Made into something completely different. And that alone has already helped the environment out a little. Conserving water is also helping the environment; so, don't tell us that we hate animals, or don't care about the environment. But, once again, you're entitled to your opinion. All I can do is say what I feel in regards to what you say. That, in words, is using freedom of speech. So, that's all I got to say about that.

[Squeek]

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Simple question: Are animals more important than humans?

You talk of saving animals, and that makes you feel like you are doing something important. Why not try to save people? Thousands of people die every day from disease, famine, poverty, etc.

There are hundreds of billions of animals on this planet. You cannot save them all from starving mouths.

I'm not saying to nuke the goddamn planet. Stop blowing everything way out of proportion to try to justify your insanity. I'm saying people are more important than animals. We're the priority. But I'm glad you'd rather save a single cuddly wittle critter than to care about starving children in Africa. That means I can place you with the environmentalist idiots like PETA and ignore you.

[Solid Dreams]

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I think he just doesn't want to admit he's completely without reason in his tantrums.

P.S. humans are animals way to hate on us animals you jerk

[Squeek]

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how did a videogame thread because a debate (hardly) on enviromental issues. Seriously I play videogames so I don't go outside.

Saguchi, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c

by the way **** you squeek you're the ultimate humafag

I should've just linked Carlin before. He has the best way of explaining these concepts in the shortest amount of time necessary.

While watching it, I was reminded of this: When all you hear is that forests are getting chopped down all the time and two dozen animals go extinct every day, it sounds bad. Let me explain it with something I myself came to realize on my own.

In science class, I learned that millions of red blood cells die every day. Thinking on it, I wondered why I wasn't dead if red blood cells die every day. And my little 8-year-old self realized that millions more are coming back while the other ones are dying.

You get it yet? We're not drawing from a capped pool here. It's not like 1,000,000,000 species minus 25 each day = new number. No. The planet refills the pool all the time. Likewise, we re-plant trees after we cut them down, just like how a tree scatters seeds to attempt to grow more trees before it dies. So let's say there's a grove with 1000 trees and we cut down all 1000. Then we plant 1000 more. That results in no change whatsoever. The world has not changed in any way. But that isn't always the case. Let's say we cut down a forest with 1000 trees and planted 2000. That's a net gain for the planet.

And yeah, sorry, I care about humans too much. It's better than these self-righteous idiots who have no interest in their fellow man.

Just answer me this: If you saw a dying man and a dying monkey side by side and could only take one to the hospital knowing that the other would die by the time you did, which one would you take?

Spoiler alert: If you say the monkey, **** you.

[Tokzic]

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You've been hanging around the wrong furries, then. Most furries are nice people. ALL humafags are huge jerks.

Most of the people I know who have animals as their personal character are actually nice, good-hearted people, who actually handle themselves well in these situations. Infact, they actually deal with situations better than humafags, who usually blow up in these kinds of situations and make a spectical of themselves.

**** YOU HUMAFAG!!! GO TO HELL!!!

And answer this. WHERE THE **** IS THE FUN OF PLAYING GAME AFTER MOTHER ****ING GAME AFTER MOTHER GOD DAMN ****ING GAME STARING HUMANS. ANGER RAGE WRATH ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAR

WELL GO **** YOURSELVES, HUMAFAGS!!!

yeah those "humafags" sure do blow up and make a "spectical" of themselves

ps humans are more important than animals because animals are dumb and humans can rationalize

[SaguchiTheCat]

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I (at the least) don't hate animals. And yes, environmentalists are much much better than the PETA; the PETA is just ****ing crazy. But, back on topic; I can see you're trying to make a point, here. However, you're thinking completely off the right track; none of us hate animals. Lots of us own pets, care for them, etc; and, also, you do have to think about America in general, not just the care for animals. You have to consider how America would exist with a new law, and passing a new law can be very tedious, especially since there's alot to consider. And, Squeek is still right on alot of things; logging industries nowadays maintain forests for wood. As in, after they chop down trees, they plant some more, rinse, and repeat. And, also, you can't protect EVERY endangered species out there; you can only have so much money, and invest so much into protecting endangered species. And, once again, protecting endangered species usually means cutting off land. And, once again, I think just preserving the rainforests and such is doing good enough.

We may not be environmentalists, but we don't consider animals a non-existent species. However, you can't always prevent hunters from hunting, poachers from poaching, and etc.; there ARE bad people out there, you know. No offense, but I think you're being ignorant of what we're trying to say, and interpreting it as something completely off of what we're trying to converse as our input. Truthfully, I don't see what the huge argument is about; didn't this all start off just because most of us disliked Earth Eternal? In my honest opinion, I think that's a stupid reason to get all riled over; people are going to play what they want, and say what they want. Freedom of speech, dude. But, you're entitled to your opinion; however, you can't make everyone stick to what you think is right. It's just impossible.

PS: Renewable sources basically means it can be reused. Recycled. Made into something completely different. And that alone has already helped the environment out a little. Conserving water is also helping the environment; so, don't tell us that we hate animals, or don't care about the environment. But, once again, you're entitled to your opinion. All I can do is say what I feel in regards to what you say. That, in words, is using freedom of speech. So, that's all I got to say about that.

You do have a point. And for that, I like you. Sorry for blowing up like that.

Simple question: Are animals more important than humans?

You talk of saving animals, and that makes you feel like you are doing something important. Why not try to save people? Thousands of people die every day from disease, famine, poverty, etc.

There are hundreds of billions of animals on this planet. You cannot save them all from starving mouths.

I'm not saying to nuke the goddamn planet. Stop blowing everything way out of proportion to try to justify your insanity. I'm saying people are more important than animals. We're the priority. But I'm glad you'd rather save a single cuddly wittle critter than to care about starving children in Africa. That means I can place you with the environmentalist idiots like PETA and ignore you.

You, however, are still a humafag. I personally think animals are equally important. Just because there is starving humans all over the world doesn't mean we should COMPLETELY not care about other things. Actually, ... ... no, forget it. You would never understand.

yeah those "humafags" sure do blow up and make a "spectical" of themselves

ps humans are more important than animals because animals are dumb and humans can rationalize

You are also a humafag. Listen. I am not like other furries. I'm one of a kind. Other furries would handle this situation better than me. And animals shouldn't be out of the picture just because they are "dumb." Infact, some animals are smarter than the dumbest non retarded human. Animals have emotions too. You think humans are the only ones who have fealings? That's just plain fail.

[igotrhythm]

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EPIC TOPIC DERAILMENT, especially because a moderator is joining in on it. :/

We were talking about a game where you could basically play furries in a 3D MMORPG at the start, I believe. Then we somehow get dragged kicking and screaming into a raging debate about animal rights vs. human rights and other stuff along those lines? How the **** did we let this happen?

Getting back to the original topic, I generally make it a point to not play games where I need to download something in order to play it, unless the whole idea behind the stuff I download is to facilitate communication (mIRC, AIM, Firefox, etc.), but NEVER a program that allowed me to play an MMO. I can barely handle real-time strategy, but combat while trying to type to communicate with other people is just pure hell.

[fido123]

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It's a conversation...as long as most participants stay civil it shouldn't be locked.

You, however, are still a humafag. I personally think animals are equally important. Just because there is starving humans all over the world doesn't mean we should COMPLETELY not care about other things. Actually, ... ... no, forget it. You would never understand.

1) Why do their interests/lack of a specific fetish make them any more wrong or right?
2) I agree that we should care about animals, but human life takes priority due to our ability to rationalize.
3) Forget one? Please explain because it just looks like you won't admit you're wrong

You are also a humafag. Listen. I am not like other furries. I'm one of a kind. Other furries would handle this situation better than me. And animals shouldn't be out of the picture just because they are "dumb." Infact, some animals are smarter than the dumbest non retarded human. Animals have emotions too. You think humans are the only ones who have fealings? That's just plain fail.

Please explain HOW YOU ARE NOT LIKE OTHER FURRIES. If you tell me you're a cat in a humans body or some other otherkin garbage I'm going to ask you not to even post a reply to this and kill yourself. What is a fealing?


Sad thing is I know this is probably not a troll because I know tons of people who are like this...

[vantilburg]

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Ahh so much siggy'able content where do I begin?

EDIT: This'll do for now. I might come back to this thread whenever my siggy looks a little bare.

[SaguchiTheCat]

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Please explain HOW YOU ARE NOT LIKE OTHER FURRIES. If you tell me you're a cat in a humans body or some other otherkin garbage I'm going to ask you not to even post a reply to this and kill yourself. What is a fealing?


Sad thing is I know this is probably not a troll because I know tons of people who are like this...

OF COARSE I'M HUMAN!!! A cat's just my personal character, it's not who I am. Personal characters aren't nesesarily who you are. Also, all the furries I know also don't believe they really are animals.

And trust me, that one thing I said forget it about would only make things worse.

Edit: The reason I am not like other furries is because I am an asshole. Most furries are nice people.

[fido123]

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OF COARSE I'M HUMAN!!! A cat's just my personal character, it's not who I am. Personal characters aren't nesesarily who you are. Also, all the furries I know also don't believe they really are animals.

And trust me, that one thing I said forget it about would only make things worse.

Edit: The reason I am not like other furries is because I am an asshole. Most furries are nice people.

I know not every furry is an otherkin...and I know about the whole fursona thing, I know a **** load of furries. Trust me I know this stuff...and don't go all drama **** on me...if you're going to bring something else say it or just PM me...I promise I won't post it if you don't want me to I'm not as much of an asshole as I appear to be.

[Destatsi]

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Guise Buddha was a jerk cause he wasn't a furry.

[qqwref]

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But it IS something to be ashamed of. That's just it. Humans and their devil-may-care attitude have done so many ireversable things to this planet, like endanger certain animals, kill off certain animals, create lots and lots of smog and air pollution, chop down forests to almost nothing, and most people aren't doing anything about it. They just sit there, and wait for the world to end.

I personally kill animals (usually endangered ones), create huge amounts of smog, and chop down forests every day. **** the Earth, I ENJOY it. When the world ends I will stand in the street and laugh.

Note: Humafags = Anti-Furries
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ALL humafags are huge jerks.

You really think everyone who has a problem with furries is "a huge jerk"? That would mean every nice person on the planet does not have a problem with furry culture. Clearly false. I'd bet that if you went back in time and asked Gandhi or Mother Teresa or Jesus if they are OK with people dressing up in suits covered in fur and having sex with each other, they'd say no.


PS. My actual belief: in general, a single human has more potential than a single non-human animal. Humans can create some pretty cool stuff... please let me know if you see an animal write a short story or essay, construct a machine, or prove a mathematical theorem. I don't hate animals but I definitely think their lives are less valuable than human lives. Honestly, all most species can do is hunt/kill/eat and reproduce.

[MalReynolds]

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I honestly thought on page 1 that Sags was just kidding. Like, seriously, just messing around. And everyone was falling for it, taking the troll bait.

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And then I read the other 2 pages.

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I'm actually floored. And yeah, I guess you could consider me a humafag because I'm pretty intolerant to the idea of people being animals or animals living inside people or people putting themselves in animals or dressing up like an animal and running around like an animal and barking like an animal and eating like an animal and playing chess like an animal and I AM NOT AN ANIMAL! I AM NOT AN ANIMAL! and smelling me like an animal and buying groceries for me like an animal and pumping gas for me like an animal and delivering the Publisher's Clearing House Check to me like an animal.

No but really I'm pretty intolerant because I think it's weird and pretty deviant.

Also, how does dog fighting work for furries? Do you guys just suit up and box?