A couple names their child....

[Nyokou]

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Hitler was pretty ****ing powerful to convince an entire country that the rest of the world was wrong and evil and end up killing millions of innocent people.

[fido123]

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Xiao is right. I'm talking from a collective standpoint of pretty much everybody. I really hate it when political correctness gets this far. What he did was wrong and if you're going to tell me that it's a matter of opinion you're bull****ting me. I hate this modern idea that there are not firsts or lasts or nobody is right because it's their opinion. No, Hitler was a ****ing terrible man. Yes he's allowed to have the beliefs he had but then to go commit Genocide is another story. I'm not being arrogant here, it's not politically correct but political correctness goes a little to far in our society today. Same thing goes if somebody murders somebody. Yes it's MY opinion that what he did is wrong, but killing people is wrong and if somebody says other wise they're flat out wrong.

[Quigly]

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Hitler was pretty ****ing powerful to convince an entire country that the rest of the world was wrong and evil and end up killing millions of innocent people.

Or all the people in the country were dumb****s. Come on, he wrote a ****ing book about what he was going to do if he came into power. Everything about the Holocaust was in there and he still became chancellor.

[DN_Catastrophic]

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I find it perfectly realistic. If I named my child Jackie Robinson, because I admired him for HIS abilities, it would be no different than naming him Adolf Hitler based on HIS abilities.

So you're saying that you would name your child without considering how he/she will be treated in the future just because you like that name, or admire that person? That's pretty selfish.

[funmonkey54]

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Hitler was pretty ****ing powerful to convince an entire country that the rest of the world was wrong and evil and end up killing millions of innocent people.

He was. You and I are normal people and I bet neither of us could do that.

I'm quite sure a good portion of any English speaking nation, the UN, and any other human rights activists, would like to argue their point to you. If you want to know who he is to say what Hitler did was wrong, wear a Nazi armband around and decorate your shirt with a Swastika for a day. Tell me how that goes.

He's not speaking from an individual standpoint, as opposed to a collective agreement on morality as human beings.

Then why not name them after a better leader, who didn't commit genocide?

Already did. I was interested in how it would go. I drew a swastika on a picture of Obama and kept it with me all day. And I will be honest, at first people who were "Obama Fans", if you will, were very mad. But after I stated all the facts on Hitler's leadership abilities and explained that it was a remark towards his showing of possible leadership tendencies and abilities, they all calmed down. Not ONE of them thought of it in the same way.

Also, while I am perfectly aware of him and many others finding an issue with the name, they have no right to treat the child itself any differently then another child. This has been my point the whole time.

As for naming him after another leader, that is the parent's decision. Obviously, Hitler was the one they chose, and we can't change that. Maybe the parents believe the genocide was necessary, perhaps a way of controlling world over-population? And who is to say the child will not believe that? The truth is, we don't know.

Yeah, Hitler wasn't that bad.

I mean, look at it from a different perspective.
He was persuasive,
he was just overall seemed like a good person.
Actually, he was a good leader, in my opinion.
We need more leaders like Hitler.
I love Hitler.
Hitler is ****ing amazing.

If you are going to say we need more leaders like Hitler, you need to explain which aspects of Hitler need to be present more often. If you are talking of his intellect and strategic overview abilities, or even his abilities of persuasion, I agree. If you are talking about his less appealing genocidal mentality aspect, I personally do not agree, but I will not treat you differently should you believe this would make the world better.

Xiao is right. I'm talking from a collective standpoint of pretty much everybody. I really hate it when political correctness gets this far. What he did was wrong and if you're going to tell me that it's a matter of opinion you're bull****ting me. I hate this modern idea that there are not firsts or lasts or nobody is right because it's their opinion. No, Hitler was a ****ing terrible man. Yes he's allowed to have the beliefs he had but then to go commit Genocide is another story. I'm not being arrogant here, it's not politically correct but political correctness goes a little to far in our society today. Same thing goes if somebody murders somebody. Yes it's MY opinion that what he did is wrong, but killing people is wrong and if somebody says other wise they're flat out wrong.

But, while you believe political correctness goes too far, the fact is that it is out there and it is as far as it has gotten. You live in this same world I do and I can confidently say, you will not be able to change the way political correctness has been used.

So you're saying that you would name your child without considering how he/she will be treated in the future just because you like that name, or admire that person? That's pretty selfish.

I would educate my child to the point where he could immediately start teaching anyone who questioned his name. He would be able to point out his leadership aspects. I fail to see how educating my child on a figure in history is selfish.

So next time, before you post calling someone selfish, think harder about what your actual reasoning is.

[LilyPichu]

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While I can't fully agree with the name choice, I have to disagree with the refusal to decorate a simple cake for a 3-year-old. I mean, c'mon. A 3-year-old. ?_?

Also, yeah, you may be able to educate your child enough to defend his name choice, but that still wouldn't stop the antagonism he might receive. It's nice to have kept the good qualities in mind, but surely the parents would've been aware that the chance of ridicule will always be existent. I don't think the naming itself is selfish; I think their decision to override that chance is.

[funmonkey54]

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While I can't fully agree with the name choice, I have to disagree with the refusal to decorate a simple cake for a 3-year-old. I mean, c'mon. A 3-year-old. ?_?

I had the same reaction.

[retching oesophagus]

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ITT funmonkey becomes a nazi sympathizer :0

dunno why you admire him so much actually. he was a pretty rubbish leader actually. powerful speaker but tactically inept and eventually lost germany the war. he was pretty much helped into power because of the rampant anti-semitism existing beforehand and because the dumb impoverished german ****s would have been desperate enough to believe someone could turn them into a master race. you seem to be swayed by propaganda too much. perhaps if he rounded up 6 million christians and gassed them you wouldn't have the same blase attitude.

go watch a holocaust documentary now!

as for the cake the people have a right to refuse to make it if it offends their belief system, whether the child was called adolf hitler or teabaggingtitty****ingcocksuckingmother****ingchrist

[rzr]

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Yeah, Hitler wasn't that bad.

I mean, look at it from a different perspective.
He was persuasive,
he was just overall seemed like a good person.
Actually, he was a good leader, in my opinion.
We need more leaders like Hitler.
I love Hitler.
Hitler is ****ing amazing.

You don't really think anybody laughs when they read the **** you spew from your keyboard, do you? And the ****ty rebuttal you're preparing along the lines of "I didn't mean it to be funny" is going to suck as much of this post. Don't ****ing bother.

[Minion133]

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gay

[championanwar]

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ITT funmonkey becomes a nazi sympathizer :0

dunno why you admire him so much actually. he was a pretty rubbish leader actually. powerful speaker but tactically inept and eventually lost germany the war. he was pretty much helped into power because of the rampant anti-semitism existing beforehand and because the dumb impoverished germans ****s would have been desperate enough to believe someome could turn them into a master race. you seem to be swayed by propaganda too much. perhaps if he rounded up 6 million christians and gassed them you wouldn't have the same blase attitude.

go watch a holocaust documentary now!

as for the cake the people have a right to refuse to make it if it offends their belief system, whether the child was called adolf hitler or teabaggingtitty****ingcocksuckingmother****ingdong

Pretty much what I was thinking.
Edit: What would posess you to name your kid that? Just imagine what would happen a few years down the line.

[DoctorSerpentine]

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rzr insulted me that's not good

[rzr]

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It's not an insult, it's advice.

[Choofers]

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You have to realize that the kid is going to insist that people call him Al, not Adolf. My last name is really weird, and when my teachers (especially substitue teachers) mess it up, I have to tell them not to say it. Time will only tell if he embraces or shuns his name...

[retching oesophagus]

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Pretty much what I was thinking.
Edit: What would posess you to name your kid that? Just imagine what would happen a few years down the line.

"hitler -he's only got one ball"

ad infinitum everywhere he goes.